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    Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 5:57pm
I dont know if i can name names here, but if you look in the weanlings and look at the results, there are some weanlings that went for big money that had no right to bring that... are they exchanging money through the sales?

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Extremely fishy QA.  

All those offered by Matthew Vella as agent sold for significant overs.  Here're my assessments fwiw:

Lot 254: Sold price $45k, assessed value @ $25k 
Lot 256: Sold price $80k, assessed value @ $20k
Lot 259: Sold price $50k, assessed value @ $20k
Lot 267: Sold price $75k, assessed value @ $5k
Lot 271: Sold price $40k, assessed value @ $5-10k.
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And a couple of those valuations might be somewhat generous.
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Yup, my thoughts exactly.
Especially when you look at the ones Yulong had up that went so cheap, some people got some good pinhooks there!

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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Extremely fishy QA.  

All those offered by Matthew Vella as agent sold for significant overs.  Here're my assessments fwiw:

Lot 254: Sold price $45k, assessed value @ $25k 
Lot 256: Sold price $80k, assessed value @ $20k
Lot 259: Sold price $50k, assessed value @ $20k
Lot 267: Sold price $75k, assessed value @ $5k
Lot 271: Sold price $40k, assessed value @ $5-10k.

Matty is a very good man with a horse. I’m not sure who the principals are of the Equine Growth Fund
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Hmm … hmmm … nothing gets past you lot. Very interesting … that name doesn’t surprise.
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Which one BP? I don't know either name.
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I know of an M Vella and I would not consider them reputable. But it’s common name, right? Wink
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that name doesn’t surprise. 

LOL and LOL.  Trust you to hit on it, Ponies. Big smile
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It is Quiz and SC who have the sharp eyes, aa Wink
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Who is Equine Growth Fund? who purchased (if you can call it that) ALL the M Vella weanlings.

A number of them are going through the Inglis Australian Weanling Sale next month at Riverside. They are all going through from Cavallo Park Stud, North Richmond. So I'm thinking this is basically a 'put' a price to them so they can marketed them as XYZ value... ps... nobody with any clue will fall for it. 
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Vella sells a lot to HK, not sure if that impacts
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If they go back through, al it will show is a massive loss. Though maybe thats the point? Is there anything tax/book wise for that sort of thing that is beneficial?
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Originally posted by Plastic letters Plastic letters wrote:

Vella sells a lot to HK, not sure if that impacts

Last year only 5 of 304 were sold to Honkers so no apparent relevance to this scenario Plastics.

All these lots which've been entered for the Inglis Weanling sale are being offered by Cavallo Park Stud, though that entity presumably "sold" the lots in this particular Inglis Digital Sale.

Cavallo Park is currently being wound up following application by the Deputy Commissioner of Taxation, has had an Administrator appointed, and a meeting of creditors was held last month. 

If we knew all the dots we could most likely join them.
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If the tax man is winding you up, the last thing you’d do is to “bid up” your draft….
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Exactly Rusty.  And that's why we don't know all the dots as a means of joining them.

Maybe Equine Equity Growth who're the alleged purchasers could enlighten us.

In any event it all appears to becoming rather more malodorous.
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I did a quick search on the EGF and couldn’t find much
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Geez, you lot are scary smart LOL

I can’t help the investigation but yes, there is/was a Cavallo Park Stud around here. It popped up suddenly and recently, i think, then popped off …
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Up near Kurmond from memory 
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Recently became Pty Ltd according to ASIC.

Easier to shield directors?
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As long as they aren’t (or weren’t) “trading while insolvent”, directors are untouchable.
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Nah, I think the recent date you’re looking at,is when administrators were appointed , or winding up application was made..

IRT directors obligations, they are safe unless it’s a big number, and they are known to have assets….

It’s not commercial to chase unrecoverable debts.
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Rusty, I have personal experience that an administrator can chase you through the courts, even if you have no assets and the likelihood is they’ll spend more in court than they can ever recover.

Didn’t end well for them thankfully.
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Kurmond, yes, that’s it - thanks PL! Would’ve driven me nuts trying to remember LOL
I know the property they were leasing.

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LOL.   Off you go,,,
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Originally posted by Freefall Freefall wrote:

Rusty, I have personal experience that an administrator can chase you through the courts, even if you have no assets and the likelihood is they’ll spend more in court than they can ever recover.

Didn’t end well for them thankfully.
Really?
That's very unusual.
I've seen plenty of open and shut cases, and the administrators interest has always been solely dependent on whether they'll get paid for their efforts.

Maybe in the case you mention, there was a narky creditor funding them externally of the company assets.
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LOL.   Off you go,,,


Or I could just stay home and poke needles in my eyes LOL
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Used to drive to Kurmond quite a bit when the office was up there.  Once I even ended up off the castlereagh road in the gravel as I was so tired I feel asleep.  The bosses wife filled me with coffee before the trip home.  Or they might of moved to Richmond by then.
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from 0 to 2 years old we lived at Kurrajong. 
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I've lived (too briefly) at both Kurrajong and Kurmond – glorious part of the world Hug views of the Sydney Basin you could look at all day Embarrassed
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