Half Yours
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Topic: Half Yours
Posted By: djebel
Subject: Half Yours
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2025 at 6:08pm
------------- reductio ad absurdum |
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2025 at 7:33pm
| he will let us know this weekend if he's up to the top grade |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2025 at 7:34pm
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I have zero doubt he is up to the top grade. Whether he wins or not is another thing. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Plastic letters
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2025 at 7:34pm
| Certainly it lines up well for him |
Posted By: scratchy09
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2025 at 10:15pm
| He is definitely the one to beat heading into the Caulfield CUp at this point in time |
Posted By: brave_ponies
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2025 at 9:40pm
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He was the one to beat! Magnificent racehorse! 🧡 Congratulations to Jamie Melham, McEvoys and all his connections  |
Posted By: Majestic
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2025 at 9:47pm
| Onto MC? |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2025 at 2:48pm
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Put this in the comps thread but applies here also Half Yours is a throw back to Artilleryman (Melbourne Cup, AJC Derby, VRC St Leger, Memsie S, Caulfield Guineas, Rawson S etc). He was produced by Half Your's 12th dam Cross Battery herself the granddaughter of Crossfire winner of the AJC Oaks and Doncaster H. Cross Battery was inbred to that good mare Juliet. This is old old Australasian blood - both Aussie and NZ. Nice to know that someone went back looking for that type of blood but apart from Vain (pure speed), the line of stallions after St Jean (with his loving Teofilo blood and Height of Fashion female line) including Desert King (Makybe Diva), Raami (Ramyah), Tristino (A son of Sir Tristram), Sharp Edge (Rom's Stiletto), Showdown (Silver Sharpe, Leica Show), Dalray (Melbourne Cup), Pantheon (Peter Pan), Magpie (Windbag). Let me stop there it's a staying pedigree and thank heavens they are sending him out over a trip!
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Posted By: Freefall
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2025 at 2:58pm
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Furious, learning, learning. I think you have a love affair going on with Juliet? 👍
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2025 at 3:09pm
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yep. I've been doing stakes race pedigrees since my teens and guess who turns up every season in so many female lines. The big three in Australia and Eulogy, Manto and Juliet so far as female lines still performing centuries after they first arrived in Australasia. Eulogy is back out performing on the world stage with Starspangledbanner. Juliet did the same with So You Think and earlier had a mare go to Japan which ended with a couple of G1's over there. Manto had Trenton go early in our history but she had Written Tycoon and Anamoe among her more recent triumphs. Those three female lines and that of Chelandry 1n are my favourites by far.
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2025 at 3:24pm
| Her stakes winner yesterday was Abounding in the Tristarc S. And yes I followed that one from the sales. |
Posted By: scratchy09
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2025 at 7:28am
| Yeah we have a mare trace back to Manto right now. Believe Holler and Microphone are also close up in said pedigree. Hopefully it means something. |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2025 at 8:30am
| Scratchy you get good and bad. But you get more good out of the better lines. Hense more stakes winners or stakes runners. |
Posted By: scratchy09
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2025 at 9:18am
| We will see how the Filly goes. Currently is 2, a bit gangly and still growing they think. Still hoping for her to run on the earlier side of next year as she's done well in the pre-training. |
Posted By: brave_ponies
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2025 at 5:06pm
Time to bump this up  I hope he wins it, for himself, for Janice, Jamie, the McEvoys, but mostly for foxseal and St Jean! Go boy!
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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2025 at 5:21pm
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I have been wrong about this before (Let's Elope and Saintly come to mind), but I have serious doubts about him at 3200m. I will concede his hopes lift if we are into the heavy. If he can do no work early and find a bum to follow that will give him his best hope. I still think he had every hope at Caulfield and won, but the next three behind him for me were better runs. ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2025 at 5:22pm
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I'll second that motion: all those in favour please raise your hand...
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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2025 at 5:24pm
Sorry SC for posting before him, but yes I hope he goes well for connections  ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: Lastycoon
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2025 at 6:19pm
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Can't understand why everyone seems to be wanting to look around Half Yours out of the CC. He sprinted when he needed to which really was a quick 2-3 lengths on the field. Then was as strong as any to the line until eased late by Jamie. River of Stars was excellent, no knock on her at all, I just think Half Yours was better. Valiant King, great to the eye but he did have the cheap run back in the field and through on the rails. Again thought HY was better. Presage Nocturned, I don't get it from a winning perspective. Followed HY and was dropped, only made late ground when HY eased. Good for the back end of a first four but cannot have him beating HY. HY has given no reason to think he won't stay the distance and gets his preferred toe in. If he doesn't stay I will do my few sheckels, but I think those in behind have been overplayed by comparison.
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Posted By: brave_ponies
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2025 at 6:51pm
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From the Bred to Stay thread:
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Foxseal wrote:
Posted By: brave_ponies
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2025 at 6:56pm
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People are listening now, foxy, and hopefully even more after tomorrow
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Posted By: brave_ponies
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2025 at 6:57pm
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It would take a bit of Cup Magic, voyager, but what a great story it would be. And very pleased on know you're onboard, tycoon!
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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2025 at 7:10pm
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History LT. 1. Only 12 horses have won the cups double and I do not mean to me mean but he is not the best one I have seen attempt it. 2. He rises a chunk in weight. He sprinted quickly as you said but the three behind him were pulling ground off him late and that extra weight has proven hard to overcome. Incentivise could not do it and in my ratings he was a better stayer than Half Yours and horses like Elvstroem and Paris lane who again on my ratings were better horses could not do it, but they did run top four. 3. He had every hope in the Caulfield Cup, and yes he got the job done but it would be a miracle if everything went right for him at Flemington. 4. Valiant King and Prestage Nocturne will be far better off at Flemington. Valiant King was never ever let go at Caulfield and from the gate and over the extra distance I would be surprised if he got as far back as he did there and in the Bart Cummings. 5. His main aim was the Caulfield Cup. Now I am certain the stable would not be running if had shown any glimpses of training off, but this race is a secondary aim and we have seen that situation not end well in the past. Again having said that he does have the best form but he will need to be champion stayer to win! Just like the top weight. I have no doubt he is the best credentialled runner but the history of horses with that weight means he is a no go bet for most. To add I think this is better edition of the race than average. ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: Lastycoon
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 3:14pm
| Absolutely spanked them, what a run, what a horse. |
Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 3:24pm
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You know how you can tell when your see a great horse in action, when it defies history and not only wins, but dominates a race. We may never see him race at 3200m again, but he is a horse who could develop into a WFA horse next year. I know he carried a lightweight here but on his level of improvement if he can win the Tancred I would love to see him go overseas for a shot at the Arc. Congrats to the connections and especially the trainers and jockey ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 3:46pm
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St Jean took up residency at the Dwyer's farm in 2017. He served 27 mares at a service fee of $3300. After that first season, St Jean's book fluctuated, mostly in a downwards direction, hitting 21 in 2019 and as low as five in 2024. "It's been very unfortunate that either the Victorian breeding industry didn't see what I saw in the pedigree, or they didn't want to breed stayers,'' Dwyer said. "And up until now, he'd had only served mares owned by breeders who purely wanted to race the progeny. "There has never been a yearling sold by this horse." Shayne O'Cass, Racenet https://www.racenet.com.au/news/melbourne-cup-breeders-faith-in-unfancied-stallion-st-jean-pays-off-with-caulfield-cup-winner-half-yours-20251103" rel="nofollow - https://www.racenet.com.au/news/melbourne-cup-breeders-faith-in-unfancied-stallion-st-jean-pays-off-with-caulfield-cup-winner-half-yours-20251103 ------------- Manners are of more importance than laws Edmund Burke |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 3:52pm
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To be fair he hardly had a racing career that inspired patronage at stud, He was always going to have to it the hardest way possible. Durbridge, who was a seriously great horse struggled at a similar fee. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 3:53pm
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If you owned Half Yours, what future races would you be dreaming of ? ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 3:53pm
The Arc for sure, djebel
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 3:56pm
| Well if you do bred a stayer I'd not be afraid to send it to the McEvoy's! Great win, great horse. All he has done every start it improve. |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 3:56pm
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This guy winning was a brilliant result for the race. I just love that an unfashionably bred local horse who started his career running 2nd in a 1600m maiden at Camperdown can still work through the grades & rise to claim the greatest race in the country
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 4:00pm
| Interestingly his fee went up from $3k to $11k on the back of Half Your's exploits earlier on this year, so it'll be more than interesting to see how many he'll end up serving this season. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 4:22pm
He has that kind of ability that's for sure. Unfortunately he is 2 stone lite. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 4:23pm
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Rightio.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 4:25pm
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Calvin said WFA races when asked a few days ago. ------------- It takes a wise man a lifetime to grow a tree and a fool five minutes to kill one. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 4:28pm
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If a horse like Marienbard can win an Arc why can't any very good stayer ? ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 4:29pm
I do not know what they do in the Autumn but I hope they dream of doing the Rising Fast treble. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 5:42pm
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Very late foal - 10/11/20 Very late to start racing - 10/1/24 - so 4yo If this form I'm looking at is accurate. ------------- Manners are of more importance than laws Edmund Burke |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 5:47pm
| January 3yo. |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 5:49pm
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D'OH! ------------- Manners are of more importance than laws Edmund Burke |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 5:50pm
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I wonder why he was born in November. Is his mother an elephant? ------------- Manners are of more importance than laws Edmund Burke |
Posted By: HarnessGuru
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 5:55pm
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How did the racing world let Estadio Mestalla go around $19! Last start winner V Half Yours & wins 2hrs after Half Yours takes out the Cup! |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2025 at 5:59pm
Two possible reasons. He was better at middle distance than staying and he was going better in that last campaign where he won the Arc. ------------- Manners are of more importance than laws Edmund Burke |
Posted By: Foxseal
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2025 at 9:13am
Where to next for Cups champ?In a year where he's had 10 starts for six wins and risen through the grades from a Benchmark 64 to a Caulfield and Melbourne Cups hero, Half Yours is now set for a well-earned break. The Tony and Calvin McEvoy-trained stayer has pulled up well from his Melbourne Cup triumph and won't be rushed back to the races in the new year. "The autumn's going to be very quiet for him," Tony McEvoy said on Wednesday. We've had him in all year; to think we can get him back in the autumn's probably unfair. "We haven't made a decision, but we'll probably go back to Queensland, there's a race up there called the Q22 or the Doomben Cup and then probably target a Cox Plate, which can still open up the Caulfield and Melbourne Cups. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2025 at 9:32am
Very sensible & similar to what they've done with Cool Archie after his gruelling 2yo campaign  ------------- It takes a wise man a lifetime to grow a tree and a fool five minutes to kill one. |
Posted By: brave_ponies
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2025 at 10:58am
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Bravo! This is why they deserved to win the Cup!
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Posted By: Tom Rolfe
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2025 at 7:00pm
| According to Ch9 6.00pm news melbourne connections are thinking about royal ascot and the japan cup |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2025 at 7:34pm
| So a 20,00km trip to Ascot in late 2026 followed by a 9,000 km trip two months later to run in Japan. BOL boys. |
Posted By: Tom Rolfe
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2025 at 8:01pm
| royal ascot is 16-20 june in 2026. there are only 2 group 1s for older horses that might suit - the prince of wales stakes over abt 2000m and the gold cup over abt 4000m. guessing the connections are thinking about the latter and i imagine trawlerman will be a short priced fav if he races on next year. maybe they are aiming going for a G2 race over 2400 possibly the hardwicke stakes if my memory is working. maybe the story was misreported. The last aus horse i can think of that excelled over more than 2 miles in aus was wakeful and that was circa 1900 a long time ago - historians tick me off if i am wrong |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2025 at 8:14pm
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Won't happen. ------------- Manners are of more importance than laws Edmund Burke |
Posted By: brave_ponies
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2025 at 8:30pm
| Won’t happen if it was reported on Ch 9 (no offence, Tom) - their Cup coverage was shyte! |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2025 at 9:08pm
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No reason why they can't dream of a Japan Cup. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: scratchy09
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2025 at 7:21am
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You'd probably look to the 2027 Gold Cup if you were to. A 2026 Japan Cup seems reasonable. He is clearly progressive but at this point in time, it is unlikely he is good enough to win either. On a side note however, it got me thinking. This was almost the spring that wasn't for Half Yours. As he was first emergency for the Naturalism, imagine if he missed that run? He might've had to run in an 1800m Hcp, then into the Might and Power, if he wanted to run in the Caulfield Cup. |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2025 at 4:20pm
I mean the English races. I can't see how the Japan Cup would work either, unless they give up defending the cups and keep him to wfa all spring, but it's not impossible. He would have to be dominating wfa here, which is a fair step up from winning handicaps with 52.5/53 kg. ------------- Manners are of more importance than laws Edmund Burke |
Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2025 at 11:38pm
| Would need to improve by a lot to be competitive in Japan and Europe. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2025 at 11:14am
He would not need to improve a great deal to be competitive in a Japan Cup or any race he eligible for in Europe. There is 26 days between the Melbourne Cup in 2026 and the Japan Cup. Obviously it would not be easy but it would be doable. Perhaps Hong Kong is more realistic ?
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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2025 at 9:36pm
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14 days quarantine in Australia prior to departure from Australia and another 7 days upon arrival in Japan is required when transporting horses from Australia to Japan, he's an animal not a vehicle. Only you would think that turn around is doable. ------------- The worlds oldest fossil was discovered in Australia, they named it Rupert Murdoch. |
Posted By: scratchy09
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2025 at 8:40am
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Afros. Plenty of horses come here having to do far worse quarantine and still win. So it is clearly possible. |
Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2025 at 3:59pm
Won the Melbourne Cup (3200m) by 2.75 lengths.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2025 at 7:15pm
Really?  ------------- It takes a wise man a lifetime to grow a tree and a fool five minutes to kill one. |
Posted By: scratchy09
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2025 at 5:14pm
| Easy to say after the race |
Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2025 at 5:35pm
| Easy to say before the race too. |
Posted By: HarnessGuru
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2025 at 6:00pm
| Easy not to be a lollipop too |
Posted By: Mr Grieves
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2025 at 7:59pm
You didn't though
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2025 at 8:10pm
| Pointless recent discussion, other than to diss others. Surely time to move on. |
Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2025 at 3:12pm
| https://7news.com.au/sport/horse-racing/half-yours-sire-st-jean-dies-after-tragic-paddock-accident--c-20811599%20" rel="nofollow - https://7news.com.au/sport/horse-racing/half-yours-sire-st-jean-dies-after-tragic-paddock-accident--c-20811599 |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2026 at 6:06pm
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What happened to this bloke ? He was supposed to kick off in the George Ryder before heading up to Queensland. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2026 at 6:19pm
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How many older horses has McEvoy managed successfully? His only chance is they didn't have him as a yearling/2yo. ------------- It takes a wise man a lifetime to grow a tree and a fool five minutes to kill one. |
Posted By: pnclick
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2026 at 7:41pm
| He jumped out last Friday at Flemington and went fine. Not pushed at all, so looks like they are simply giving him more time. |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2026 at 7:57pm
| Think I heard the plan was to kick off in the All Aged Stakes, then up to QLD for 2 runs - presumably Hollindale Cup & Doomben Cup. |