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Disgraceful. 
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Not surprised at all. Disappointing.
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Why are you not surprised ?
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So not raceday performance enhancing at all. What were the levels - infinitesmal?Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TJMitchell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2021 at 9:06pm
Couldn't have been much Tlaz. Feel this one is pretty accidental.
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Why did the horse need it ?

Why is it part of the process ?


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Ever seen a vet bill? Seen the stuff that goes into a horse while in work? 

This horse was probably scoped, jabbed, drenched and wrapped all before 9.30 Tuesday morning
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Why did the horse need it ?

Why is it part of the process ?


To prolong soundness & thus their racing life djebel. What's the difference between elite sportsmen/women & horses or dogs? They all have stressed body tissues post extreme efforts & thus need treatment. At least this stuff's well known & not flying under the analyst's radars!
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Perhaps the horses should not be pushed to run every fortnight.

Zaaki would not be allowed to have any of this medication whilst in work in the UK. 

It is another blight on this countries reputation. 

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Biggest question raised from Zaakis positive test result is in sentence about horses routinely being given anti-inflammatories post-galloping. Why? If they are at that stage why not rest them until they can be trained medication-free? Better for the horse and the sports image.
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His form in England wasn't overly flash, who's to say he didn't have niggles holding him back? They're hardly going to disclose if in fact they were aware of them?
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Comes over here and turns into the best thing since sliced bread, how good are we? Wink
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we're just better trainers according to Moods Ermm
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Perhaps the horses should not be pushed to run every fortnight.

Zaaki would not be allowed to have any of this medication whilst in work in the UK. 

It is another blight on this countries reputation. 

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Biggest question raised from Zaakis positive test result is in sentence about horses routinely being given anti-inflammatories post-galloping. Why? If they are at that stage why not rest them until they can be trained medication-free? Better for the horse and the sports image.
Best you read up what's allowable in the UK and EU in regard to medication , your knowledge on the physical side is minuscule . Wink
this is allowable 72 hours before racing , mind you I could be wrong fwiw .Big smile
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Perhaps the horses should not be pushed to run every fortnight.

Zaaki would not be allowed to have any of this medication whilst in work in the UK. 

It is another blight on this countries reputation. 

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Biggest question raised from Zaakis positive test result is in sentence about horses routinely being given anti-inflammatories post-galloping. Why? If they are at that stage why not rest them until they can be trained medication-free? Better for the horse and the sports image.

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It's all there TJ , 72 hours retention time , I think this horse was right on the cusp so they let it run , the race got the metabolism into overdrive and whatever little amount that was there was expired , she stated Tuesday and the time period was in accordance to the rules , this is Not the first horse to have a very slight positive and the slow release has held a fraction , every time you see this horse he's at the beach , of course !! therapeutic. Wink
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They are catching a lot of people at levels far below performance enhancing. It's like if the police set their radar speed guns to 5kph.LOL
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Don't go to tassie I got pulled over 5kmp over on a hill, but they gave a caution.  Didn't help my heart rate or driving.  I was so focused on the speed I could of hit anyone because I was constantly looking down at the speedo.
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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Why did the horse need it ?

Why is it part of the process ?


To prolong soundness & thus their racing life djebel. What's the difference between elite sportsmen/women & horses or dogs? They all have stressed body tissues post extreme efforts & thus need treatment. At least this stuff's well known & not flying under the analyst's radars!

Rest assured that every footballer in the country takes anti inflammatories. For FS, I take it before a round of golfSmile
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Don't go to tassie I got pulled over 5kmp over on a hill, but they gave a caution.  Didn't help my heart rate or driving.  I was so focused on the speed I could of hit anyone because I was constantly looking down at the speedo.


That reminds me of the last time I was in Tasmania, racing to get to a flight at Launceston from the north-west. I was going 120 for a good stretch of it and I wasn't on my lonesome.Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Don't go to tassie I got pulled over 5kmp over on a hill, but they gave a caution.  Didn't help my heart rate or driving.  I was so focused on the speed I could of hit anyone because I was constantly looking down at the speedo.


That reminds me of the last time I was in Tasmania, racing to get to a flight at Launceston from the north-west. I was going 120 for a good stretch of it and I wasn't on my lonesome.Embarrassed
makes sense Tlaz. that road I s 110 km  and then you get your 10 percent allowance??
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You don't have to be a sportsman to need pain killers.  The vast majority of people would have something for a sore back, head, neck etc at least once a week and we aren't out challenging our bodies to produce the best they can.  The way my back feels at the moment - I need them now!
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On the other hand I was somewhere near Port Arthur after dark and there was a sign saying keep below 60 after dark to avoid hitting devils. So I'm crawling along and I must have missed the sign that says you can speed up again because I never saw one so I went for km after km at under 60.

I would like to know how long that Tassie Devil speed restricted zone is. It's probably only 5k or something like that but I went 30 or 40.Big smile
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

You don't have to be a sportsman to need pain killers.  The vast majority of people would have something for a sore back, head, neck etc at least once a week and we aren't out challenging our bodies to produce the best they can.  The way my back feels at the moment - I need them now!


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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Perhaps the horses should not be pushed to run every fortnight.

Zaaki would not be allowed to have any of this medication whilst in work in the UK. 

It is another blight on this countries reputation. 

Emma Berry - 

Biggest question raised from Zaakis positive test result is in sentence about horses routinely being given anti-inflammatories post-galloping. Why? If they are at that stage why not rest them until they can be trained medication-free? Better for the horse and the sports image.
Suggest you get the BHA drug list and detention times and pin it on your forehead , your " holier than thou " attitude in regard to UK racing is laughable , do you think this Lady would ruin her short and promising career over this drug , you owe her an apology imo.
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It is not about her as such it is about the Aussie culture.


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You've been actively involved with yards in Euro countries & the US have you djebel? Confused


Edited by Gay3 - 18 Jun 2021 at 2:40pm
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You telling me you've worked in the US racing industry.

I am sure you know they have a worse culture than our trainers.
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What's the US racing culture got to do with your post ? Big smile
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

You telling me you've worked in the US racing industry.
I am sure you know they have a worse culture than our trainers.


No & neither have I implied so, unlike you, who seem to know the intricate workings of European stables from the inside out, not to mention those in Oz too Confused
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