Voting Yes

 I have better things to do...like listening to The Young Rascals, while playing freecell. 

I genuinely hope that if this referendum proposal goes down it will result in REAL action to help those who need it.

 as do we all...

It should be about doing something , it’s about doing the right thing. Albanese has all the powers he needs right now to implement the Voice . He doesn’t have to change the Constitution to have it up and running. I’m against any group of Australians having special privileges based on race written into our Constitution and voted against it.

oneonesit wrote: This comment may sound a bit odd - however I will say it anyway YES voters are generally "nicer" people than NO voters. Obviously not always the case. Most are well intentioned More likely to be Climate Activists, BLM supporters, pro-boat people et al They must go through life continually disappointed

Wonder how Allbo is going to weather the storm if No gets the nod .  His party are good at using the boot

Baguette wrote: It should be about doing something , it’s about doing the right thing. Albanese has all the powers he needs right now to implement the Voice . He doesn’t have to change the Constitution to have it up and running. I’m against any group of Australians having special privileges based on race written into our Constitution and voted against it.

I think that at the moment all the tools are there at the Federal Government level to help the disadvantaged Indigenous people but that help is not getting through to the grass roots where it’s needed . We spend billions of dollars on Indigenous Affairs but it’s the allocation of this money that’s the problem. I also think we have to acknowledge that so many of the problems are social ones that no Federal Government can fix no matter what policies they implement or how much money they spend . It’s up to the communities themselves to turn it around. I also can’t see how 20 odd people working out of Canberra can possibly represent our diverse indigenous population in any meaningful way. The Voice is ATSIC mark 2 and will achieve nothing but is hugely divisive and that’s not a good thing!

 If there are problems...just go in and at least attempt to fix them. Do not set up another advisory  committee which will only delay the process.

Great posts ^ .

That's exactly the kind of common sense, realistic stuff that might come out of this referendum gimmick.

I would have thought the ones who go into those communities thinking they can actually make a difference are the ones that only last a few months

Agree with both posts, One one. That's why I mentioned the financial incentive and said that the teachers who actually stay can get into it because they love fishing, hunting etc, more than just money or idealism.

Totally agree that if the indigenous have a Voice, so should other genuinely disadvantaged people who can't get out of the crap they live in without some special consideration.

I suspect thinking you can go in there and make massive changes would be the wrong attitute to have.

Do you suggest we just keep doing what we are doing and accept disadvantage because it doesn't affect us?

Yup thread has deteriorated from its intent