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    Posted: 02 Oct 2025 at 6:08pm


HALF YOURS (AUS) Chestnut gelding 2020  
St Jean
Bay 2010		 Teofilo
Bay 2004		 Galileo
Bay 1998		 Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981		 Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge		 1961
1975		 2-d
5-h
Urban Sea
Chestnut 1989		 Miswaki
Allegretta		 1978
1978		 16-g
9-h
Speirbhean
Bay 1998		 Danehill
Bay 1986		 Danzig
Razyana		 1977
1981		 7-a
2-d
Saviour
Bay 1987		 Majestic Light
Victorian Queen		 1973
1971		 8-c
1-n
Oriental Fashion
Bay 1996		 Marju
Brown 1988		 Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983		 Try My Best
Mill Princess		 1975
1977		 8-f
8-c
Flame of Tara
Bay 1980		 Artaius
Welsh Flame		 1974
1973		 14-c
2-f
Wijdan
Chestnut 1991		 Mr Prospector
Bay 1970		 Raise a Native
Gold Digger		 1961
1962		 8-f
13-c
Height of Fashion
Bay 1979		 Bustino
Highclere		 1971
1971		 1-w
2-f
La Gazelle
Bay 2006		 Desert King
Bay 1994		 Danehill
Bay 1986		 Danzig
Bay 1977		 Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom		 1961
1968		 2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981		 His Majesty
Spring Adieu		 1968
1974		 4-d
2-d
Sabaah
Chestnut 1988		 Nureyev
Bay 1977		 Northern Dancer
Special		 1961
1969		 2-d
5-h
Dish Dash
Bay 1979		 Bustino
Loose Cover		 1971
1963		 1-w
1-k
Tolkaami
Chestnut 1989		 Raami
Chestnut 1981		 Be My Guest
Chestnut 1974		 Northern Dancer
What a Treat		 1961
1962		 2-d
8-c
Fast Motion
Bay 1971		 Midsummer Night
Holdfast		 1957
1951		 4-k
3-d
Another Genius
Brown 1984		 Tristino
Bay 1977		 Sir Tristram
Gay Poss		 1971
1966		 6-e
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Show Mist
Grey 1979		 Sharp Edge
Toolern Gold		 1970
1974		 11-d
7-d
  Ancestor duplications: Northern Dancer 5m x 5m,5m,5m   Danehill 4f x 3m   Bustino 5f x 5f  
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he will let us know this weekend if he's up to the top grade
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I have zero doubt he is up to the top grade. Whether he wins or not is another thing. 
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Certainly it lines up well for him
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He is definitely the one to beat heading into the Caulfield CUp at this point in time
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He was the one to beat! 
Magnificent racehorse! 🧡

Congratulations to Jamie Melham, McEvoys and all his connections Star
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Onto MC?
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Put this in the comps thread but applies here also

Half Yours is a throw back to Artilleryman (Melbourne Cup, AJC Derby, VRC St Leger, Memsie S, Caulfield Guineas, Rawson S etc).  He was produced by Half Your's 12th dam Cross Battery herself the granddaughter of Crossfire winner of the AJC Oaks and Doncaster H.  Cross Battery was inbred to that good mare Juliet.  This is old old Australasian blood - both Aussie and NZ.  Nice to know that someone went back looking for that type of blood but apart from Vain (pure speed), the line of stallions after St Jean (with his loving Teofilo blood and Height of Fashion female line) including Desert King (Makybe Diva), Raami (Ramyah), Tristino (A son of Sir Tristram), Sharp Edge (Rom's Stiletto), Showdown (Silver Sharpe, Leica Show), Dalray (Melbourne Cup), Pantheon (Peter Pan), Magpie (Windbag).  Let me stop there it's a staying pedigree and thank heavens they are sending him out over a trip!
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Furious, learning, learning.

I think you have a love affair going on with Juliet?

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yep.  I've been doing stakes race pedigrees since my teens and guess who turns up every season in so many female lines.  The big three in Australia and Eulogy, Manto and Juliet so far as female lines still performing centuries after they first arrived in Australasia.  

Eulogy is back out performing on the world stage with Starspangledbanner.  Juliet did the same with So You Think and earlier had a mare go to Japan which ended with a couple of G1's over there.  Manto had Trenton go early in our history but she had Written Tycoon and Anamoe among her more recent triumphs.

Those three female lines and that of Chelandry 1n are my favourites by far.
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Her stakes winner yesterday was Abounding in the Tristarc S.  And yes I followed that one from the sales.
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Yeah we have a mare trace back to Manto right now. Believe Holler and Microphone are also close up in said pedigree. Hopefully it means something.
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Scratchy you get good and bad.  But you get more good out of the better lines.  Hense more stakes winners or stakes runners.
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We will see how the Filly goes. Currently is 2, a bit gangly and still growing they think. Still hoping for her to run on the earlier side of next year as she's done well in the pre-training.
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Time to bump this up Big smile

I hope he wins it, for himself, for Janice, Jamie, the McEvoys, but mostly for foxseal and St Jean! Go boy! Clap
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I have been wrong about this before (Let's Elope and Saintly come to mind), but I have serious doubts about him at 3200m.

I will concede his hopes lift if we are into the heavy.

If he can do no work early and find a bum to follow that will give him his best hope.

I still think he had every hope at Caulfield and won, but the next three behind him for me were better runs.    
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I'll second that motion: all those in favour please raise your hand...Star
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Sorry SC for posting before him, but yes I hope he goes well for connections Thumbs Up
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Can't understand why everyone seems to be wanting to look around Half Yours out of the CC.

He sprinted when he needed to which really was a quick 2-3 lengths on the field. Then was as strong as any to the line until eased late by Jamie.

River of Stars was excellent, no knock on her at all, I just think Half Yours was better.

Valiant King, great to the eye but he did have the cheap run back in the field and through on the rails. Again thought HY was better.

Presage Nocturned, I don't get it from a winning perspective.  Followed HY and was dropped, only made late ground when HY eased.  Good for the back end of a first four but cannot have him beating HY.

HY has given no reason to think he won't stay the distance and gets his preferred toe in.  If he doesn't stay I will do my few sheckels, but I think those in behind have been overplayed by comparison. 
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From the Bred to Stay thread:

Originally posted by Foxseal Foxseal wrote:

Originally posted by Foxseal Foxseal wrote:

Been following the progeny of St Jean closely over the past 12 months.  He’s a completely under the radar stallion standing for only $3,300 at Brackley Park Stud up near Seymour.  But from a paltry number of runners he’s doing a good job, especially with stayers.

I had a few good collects earlier in the year with a mare called Jugan.

He got his first Saturday winner today at Murray Bridge with a gelding called Keevs winning over 2500m.

Checking out Keevs breeding, you won’t see a more stamina heavy pedigree if you tried.  Dam is by My Patriarch, who was a Hayes family import who broke down in a 1994 Cups campaign but had won a few big 3200m races in the UK. There’s also good staying stallions in previous generations in Oregon, Star Way &
Le Fripon.  

For those looking to breed a stayer or jumper, I’d be giving St Jean some due consideration.

I’ve been singing the praises of St Jean for a few years now.  Nobody is listening really.

But he’s finally got himself a banner horse in Half Yours - dominant winner of the Naturslism Stks today.  Onwards & upwards to the Caulfield Cup Thumbs Up
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People are listening now, foxy, and hopefully even more after tomorrow Big smile
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It would take a bit of Cup Magic, voyager, but what a great story it would be.

And very pleased on know you're onboard, tycoon!
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History LT.

1. Only 12 horses have won the cups double and I do not mean to me mean but he is not the best one I have seen attempt it.

2. He rises a chunk in weight. He sprinted quickly as you said but the three behind him were pulling ground off him late and that extra weight has proven hard to overcome. Incentivise could not do it and in my ratings he was a better stayer than Half Yours and horses like Elvstroem and Paris lane who again on my ratings were better horses could not do it, but they did run top four.

3. He had every hope in the Caulfield Cup, and yes he got the job done but it would be a miracle if everything went right for him at Flemington.

4. Valiant King and Prestage Nocturne will be far better off at Flemington. Valiant King was never ever let go at Caulfield and from the gate and over the extra distance I would be surprised if he got as far back as he did there and in the Bart Cummings.

5. His main aim was the Caulfield Cup. Now I am certain the stable would not be running if had shown any glimpses of training off, but this race is a secondary aim and we have seen that situation not end well in the past. 

Again having said that he does have the best form but he will need to be champion stayer to win!

Just like the top weight. I have no doubt he is the best credentialled runner but the history of horses with that weight means he is a no go bet for most.

To add I think this is better edition of the race than average.           
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Absolutely spanked them, what a run, what a horse.
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You know how you can tell when your see a great horse in action, when it defies history and not only wins, but dominates a race.

We may never see him race at 3200m again, but he is a horse who could develop into a WFA horse next year.

I know he carried a lightweight here but on his level of improvement if he can win the Tancred I would love to see him go overseas for a shot at the Arc.  

Congrats to the connections and especially the trainers and jockey Thumbs Up 
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St Jean took up residency at the Dwyer's farm in 2017.

He served 27 mares at a service fee of $3300.

After that first season, St Jean's book fluctuated, mostly in a downwards direction, hitting 21 in 2019 and as low as five in 2024.

"It's been very unfortunate that either the Victorian breeding industry didn't see what I saw in the pedigree, or they didn't want to breed stayers,'' Dwyer said.

"And up until now, he'd had only served mares owned by breeders who purely wanted to race the progeny.

"There has never been a yearling sold by this horse."


Shayne O'Cass, Racenet


https://www.racenet.com.au/news/melbourne-cup-breeders-faith-in-unfancied-stallion-st-jean-pays-off-with-caulfield-cup-winner-half-yours-20251103
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To be fair he hardly had a racing career that inspired patronage at stud, He was always going to have to it the hardest way possible.

Durbridge, who was a seriously great horse struggled at a similar fee. 
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If you owned Half Yours, what future races would you be dreaming of ? 
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Well if you do bred a stayer I'd not be afraid to send it to the McEvoy's!  Great win, great horse.  All he has done every start it improve.
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