Grace Tame
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Topic: Grace Tame
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Subject: Grace Tame
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2021 at 8:25pm
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Australian of The Year, Grace Tame, might be venturing into territory that she will have to retract in a few more days. Today Tame criticised Scott Morrison for elevating Amanda Stoker as the new assistant minister for women, declaring that the Queensland senator had supported a “fake rape crisis tour” that inflicted great suffering on survivors. Tame said Morrison had exhibited either very poor judgment, or cultural calculation, when he elevated the LNP conservative who had conducted public advocacy “aimed at falsifying all counts of sexual abuse on campuses across the nation”. Once Ms Tame listens again to what Stoker actually said in parliament she may have reason to reconsider her off-the -cuff assertions.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 12:15pm
| https://twitter.com/TamePunk/followers" rel="nofollow - |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 4:07pm
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Both Grace & Brittany will get regular guest appearances on The Project. ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 4:16pm
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Up to 18k now |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 1:16pm
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I like Grace, I admire her a lot, But I am not sure she did herself and her cause any favours today. I assume it was today. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 1:53pm
| Reminded me of the look Kerry Chant gives the back of Perrottet's head in his press conferences. |
Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 1:58pm
Good on her  ------------- Time is a flat circle |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 2:01pm
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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 2:47pm
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BRAVO. GRACE TAME. WE ALL WANT TO DO IT...  ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 2:50pm
| Last day as AOTY and her presence there was necessary not desired. |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 2:56pm
Different story with the next PM |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 2:58pm
He was actually impressive at the National Press Club, today. Perhaps he might make the top job. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 4:29pm
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Grace Tame not 'smiling for the cameras' was enough for p*ss pants PVO to write an article ------------- Time is a flat circle |
Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 5:38pm
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If I had been here earlier maccamax's initial post would have been hidden. The reaction to it is perfectly understandable. but that is enough or the thread will be locked.
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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 5:38pm
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I am considering exposing him to the media if he doesn't go. That should get me a total expulsion as the Mayor doesn't like threats. But why should we have to put up with his revolting posts? this was once a sane forum. Not sure what I would call it, now. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: marble
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 5:50pm
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the post needs to stay there so everyone who reads it understands his disgusting point of view. |
Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 5:54pm
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that was my opinion too marble. As well I have had a look at forum rules which clearly prohibit sexism and bigotry so macca will be having a holiday.
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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 5:56pm
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thank you. now, if you want to suspend me, I'll happily go. Someone had to stand up to him. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:00pm
About time! Better late than never! His comment was disgusting but sadly a regular occurrence when he is allowed to roam free. I wonder how long it will take for him to ring the mayor begging to be allowed back on.
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horlicks wrote:Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:02pm
Ummm... what about all the bits in the rules surrounding the sexism and bigotry words??
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:06pm
| A barely collateral and certainly unhelpful post one would have thought Stayer. |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:11pm
| I've got no problem with macca being suspended for that post, but how many abusive posts about him are allowed? Just enforce the frigging rules and everyone will be more civil. Simples. Otherwise don't have rules. |
Posted By: Hello Sunshine
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:25pm
Speak for yourself madam, dont include me. As for Grace certainly not up to name. Childish.
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Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:36pm
What was the root cause of the abuse directed at him?
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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:39pm
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You mean 10 times a day for years, EE? Anway, whatever. Rules are rules. (And some rules are more ruley than others. Ask the Immigration Minister.) |
Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:42pm
| I’m not entirely surprised that you couldn’t/wouldn’t answer the question. The guy posts (regularly) the most foul material you could ever imagine. It’s not at all surprising that female members would react to a post blaming a woman for her own rape, with abuse. Doesn’t make the abuse right but it is certai my a mitigating circumstance. |
Posted By: Hello Sunshine
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:43pm
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I thought name calling is a forum sin. referring to someone as old is NOT funny. Amongst all the other ist's. As in ageist.
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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:51pm
He virtually supported two rapists this last year. Grace Tame shouldn't even have had to shake his hand. Can we take politics out of this. I think you'll find any person with a grain of integrity would support her actions. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:53pm
I was happy to be suspended. He has taunted me for ten years...making some vile comments about my family. I think a few come-backs were justified. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: slowdown
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:54pm
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Macca, your attitude to the subject is an embarrassment to the all males . shame..... ------------- The Spirit of Zero resuming. Raymond(Midnight) Resuming next week. Lulu (Rising) spelling. Alli - Spelling. Jeffrey spelling. Ambi Boo spelling. Sh'bourne Angel spelling. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 7:35pm
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Wow. Just caught up on today's posts. ------------- Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 7:49pm
Yet again, high profile men go after a woman who, after surviving appalling trauma, goes on to become Australian of the Year, works tirelessly to educate the community about said crime, but has the temerity not to conform to the men’s expectation of how such a woman should behave. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 7:59pm
| Did she really educate anyone about anything? Did she change anything? Apparently not. |
Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:06pm
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Tame became Australian of the Year after her advocacy was instrumental in overturning a Tasmanian law preventing survivors from speaking publicly about their assault.
https://www.thegracetamefoundation.org.au/" rel="nofollow - https://www.thegracetamefoundation.org.au/ ------------- Time is a flat circle |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:25pm
| Ah ok, didn't know that. I thought she just "raised awareness." That's fair enough then. |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:27pm
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Opposition to marital rape law reform came from a wide range of interest groups and individuals, covering a broad cross section of Australian society, including social conservatives, some religious groups, parliamentarians, and conservative women’s groups.
http://www.auswhn.org.au/blog/marital-rape/ Mmm, sounds familiar.  ------------- Manners are of more importance than laws Edmund Burke |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:31pm
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Dylan Alcott takes the reins. Very deserved AOTY recipient. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:35pm
I can't believe you even asked that. It's not as if it was kept secret. She changed a very ridiculous law and gave voice to victims who were previously silenced. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:49pm
| Yeah agree it was a ridiculous law. Never heard of it til I googled her just now. Didn't pay her any attention because I thought she was just part of the #metoo stuff to be honest. |
Posted By: Rhino
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 9:02pm
| And there by the grace...... |
Posted By: Hello Sunshine
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 10:28pm
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jujuno i am tired of YOU questioning my integrity, my intelligence it seems, because i have a different opinion to yours. Where did i say I didnt support Grace's cause. However, today she would have lost some because of her attitude towards the PM. and on such a public platform. Will be interesting to see how she goes from here because she seems to have lost some dignity.
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Posted By: Hello Sunshine
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 11:08pm
| Fabulous to see Marcia Hines performing. |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:25am
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Sorry - however i found her demeanor appalling. How that performance is going to make her more influential in meeting her goals is beyond me. Surely part & parcel of having the honor of Australian of the Year is to at least show some respect to the PM of the day. Extremely poor form - & maybe she should have shown that disdain 12 mths ago & not now when her celebratory year was at an end. ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:18pm
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Why
young women aren’t smiling for you any more https://www.theage.com.au/by/yasmin-poole-p5362b" rel="nofollow - The immediate backlash from conservative men in power in response to Grace Tame’s photos with the Prime Minister has exposed how they are the gatekeepers of Parliament’s sexist culture. Grace Tame’s unforgiving expression next to the Prime Minister became iconic the moment the image was shared. It also
drew https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-senator-criticises-grace-tame-for-her-frosty-reception-with-pm-20220125-p59r2j.html" rel="nofollow - Journalist
Peter van Onselen offered in his opinion piece for The Australian the tone-deaf, yet telling advice,
“If your disdain for [Scott Morrison] is so great ... then just don’t go.” It’s the same argument from a worn-out misogynists’ playbook. If women’s “disdain” for the political boys club is so great, why should they run for politics? If women “disdain” the system that entrenches our disadvantage, why should we sit at the table and challenge it? Their criticisms carry a thinly veiled message: women who refuse to obey do not belong in spaces where decisions are made. This
argument has benefited men in power for generations upon generations. Women are
expected to nod, smile, be silent and complicit. Women are expected to shoulder
the burden of masking our emotions for the comfort of the other. No one should be expected to smile at a Prime Minister – a servant of the people – who has fallen at every hurdle when it comes to supporting women’s rights. Especially Tame, a survivor of sexual abuse. It’s not just a few cockroaches in the backyard. It’s a blatant indicator that the whole house is rotten. The critics who have come out publicly swinging against Tame reveal a deeper and more sinister culture of misogyny within Parliament House. If
these individuals have the audacity to publicly smear a woman for refusing to
smile, imagine what it is like for a woman intending to speak her mind in the
party room? |
Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:21pm
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Surprisingly, I disagree. PM thought he’d be clever, and get a good photo op from someone he knows has no respect for him. He ensured that GT was herded thru, with no other option but to provide him with some cheap PR. He ensured she could not politely defer. He got what he deserved.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:24pm
| Which is an intro to the obvious: you Stayer come across as distinctly symptomatic of the problem presented by sexist, misogynistic culture in Australian men. |
Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:26pm
I just saw this. I’m embarrassed for you. How can you possibly comment on this stuff, without even a rudimentary understanding of the issues and the players. She, and her history have have comprehensive coverage.
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Posted By: Hello Sunshine
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:46pm
OPINIONScowling at Scott Morrison, Grace Tame squanders her momentIt is not rude to protest. But there is a reason, as excruciatingly correct behaviour expert Miss Manners once quipped, why it is called “civil” disobedience. There was nothing civil about Grace Tame’s last performance as Australian of the Year; it looked more like childish disobedience. Much as I am fond of quoting feminist historian Laurel Thatcher Ulrich’s observation that well-behaved women seldom make history, there is nothing inherently history-making in being merely ill-behaved.The photographs of Tame’s exit interview at the Prime Minister’s residence are awkward. Tame stands angled away from the Prime Minister and his wife Jenny, scowling. They beam warmly, like the parents of a surly teenager doing their best to capture a nice moment with their recalcitrant child. Twitter went wild with approval for Tame’s act of defiance. Someone with an anonymous profile summed up the mood by tweeting in solidarity that “we are all Grace Tame right now”. But that’s Twitter and, as Joe Biden’s campaign strategist told the media after winning the US election, https://extra.ie/2020/11/08/news/world-news/joe-biden-won-twitter-donald-trump" rel="nofollow - the secret to his success was very simple : “We turned Twitter off.”Tame https://www.watoday.com.au/link/follow-20170101-p56wn8" rel="nofollow - came to the role of Australian of the Year with an important mission to teach Australia to recognise predatory grooming and give a voice to the survivors of child sexual abuse. Her harrowing personal experience gives her the authority to speak powerfully on the subject. She was not obliged to accept the role of Australian of the Year – nobody would have blamed her had she chosen to use the voice https://www.watoday.com.au/link/follow-20170101-p59c0k" rel="nofollow - Nina Funnell’s Let Her Speak campaign gave her to represent no-one but herself. But having taken the job, she had a responsibility to act for all the harmed children. Instead she has squandered her time on political sniping.What was it she hoped to achieve? Personal antipathy is hardly a revolution.When the images of her last official engagement are beamed into the lounge rooms of many people, they will see a polite couple trying to make the best of welcoming a rude young woman into their home. The https://www.watoday.com.au/link/follow-20170101-p59q77" rel="nofollow - Prime Minister has taken a personal popularity hit lately . But the sympathy generated by these images may be just what he needs to revive his fortunes. Grace Tame’s tenure as Australian of the Year began with a roar and ended with a whine. A little more cold civility would have elevated her disobedience. |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:55pm
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Just in case people missed this on the prior page: Why
young women aren’t smiling for you any more https://www.theage.com.au/by/yasmin-poole-p5362b" rel="nofollow - The immediate backlash from conservative men in power in response to Grace Tame’s photos with the Prime Minister has exposed how they are the gatekeepers of Parliament’s sexist culture. Grace Tame’s unforgiving expression next to the Prime Minister became iconic the moment the image was shared. It also
drew https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-senator-criticises-grace-tame-for-her-frosty-reception-with-pm-20220125-p59r2j.html" rel="nofollow - Journalist
Peter van Onselen offered in his opinion piece for The Australian the tone-deaf, yet telling advice,
“If your disdain for [Scott Morrison] is so great ... then just don’t go.” It’s the same argument from a worn-out misogynists’ playbook. If women’s “disdain” for the political boys club is so great, why should they run for politics? If women “disdain” the system that entrenches our disadvantage, why should we sit at the table and challenge it? Their criticisms carry a thinly veiled message: women who refuse to obey do not belong in spaces where decisions are made. This
argument has benefited men in power for generations upon generations. Women are
expected to nod, smile, be silent and complicit. Women are expected to shoulder
the burden of masking our emotions for the comfort of the other. No one should be expected to smile at a Prime Minister – a servant of the people – who has fallen at every hurdle when it comes to supporting women’s rights. Especially Tame, a survivor of sexual abuse. It’s not just a few cockroaches in the backyard. It’s a blatant indicator that the whole house is rotten. The critics who have come out publicly swinging against Tame reveal a deeper and more sinister culture of misogyny within Parliament House. If
these individuals have the audacity to publicly smear a woman for refusing to
smile, imagine what it is like for a woman intending to speak her mind in the
party room? |
Posted By: Hello Sunshine
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:57pm
| Your paranoia is showing sc. |
Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:57pm
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Hahahaha From Parnell Mcguiness. So we all know where her starting point is. Hardly a neutral observer…..
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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:03pm
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Absolute tosh. Grace wanted her last moment in the sun on her way out to oblivion. Bye Grace ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:03pm
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There are 2 images which have been widely circulated that demonstrate that Grace is not alone. One of Morison refusing to shake hands with Shorten at Bob Hawke's funeral, the other of a stern faced Kenneth Hayne refusing to shake Frydenberg's hand when presenting the report of the banking Royal Commission. Did not wee any criticism of those events.
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Posted By: Hello Sunshine
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:03pm
| What is neutral? |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:05pm
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& her performance yesterday just made her poison if she held any political aspirations. Polarised half the population. Not too bright ! ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: Hello Sunshine
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:10pm
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Thats it then. Just no respect and get used to it people. Dont whinge when someone doesnt wear a mask, or does wear a mask. No vaccinate, vaccinate. Wonder if Grace is vaccinated? |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:13pm
I, and my history, didn't give a toss. |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:15pm
Try that in plain English. I'm what? I doubt it. |
Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:15pm
| Ignorant people are rarely bothered by their lack of understanding… |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:16pm
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I understand Macca is on the bench Have I missed his suspension period ? Not in the normal Suspendee's thread ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:17pm
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Thus spake Rustythustra.
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Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:18pm
Really? That’s pretty basic. But, Ok, we’ll try and help you. Which bits were above your level of understanding? All of it,some of it?
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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:18pm
Yeah he's gone. Nothing from the mods about how long for. I might tune in again if I was given a date.
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Posted By: slowdown
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:19pm
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not sure that's what she wants Oneone. Good on her for being uncomfortable around Morrison. He has no fu cking idea . took his wife to point it out to him. ignorant fu ck. If he was serious about his so called Christianity he would understand what she has been through and address the issue. I have lost all faith in Morrison. pity there isn't much out there to take his place. ------------- The Spirit of Zero resuming. Raymond(Midnight) Resuming next week. Lulu (Rising) spelling. Alli - Spelling. Jeffrey spelling. Ambi Boo spelling. Sh'bourne Angel spelling. |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:20pm
You're fun Rusty. Let's keep going. I reckon all of it. |
Posted By: brave_ponies
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:29pm
slowdown When good men step up, the world is a better place for all. (I'm a bit behind, sorry. Missed all the drama!) |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:38pm
She will be the loser in all this. ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:47pm
| I hope you're joking about "distinguished honour", 1-1. The latest one didn't even write Tambourine Man, I've heard. |
Posted By: slowdown
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:51pm
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i understand why you feel that way Oneone and respect your thoughts. i am not sure she was being pretentious. to me she just didnt want to be there and around him. if she has dishonoured the AOY that is a shame but i think she just didnt want to pretend everything was all right around Scotty. cos its not. ------------- The Spirit of Zero resuming. Raymond(Midnight) Resuming next week. Lulu (Rising) spelling. Alli - Spelling. Jeffrey spelling. Ambi Boo spelling. Sh'bourne Angel spelling. |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:52pm
------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: Hello Sunshine
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:52pm
Dont choke on the wheaties but
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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:54pm
take a fortnight off, for a start. We won't miss your incisive comments...  ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:57pm
you're still not funny...  ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: slowdown
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 9:01pm
------------- The Spirit of Zero resuming. Raymond(Midnight) Resuming next week. Lulu (Rising) spelling. Alli - Spelling. Jeffrey spelling. Ambi Boo spelling. Sh'bourne Angel spelling. |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 9:04pm
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all the disciples of misogyny are on the loose... Why should any woman have to smile for the camera? (Or any male, either?) It is mot mandatory. You've all been arguing the 'mandatory' line. So why change tack on a smile. A faked smile would have been worse. (She gave Jen a brief grin) Who makes the must smile rules?  ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 9:04pm
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I was surprised she shook his hand. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: marble
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 9:06pm
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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 9:07pm
I'd never curtsy to the Queen. W e are all equal. Some are just lucky to be born in a castle. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 9:09pm
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Your entitled to your opinion JJ. So is Macca. You found his comments disgusting - that's your call. Fact is this - none of this stuff is 100% right - or 100% wrong. I mean you do realise if you took a global vote on issues such as same sex marriage , women's rights , gender equality , transgender ect you would find our general new aged view to be well & truly in the minority. Christ we have whole religions out there based on male domination. So its not as straight forward as some would like it to be - & no surprise that someone in his late 80's might see things a touch differently than you would like. ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: slowdown
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 9:11pm
------------- The Spirit of Zero resuming. Raymond(Midnight) Resuming next week. Lulu (Rising) spelling. Alli - Spelling. Jeffrey spelling. Ambi Boo spelling. Sh'bourne Angel spelling. |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 10:08pm
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Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 10:32pm
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Have we spoken about the uproar when Kenneth Hayne refused to sign the treasurers hand when delivering the royal commission into financial services? Or, at Hawkes funeral, when Scomo refused to shake hands with Shortern? Or let’s talk about the bushfires when on multiple occasions Scomo forcibly shook hands with victims, who wanted no part of it? Funny, no outrage here, about any of those times. Why? |
Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 10:36pm
So our standards have to set at the lowest common denominator? He was well out of line. Using the taliban as a benchmark is a very weak excuse. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 11:00pm
You can watch Grace and Brittany at the Australian Press Club on 8th February. They are far from washed up. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 11:54pm
It's attitudes like yours and his that set society back into the dark ages. Rape is never acceptable...under any circumstance. You and Stayer need to come to your senses and think about the fact you are supporting a statement which was repugnant to any decent human being. Macca was in the wrong...in a hugely repulsive way. Someone had to say something. Two others beat me to it, but I had the guts to take him on. Try putting on a dress, oneone, and subject yourself to the rubbish that women are put through...all because men think they can dictate what we should do. It's 2022, not Neanderthal times.  ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 12:13am
Is rape ever even remotely right? Is saying that a woman allowed herself to be raped for a possible honour, even 1% right? About time some people on this site re-wired their brains and looked hard at what they are saying. How would you react if Grace Tame was your daughter...or wife? She had every right to show her anger at the way Scomo has non-handled the year of female abuse. Using her platform is what the position is all about. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 8:45am
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Cannot agree - along with many, many others. In football terms can best be described as a cheap shot. Or in boxing terms a low blow. Bet we don't see Dylan use that approach to improve the lives of the Disabled. Chalk & cheese as a starting point maybe - not sure ! ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 8:54am
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Morrisons henchmen are probably not raping disabled people. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:08am
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That's how some will perceive it I suppose. The reality is it is never as straight forward as that. If you applied the Porter criteria from back in his Uni days half the male population would be getting locked up. I would be one of them most likely. Different times. And the Miss Higgins case will come to light in a court room - so lets wait & see how that goes down before throwing too many harpoons. Just a comment. Up until a few days ago i had told anyone who ever wanted to listen I couldn't vote for Scommo again. Sick of his crap. I now realise i have swung back in behind him over this issue. Have a feeling others may have done similar - may be wrong of course. ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:13am
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You must have drifted one nanometer from Slomo if this can blow you back. ------------- Manners are of more importance than laws Edmund Burke |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:17am
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No - don't like the way he was set-up. Hardly impulsive ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:20am
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Morrison had a near death political experience leading up to the 2019 election over Liberal women walking out over treatment of women. In March last year after the Higgins rape allegations and Morrison having to ask Jen whether it was wrong or not, he claimed to have had a ''moment'' of clarity on the subject and called an inquiry led by the chief of staff who tried to clean/cover up the Higgins mess . He appointed Barnaby Joyce to a panel to explore women's issues and made Amanda Stoker, an attacker of victims to Junior Minister for women. He said to Ms Tame that he bet she was glad to get that out(rape stuff) How is his women's affairs scoreboard going leading into another election? Does the govt still see it as a boutique feminist issue that doesn't cut through with suburban voters? |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:21am
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What the hell does the way Grace Tame looks at the PM have to do with the way you vote? ------------- Manners are of more importance than laws Edmund Burke |
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:26am
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Over the years the AOY award recipients have mostly been well received, but in hindsight some like Ms Tame, have over the passing of time, been controversial . Think back to Alan Bond, Tim Flannery, Adam Goodes & Geoffrey Rush. I do wonder whether Ms Tame's controversial meeting with the PM may come back to put an end to any political ambitions she may hold ? She has put half the population off side, which for a budding politician, does not help her election prospects. |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:26am
But lets blame Scommo for it all because of a few possible rogue incidents under his guard. And even that's ok - just leave the staged disrespect - that has the smell of political bias all over it. ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:27am
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'half the population" Try 5%
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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:30am
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Rubbish. Scommo would get minimum 40% on party lines alone. Not sure where you did that stuff up Tlazz ------------- And The Boys Light Up.... ! |
Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:31am
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The only people she has put offside are locked in liberal voters. Cos it made their man look like a chump. If anything, she might have entrenched peoples views. For a couple of days.
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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:32am
Everything.
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:33am
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Nobody remembers who the AOTT is. I'm looking at the list now and most of the names are drawing a blank?  Craig Challen and Richard Harris, 2019 - really? I've never heard of them.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_of_the_Year_Award_recipients ------------- Manners are of more importance than laws Edmund Burke |