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    Posted: 03 Oct 2010 at 4:33pm
'Hay List will be one of the best sprinters we've ever seen won't he? .... well, he's already there isn't he?'

LOL 

Look who he's beating. The only group one winners in the field: Weekend Hussler, Swick, Sniper's Bullet and Rostova are along way off there best. And apart from that he's beating group 2/3 horses.


John McNair was asked if he's got Black Caviar covered.... he replied 'yeh' and smirked. I didn't like that one bit. 

We'll see on Patinack day ay, she was beating better horses in a more impressive fashion IMO, and as a 3yo as well. She'll eye ball him, and she'll beat him.


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Its hard to knock him, he is really a bombproof horse. He can relax on the pace or off it, then accelerate more than once. Will take something special to beat him
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I'm not knocking him. He's a very good horse, a G1 horse. He may be special, but he has to beat another very, very good horse to be named that. If he can beat Black Caviar, and  a %100 fit All Silent at Flemington then i'll label him that tag and the best in Oz.
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He will deal with BC without too many dramas, but I am looking forward to the spectacle none the less.
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We shall see, the only way BC will get close if they strap her on his back
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The problem is, is if he beats Black Caviar an a "100% All Silent", there will still be someone who says he hasn't beaten another good, fit horse.  Greatness seems to be in the eye of the beholder.


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Hay List will beat whoever runs up against him...... easily.
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There's going to be a big ambush on punters come Patinack Stakes day. Was lucky to be on the best part of the track along with a nice cart by Catapult.

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I tend to agree, I don't think Haylist is beating much. People saying he's the best since Manikato is an insult to our great sprinters. didn't Schillachi win 10 group 1s? He has still only won 1.

I started the black caviar vs haylist thread and as long as she's come back fit i'll be in her corner in the patinack. Love to see hot danish run down the straight again too, but it won't happen.
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Originally posted by The Layer The Layer wrote:

There's going to be a big ambush on punters come Patinack Stakes day. Was lucky to be on the best part of the track along with a nice cart by Catapult.

 
Originally posted by The Layer The Layer wrote:

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Hay List - inexperience from his obscure trainer will make this the lay of the year today in the Gilgai. Quick back up down the straight with penalty weight will see many punters burnt. This race will be like a 1600m with the speed.

 
 
LOL LOL I will say no more
 
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Originally posted by Hay List Hay List wrote:

Originally posted by The Layer The Layer wrote:

There's going to be a big ambush on punters come Patinack Stakes day. Was lucky to be on the best part of the track along with a nice cart by Catapult.



 

Originally posted by The Layer The Layer wrote:

. Hay List - inexperience from his obscure trainer will make this the lay of the year today in the Gilgai. Quick back up down the straight with penalty weight will see many punters burnt. This race will be like a 1600m with the speed.


 

 

LOL LOL I will say no more

 


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Originally posted by princerubiton princerubiton wrote:

I tend to agree, I don't think Haylist is beating much. People saying he's the best since Manikato is an insult to our great sprinters. didn't Schillachi win 10 group 1s? He has still only won 1.

I started the black caviar vs haylist thread and as long as she's come back fit i'll be in her corner in the patinack. Love to see hot danish run down the straight again too, but it won't happen.
 
 
 
Umm Hay List has only contested one Group 1
 
Plenty of time to chalk a few more up
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The rider didn't need to go as nothing had a crack at him and when he did go he didn't need to whip it at all.

Very easy win against a 2nd rate field.

Had the Hussler and Catapulted not been backed he would've been sent out about $1.10 which was his true odds.
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Originally posted by Nathan Nathan wrote:

'Hay List will be one of the best sprinters we've ever seen won't he? .... well, he's already there isn't he?'
LOL 
Look who he's beating. The only group one winners in the field: Weekend Hussler, Swick, Sniper's Bullet and Rostova are along way off there best. And apart from that he's beating group 2/3 horses.
John McNair was asked if he's got Black Caviar covered.... he replied 'yeh' and smirked. I didn't like that one bit. 
We'll see on Patinack day ay, she was beating better horses in a more impressive fashion IMO, and as a 3yo as well. She'll eye ball him, and she'll beat him.


They should drug test both Hay List and McNair. Crazy quotes from the man.
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Originally posted by The Layer The Layer wrote:

Originally posted by Hay List Hay List wrote:

Originally posted by The Layer The Layer wrote:

There's going to be a big ambush on punters come Patinack Stakes day. Was lucky to be on the best part of the track along with a nice cart by Catapult.



 

Originally posted by The Layer The Layer wrote:

. Hay List - inexperience from his obscure trainer will make this the lay of the year today in the Gilgai. Quick back up down the straight with penalty weight will see many punters burnt. This race will be like a 1600m with the speed.


 

 

LOL LOL I will say no more
 
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He might not be beating star studded fields but the jockey barely touched him today. The win could not have been any more impressive.
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Sprinters that lead get better down the straight.

Tot, Gold Edition are a couple I remember. Just point them in the right direction, too easy.
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Catapulted is a straight track specialist and went super today.
Hay List was having his first go and blitzed them hard held in 1:08.2 on a dead track.
All Silent at his very best wouldn't have mowed him down
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Originally posted by The Muffin Man The Muffin Man wrote:

He might not be beating star studded fields but the jockey barely touched him today. The win could not have been any more impressive.

Well, it could of been, he could of ran faster LOL

But you're right, it was a fantastic win. I want to see him beat our very best sprinters before people label him one of our great sprinters, a world beater and the best since Manikato etc blah blah
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No point in knocking him too much.

If he stays fit he will blow everything away. There isn't a sprinter in the country that can touch him wtihout stars like Takeover Target, Miss Andretti and Apache Cat in the way.
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Look who he's beating


should read 'look wh he's thrashing' Really nfi! Stop cutting down the tall poppies. let's see how royal orchid goes before we come out being a hater and not a congratulater. why is it we always knock a trainer who voices confidence in his/her charges?
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My support is with Mick and Hay List.
 
There isn't a horse in the country that would beat him at the moment...Wink
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i think he a going to be great sprinter, he is super fit and beating whats put in front of him.
 
can the analyst check the sectionals in comparison to the previous G1 winners on the last few years.
 
any way i think he will win the Patinak and then come back even stronger in the autumn, but to call him great lets see hwat he can do to the Overseas horses.
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Originally posted by BamBam BamBam wrote:

Originally posted by Nathan Nathan wrote:

Look who he's beating


should read 'look wh he's thrashing' Really nfi! Stop cutting down the tall poppies. let's see how royal orchid goes before we come out being a hater and not a congratulater. why is it we always knock a trainer who voices confidence in his/her charges?

Confused That time of the month? 

Like i said in previous posts, i think he is a very good horse, a G1 horse. But i want to see him beat our very best, which he hasn't, before i label him the best in Australia... People are saying he is the best since Manikato .... he needs another 8 or 9 G1's to his name before that is set in stone.


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Originally posted by Shakamaker Shakamaker wrote:

Catapulted is a straight track specialist and went super today.
Hay List was having his first go and blitzed them hard held in 1:08.2 on a dead track.
All Silent at his very best wouldn't have mowed him down
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he is the best in australia at sprinting and you sound like your having a bit each way. you canly beat what is put in front of you and you are slinging of at mcnair for being bullish about the horses chances. why attack the trainer for that. would you like him to have said no, no hope. that's right he had a smirk that poor you took offence to. give me a break.
i suppose you are upset about the jockey saying the worst part about riding hay list is the ride itself is not long enough as he is so awesome to be on. you wouldn't like that one bit.
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He's really only won 11 from 13 , 1xGrp1, 1xGrp2, 2xGrp3.

He's only beaten Weekend Hussler, hmppfff. Who?
Reward For Effort, Catapulted, Pinwheel, Rostova, Youthful Jack, in his only 4 runs for McNair.

Black Caviar? Will she ever race again? If she does she''ll need to be better than very, very good to beat Hay List. I don't see that happening.


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