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Shawy38
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Joined: 13 Jun 2015 Status: Offline Points: 19168 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 7:35pm |
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Wow. Just caught up on today's posts.
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jujuno
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Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Coasting Status: Offline Points: 47065 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 7:49pm |
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Yet again, high profile men go after a woman who, after surviving appalling trauma, goes on to become Australian of the Year, works tirelessly to educate the community about said crime, but has the temerity not to conform to the men’s expectation of how such a woman should behave.
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stayer
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Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Status: Offline Points: 28339 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 7:59pm |
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Did she really educate anyone about anything? Did she change anything? Apparently not.
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TJMitchell
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Joined: 29 Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 17268 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:06pm |
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Tame became Australian of the Year after her advocacy was instrumental in overturning a Tasmanian law preventing survivors from speaking publicly about their assault.
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stayer
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Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Status: Offline Points: 28339 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:25pm |
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Ah ok, didn't know that. I thought she just "raised awareness." That's fair enough then.
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Tlazolteotl
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Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Online Points: 38926 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:27pm |
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Opposition to marital rape law reform came from a wide range of interest groups and individuals, covering a broad cross section of Australian society, including social conservatives, some religious groups, parliamentarians, and conservative women’s groups.
http://www.auswhn.org.au/blog/marital-rape/ Mmm, sounds familiar.
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jujuno
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Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Coasting Status: Offline Points: 47065 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:31pm |
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Dylan Alcott takes the reins.
Very deserved AOTY recipient. |
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jujuno
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Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Coasting Status: Offline Points: 47065 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:35pm |
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I can't believe you even asked that. It's not as if it was kept secret. She changed a very ridiculous law and gave voice to victims who were previously silenced. |
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stayer
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Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Status: Offline Points: 28339 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:49pm |
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Yeah agree it was a ridiculous law. Never heard of it til I googled her just now. Didn't pay her any attention because I thought she was just part of the #metoo stuff to be honest.
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Rhino
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Joined: 21 Nov 2013 Status: Offline Points: 2128 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 9:02pm |
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And there by the grace......
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Hello Sunshine
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Joined: 21 Feb 2021 Status: Offline Points: 5783 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 10:28pm |
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jujuno i am tired of YOU questioning my integrity, my intelligence
it seems, because i have a different opinion to yours. Where did i say I didnt support Grace's cause. However, today she would have lost some because of her attitude towards the PM. and on such a public platform. Will be interesting to see how she goes from here because she seems to have lost some dignity.
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Hello Sunshine
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Joined: 21 Feb 2021 Status: Offline Points: 5783 |
Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 11:08pm |
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Fabulous to see Marcia Hines performing.
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oneonesit
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Joined: 06 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 50286 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:25am |
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Sorry - however i found her demeanor appalling. How that performance is going to make her more influential in meeting her goals is beyond me.
Surely part & parcel of having the honor of Australian of the Year is to at least show some respect to the PM of the day. Extremely poor form - & maybe she should have shown that disdain 12 mths ago & not now when her celebratory year was at an end.
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Second Chance
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Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Online Points: 56826 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:18pm |
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young women aren’t smiling for you any more The immediate backlash from conservative men in power in response to Grace Tame’s photos with the Prime Minister has exposed how they are the gatekeepers of Parliament’s sexist culture. Grace Tame’s unforgiving expression next to the Prime Minister became iconic the moment the image was shared. It also
drew swift criticism that
can be put straight in the sexist folder. Queensland Liberal Senator James
McGrath wrote a Facebook post that criticised Tame as “childish” – an
infantilising, belittling word for a courageous Australian of the Year. Journalist
Peter van Onselen offered in his opinion piece for The Australian the tone-deaf, yet telling advice,
“If your disdain for [Scott Morrison] is so great ... then just don’t go.” It’s the same argument from a worn-out misogynists’ playbook. If women’s “disdain” for the political boys club is so great, why should they run for politics? If women “disdain” the system that entrenches our disadvantage, why should we sit at the table and challenge it? Their criticisms carry a thinly veiled message: women who refuse to obey do not belong in spaces where decisions are made. This
argument has benefited men in power for generations upon generations. Women are
expected to nod, smile, be silent and complicit. Women are expected to shoulder
the burden of masking our emotions for the comfort of the other. No one should be expected to smile at a Prime Minister – a servant of the people – who has fallen at every hurdle when it comes to supporting women’s rights. Especially Tame, a survivor of sexual abuse. It’s not just a few cockroaches in the backyard. It’s a blatant indicator that the whole house is rotten. The critics who have come out publicly swinging against Tame reveal a deeper and more sinister culture of misogyny within Parliament House. If
these individuals have the audacity to publicly smear a woman for refusing to
smile, imagine what it is like for a woman intending to speak her mind in the
party room? |
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rusty nails
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Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 14505 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:21pm |
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Surprisingly, I disagree.
PM thought he’d be clever, and get a good photo op from someone he knows has no respect for him. He ensured that GT was herded thru, with no other option but to provide him with some cheap PR. He ensured she could not politely defer. He got what he deserved.
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Second Chance
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Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Online Points: 56826 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:24pm |
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Which is an intro to the obvious: you Stayer come across as distinctly symptomatic of the problem presented by sexist, misogynistic culture in Australian men.
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rusty nails
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Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 14505 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:26pm |
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I just saw this. I’m embarrassed for you. How can you possibly comment on this stuff, without even a rudimentary understanding of the issues and the players. She, and her history have have comprehensive coverage.
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Hello Sunshine
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Joined: 21 Feb 2021 Status: Offline Points: 5783 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:46pm |
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OPINIONScowling at Scott Morrison, Grace Tame squanders her momentIt is not rude to protest. But there is a reason, as excruciatingly correct behaviour expert Miss Manners once quipped, why it is called “civil” disobedience. There was nothing civil about Grace Tame’s last performance as Australian of the Year; it looked more like childish disobedience. Much as I am fond of quoting feminist historian Laurel Thatcher Ulrich’s observation that well-behaved women seldom make history, there is nothing inherently history-making in being merely ill-behaved.The photographs of Tame’s exit interview at the Prime Minister’s residence are awkward. Tame stands angled away from the Prime Minister and his wife Jenny, scowling. They beam warmly, like the parents of a surly teenager doing their best to capture a nice moment with their recalcitrant child. Twitter went wild with approval for Tame’s act of defiance. Someone with an anonymous profile summed up the mood by tweeting in solidarity that “we are all Grace Tame right now”. But that’s Twitter and, as Joe Biden’s campaign strategist told the media after winning the US election, the secret to his success was very simple: “We turned Twitter off.”Tame came to the role of Australian of the Year with an important mission to teach Australia to recognise predatory grooming and give a voice to the survivors of child sexual abuse. Her harrowing personal experience gives her the authority to speak powerfully on the subject. She was not obliged to accept the role of Australian of the Year – nobody would have blamed her had she chosen to use the voice Nina Funnell’s Let Her Speak campaign gave her to represent no-one but herself. But having taken the job, she had a responsibility to act for all the harmed children. Instead she has squandered her time on political sniping.What was it she hoped to achieve? Personal antipathy is hardly a revolution.When the images of her last official engagement are beamed into the lounge rooms of many people, they will see a polite couple trying to make the best of welcoming a rude young woman into their home. The Prime Minister has taken a personal popularity hit lately. But the sympathy generated by these images may be just what he needs to revive his fortunes. Grace Tame’s tenure as Australian of the Year began with a roar and ended with a whine. A little more cold civility would have elevated her disobedience. |
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Second Chance
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Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Online Points: 56826 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:55pm |
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Just in case people missed this on the prior page:
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young women aren’t smiling for you any more The immediate backlash from conservative men in power in response to Grace Tame’s photos with the Prime Minister has exposed how they are the gatekeepers of Parliament’s sexist culture. Grace Tame’s unforgiving expression next to the Prime Minister became iconic the moment the image was shared. It also
drew swift criticism that
can be put straight in the sexist folder. Queensland Liberal Senator James
McGrath wrote a Facebook post that criticised Tame as “childish” – an
infantilising, belittling word for a courageous Australian of the Year. Journalist
Peter van Onselen offered in his opinion piece for The Australian the tone-deaf, yet telling advice,
“If your disdain for [Scott Morrison] is so great ... then just don’t go.” It’s the same argument from a worn-out misogynists’ playbook. If women’s “disdain” for the political boys club is so great, why should they run for politics? If women “disdain” the system that entrenches our disadvantage, why should we sit at the table and challenge it? Their criticisms carry a thinly veiled message: women who refuse to obey do not belong in spaces where decisions are made. This
argument has benefited men in power for generations upon generations. Women are
expected to nod, smile, be silent and complicit. Women are expected to shoulder
the burden of masking our emotions for the comfort of the other. No one should be expected to smile at a Prime Minister – a servant of the people – who has fallen at every hurdle when it comes to supporting women’s rights. Especially Tame, a survivor of sexual abuse. It’s not just a few cockroaches in the backyard. It’s a blatant indicator that the whole house is rotten. The critics who have come out publicly swinging against Tame reveal a deeper and more sinister culture of misogyny within Parliament House. If
these individuals have the audacity to publicly smear a woman for refusing to
smile, imagine what it is like for a woman intending to speak her mind in the
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Hello Sunshine
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Joined: 21 Feb 2021 Status: Offline Points: 5783 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:57pm |
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Your paranoia is showing sc.
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rusty nails
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Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 14505 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:57pm |
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Hahahaha
From Parnell Mcguiness. So we all know where her starting point is. Hardly a neutral observer…..
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oneonesit
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Joined: 06 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 50286 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:03pm |
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Absolute tosh. Grace wanted her last moment in the sun on her way out to oblivion.
Bye Grace
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horlicks
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Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Status: Offline Points: 9270 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:03pm |
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There are 2 images which have been widely circulated that demonstrate that Grace is not alone. One of Morison refusing to shake hands with Shorten at Bob Hawke's funeral, the other of a stern faced Kenneth Hayne refusing to shake Frydenberg's hand when presenting the report of the banking Royal Commission. Did not wee any criticism of those events.
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Hello Sunshine
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Joined: 21 Feb 2021 Status: Offline Points: 5783 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:03pm |
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What is neutral?
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oneonesit
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Joined: 06 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 50286 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:05pm |
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& her performance yesterday just made her poison if she held any political aspirations.
Polarised half the population. Not too bright !
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Hello Sunshine
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Joined: 21 Feb 2021 Status: Offline Points: 5783 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:10pm |
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Thats it then.
Just no respect and get used to it people. Dont whinge when someone doesnt wear a mask, or does wear a mask. No vaccinate, vaccinate. Wonder if Grace is vaccinated? |
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stayer
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Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Status: Offline Points: 28339 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:13pm |
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I, and my history, didn't give a toss. |
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stayer
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Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Status: Offline Points: 28339 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:15pm |
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Try that in plain English. I'm what? I doubt it. |
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rusty nails
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Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 14505 |
Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:15pm |
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Ignorant people are rarely bothered by their lack of understanding…
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oneonesit
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Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:16pm |
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I understand Macca is on the bench
Have I missed his suspension period ? Not in the normal Suspendee's thread |
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