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Just when is the ABC going to give Norman Swan, a physician, the flick for his litany of prediction failures about the Covid outbreak in Australia ? For starters Swan has no qualifications in immunology or virology and is out of his depth in both those fields of expertise, yet appears on the ABC as if he is an expert in those fields of medicine. Since April 2020 he made predictions that hundreds of thousands of Australians would die before the end of 2020, and throughout 2021 he has made somewhat ludicrous predictions, all of which have proved to so far off reality that he is an embarrassment .

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Well Bobbie, you are full of surprises.
Never figured you to be an avid ABC watcher.

Was sure you were a Jones,Bolt, Cretin devotee
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Correct, Rusty, I do not recall when I last watched the ABC, however they replayed Swan's television interviews on Sky. 
Hope you can pick race winners as easily as knowing I am no fan of the ABC.Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Second Chance Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2021 at 8:52pm
In reality Swann has his finger right on the pulse, and I challenge anyone to, er, challenge the majority of his qualified and expressed opinion.  And that includes you Bob.
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SC, hundreds of thousands dying of Covid in Australia. Yea, just as believable as if my aunty had a moustache she would have been my uncle.
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His prediction of thousands of deaths was based on little or no government restrictions
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TJMitchell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2021 at 9:02pm
Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

SC, hundreds of thousands dying of Covid in Australia. Yea, just as believable as if my aunty had a moustache she would have been my uncle.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Second Chance Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2021 at 9:04pm
Exactly Horlicks.

Nothing like Bob taking and criticizing comments totally out of context.  Ouch
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Originally posted by horlicks horlicks wrote:

His prediction of thousands of deaths was based on little or no government restrictions
Okay, that might have been the case in 2020 at the beginning of the outbreak in Australia, but what about the tens of thousand of deaths he predicted in 2021, when restrictions had already been enacted ?

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Originally posted by horlicks horlicks wrote:

His prediction of thousands of deaths was based on little or no government restrictions
If ever a pigeon came home to roost he found a Post to rest on here. Clap
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Here is a bit of evidence how Swanny zigs and zags with his analysis of Covid

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It's an ever moving canvas Bob, as epidemiologists have continually maintained, and explains why health experts world-wide have had to review and amend thoughts and strategies based on that very reality. 
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Yes, even Dr. Fauci .
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Why is Aunty being very quiet on the breaking scandal down there in MEL, funny that.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Anyone else who can't even be bothered opening the link?

Just another conspiracy for the febrile redemption Confused

The virus does not even seem to be that deadly, Australian sufferers are not dying, I would think pneumonia or the common cold kills more

Of course all precautions should be taken, these things can mutate to something much worse 

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No, Dr Swan was way out with his predictions.
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Who would have thought?  Shocked

News Corp’s Herald Sun runs climate change ‘furphy’ ad on third day of net zero campaign

News Corp’s Melbourne tabloid has run an ad describing climate change as a “furphy”…


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Stat of the day:

"A 2017 Australia Institute report found Australia had 0.3 per cent of the world’s population but 76 per cent of the world’s poker machines outside of gambling-only venues."Clap


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-14/how-the-gambling-industry-cashed-in-on-political-donations/100509026
An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

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Poker machines, like all forms of gambling, attract taxes, which in reality, is a form of voluntary taxation.
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I do not know "Leighton", from Trafalgar, a provincial town in Gippsland, from a bar of soap, but he had this published in today's press..

"It is amazing how the ABC refuses to take the hint with Q&A .People don't want to watch that sort of biassed waffle anymore. A commercial channel would already given it the flick "

I have not watch Q&A in years, but some years ago, I agreed with "Leighton's " sentiments.
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14 Days of Free Trial @ Flash (A New Live & on-Demand News Subscription from Foxtel)


https://www.flashnews.com.au/Censored
An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

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Is Flash like Binge or KAYO for news?
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

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Not a bad lineup but you can get most and a lot more of them free online.

Sorry Rupe, no $8 for you.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Not a bad lineup but you can get most and a lot more of them free online.

Sorry Rupe, no $8 for you.
LOLLOL , me neither , I've got my own source and it'l do me .Wink
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Stat of the day:

"A 2017 Australia Institute report
found Australia had 0.3 per cent of the world’s population but 76 per
cent of the world’s poker machines outside of gambling-only venues."Clap


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-14/how-the-gambling-industry-cashed-in-on-political-donations/100509026


---That being allowed is just so WRONG Tlaz.

Australia is not a very Bright Place in fact We have retards in Politics,
Too many to name .
We destroy financially anyone smoking a legal product ,   but we build comfort areas for illegal drug users and lue the vulnerable into the gamble , by licencing such things as Poker Machines.
We need Friday executions for the guilty parties..
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& young Laundy - owners of a squillion pubs relying on Pokies - would seem to be very close with Dom. Almost his shadow over the past few days. So don’t expect too much change
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Auditor-General finds ‘no policy or precedent’ for ABC to pay Louise Milligan’s legal costs


The Auditor-General has found the ABC did not have documented advice or policies to support its decision to pay star reporter Louise Milligan’s $200,000 in legal costs after she was sued by federal Liberal MP Andrew Laming over a series of tweets where she incorrectly accused Mr Laming of “upskirting”.

In a formal response to an investigation request instigated by Liberal senator Eric Abetz, Auditor-General Grant Hehir concluded he was unable “to form a view on the appropriateness” of the ABC’s decision to pay $79,000 damages plus legal costs to Dr Laming to settle the case.Mr Hehir said the ABC had advised him its decision to pay Milligan’s personal legal costs “was a business decision of the ABC, and the ABC was under no express legal obligation to meet these costs”. Milligan was represented by external legal firm Bird & Bird.

“The ABC advised the business decision placed the ABC in a better position to facilitate a swift resolution to the Dr Laming proceedings and to assist the progress of the separate legal proceedings,” Mr Hehir wrote in a letter responding to Senator Abetz, published on the Australian National Audit Office website on Monday.

“To the ANAO’s knowledge there is no documented advice which was prepared to support the appropriateness of the decision to meet the costs of an employee.”

Mr Hehir’s response also revealed the total bill to be paid by the ABC was “in the vicinity of $200,000” and said the events exposed weaknesses and risk in the broadcaster’s social media policies, which ABC management updated following Milligan’s settlement with Dr Laming in early August.Senator Abetz, a vocal critic of the public broadcaster, wrote to Mr Hehir in August requesting he review the “appropriateness” the ABC using public funds to settle the case. At the time, the ABC justified the decision on the grounds of “particular and exceptional circumstances”.

Mr Hehir said it was the duty of the ABC board or its delegates to ensure the proper use of public resources by balancing the perceived business advantages against the financial costs. But in the absence “of any ABC policy, precedent, or process in place for this payment,” Mr Hehir said he was unable to assess the ABC’s decision in line with the Public Governance, Performance and Accountability Act 2013.“Given the available information, I do not believe I would be able to form a view on the appropriateness of this decision,” Mr Hehir wrote.

Dr Laming sued Milligan personally, with the broadcaster not party to the suit, over four since-deleted tweets published on March 28 this year from her personal account, including one that incorrectly suggested he had admitted to the criminal offence of taking an “upskirting” photo of a woman’s underwear.

He took legal action against the tweets after Queensland police in April cleared him of any criminal offence over a photo he took of Brisbane woman Crystal White while she stocked a fridge at a landscaping business in 2019. He faced separate allegations he harassed two women online, for which he apologised before later announcing he will quit politics at the next election.

At the time Dr Laming commenced proceedings against Milligan, the ABC was also defending a defamation suit brought by former attorney-general Christian Porter that concerned Milligan’s reporting of a historical rape allegation against him, which Mr Porter denies.

The Auditor-General said the broadcaster advised him the ABC’s Managing Director discussed both legal matters between May 22 and 25, including whether the ABC could be found to be vicariously liable for Milligan’s personal use of social media.

“The ABC advised that this decision was made to effectively allow engagement with the complaint by Dr Laming such that both the Dr Laming complaint and the separate legal proceedings could be managed in an optimal and timely manner, and minimise financial exposure,” Mr Hehir said.But he added: “No specific external legal advice was sought in relation to the decision to meet the costs.”

An ABC spokeswoman claimed the Auditor-General’s letter was consistent with its previous statements on the matter, namely “that it acted to avoid potentially protracted and costly litigation”.

She said the broadcaster believed the update to the ABC’s social media guidelines had now addressed the potential risks identified by the events, having obtained external legal advice on its social media guidelines and developed a program of staff training.

“At the time of issuing the revised guidelines, the Managing Director stressed that ABC staff are personally liable for activities on their own social media accounts”.Senator Abetz said it was “wholly inappropriate” for the ABC to pay for the legal costs of a staff member who made remarks in their private capacity.

“The report demonstrates the urgent need to reform the ABC to provide policies in this area to prevent further cases of taxpayers’ spending their money on private defamation cases,” he said.

Dr Laming has also sued Nine News, owned by Nine Entertainment Co, publisher of this masthead, for defamation over similar allegations.

He threatened to sue at least 10 other journalists and politicians, receiving apologies and retractions from Greens Senator Sarah Hanson Young, former Senator Derryn Hinch, Chaser owned outfit The Shot, Senator Murray Watt, blogger William Bowe, Queensland Labor MP Don Brown and journalist Eliza Barr.


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 So, who do you think is the actual douche-bag?  Milligan, the ABC or Laming...?

 I know who I think it is.

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"accidently " watched Q&A Thursday.
Worthwhile with Chris Uhlmann, James Paterson, Ed Husic, Yun Jiang, Lavina Lee.
Uhlmann when asked what to do with Turnbull, Rudd, Keating....stuff them...LOL

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