Sunlight

My opinion, two stallions that seem to compliment most bloodlines and also seem to upgrade them, possibly hard to do with a Gp1 mare, areI Am Invincible and Snitzel. Haven’t looked at computer matching programs. No better two stallions for percentage of producing winners and SWs. I look forward to other opinions.

I haven't checked pedigrees either but am wondering if So You Think might complement her speed and add a little more distance potential. He certainly throws quality conformation as well as athleticism.

Have a short list of about half a dozen possibles.

They’ve certainly tried to stay in the pocket with the immediate family over the years. Besides Zoustar’s headline act, can we take anything from the attempts to add Sebring into the equation? What was he supposed to bring to the party & where else can in be found?

I’m usually in the camp that thinks there’s never enough Vain. At least with Sunlight, there are a couple of Wilkes’ daughters in the mix through Meteor Mist, so a maternal Vain influence, say Written Tycoon or All Too Hard, might spark something?

I’m also a Last Tycoon fan, so I’d have Merchant Navy on the shortlist as well.

It’s interesting that you appear to implicitly bag Sebring as a possible match RH.  FWIW I believe the match has definite attractions, such as his:

·         proven sire record;

·         ability to get winners over most distances including Classic performers; and

·         attractiveness from a line breeding perspective, in particular the cross of superb broodmare Rolls.

Admittedly it brings in three (sex balanced) strains of Danehill, but back at 4 x 4, 5.

Not saying it’s brilliant, but still well worth consideration.

Well I've apparently misunderstood, so would appreciate if you could explain what you meant by posting ".. can we take anything from the attempts to add Sebring into the equation? What was he supposed to bring to the party & where else can in be found?"

Interesting to read Red Hare's comment that Vain "might spark something." Given that Sunlight was a pure speed machine from a pretty good family, I don't know if there was a missing spark that we should be looking for. Speed on speed would not be the strategy that I would be looking at. Interestingly Causeway Queen won to 2100m and the family traces back to a GB mare called Bunfeast who came out around WW1 and immediately produced Royal Feast who won the VRC and AJC Sires' Produce. A few generations later we see the family visiting stallions like Dhoti and Comic Court although with relatively little success. For me, it would be proven stallions like Lonhro, Pierro or even So You Think that look to have plenty to offer as part of a long term strategy.

Second Chance wrote: Doesn't really matter now.  Appears I've been living in a cave and wasn't aware or couldn't remember that Sebring had passed.

Sebring had a heart attack Feb 2019.

Hello,

I thought it simply a case of 'best to best' &/or market aimed, as I did with Invincibella  I guess hype always sells well, so probably good econimic decisions.

With a mare like this it's just not good enough to go to the second tier.  Coolmore have bought her and others to go to Justify.  Yes not my first choice for her either but his Nijinsky blood at least offers some cross for Redoute's and Ogygian (sire of the dam of Johannesburg) is from the same female line as Sunlight herself but is closer to Fappiano (in Zoustar) with them both decending from Plucky Liege.

Ticino wrote: Hello, I wasn't lookuing so deep in Sunlight's ped.   My suugestion would be a Sire with Machiavellian in his ped. He is from the same damline as Danehill, but via a different strain.   Zoustar is by "Northern Meteor", a very Close inbred sire from the Dalmary Family. On the other Hand "Solar Charged" carries none of them, so Sires with Sadlers Wells/Nureyev/Perugine etc. comes to mind.   An interestiong mating would be with the promising 3 year old colt "Palm Springs" (Maxios-Panatella by Medicean) here in Germany.; because he is 3x3 Machiavellian/Coup de Genie FB/FS. I knew, it's very very hypothetical.   A bit of topic "Star Shower" carries the Germanbred Sire "Novalis" (from Owen Tudor).   regards, Ticino

Edited by Take2 - 07 Aug 2020 at 1:57am