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    Posted: 18 Sep 2018 at 2:54pm
Ardmore Lodge trainer Nick Bishara has confirmed that his talented three-year-old filly Verry Elleegant has been sold to a Trans Tasman syndicate and will do her future racing in Australia.

"She has been sold and will be joining Darren Weir," Bishara said. "She leaves on Wednesday.

"Darren Weir's clients have taken fifty per cent, Jomara Bloodstock have taken 25 per cent and the original ownership group have retained 25 per cent."

The daughter of Zed has raced on just three occasions, catching the eye with a fast-closing second on debut behind subsequent stakes winner Cyber Attack, before effortless victories at Ruakaka and Matamata.

"She's the best I've had by a long way," Bishara said.

"The fact that she is still so raw and does a lot wrong and still wins her races easily, the upside to her is enormous.

"She is three and all of the three-year-old classics are in front of her.

"She's very exciting and it's good that she is going to get an opportunity to race for some great prizemoney and we're still part of it.

"There is nothing wrong with hopping on a plane and going to Melbourne for Cup week."

Bishara was delighted that the original ownership syndicate including himself would be able to continue to enjoy the ride, while fellow Kiwis Mark and John Carter and their sister Rachel, who race under the Jomara Bloodstock banner, would also be involved.

"We sat here at Christmas last year and I was struggling to syndicate her amongst my owners or friends," Bishara said.

"You could have sold her a hundred times over now.

"It's been intense pressure. There was an offer there wanting us to scratch the horse at 7am on race morning before she won at Matamata, but there was no signed agreement.

"We took a huge gamble racing her, but the only thing I could see beating her was bad luck and she just did it easily.

"The interest has been unbelievable. I had my first decent night's sleep in about six weeks last night.

"Half our trainers wouldn't be here if it wasn't for being able to trade a horse to Australia or Hong Kong or other Asian markets. It is just part of what every trainer here has to do.

"We are very lucky that we breed good horses still and compete in races like Derbys and Oaks, where we've got a pretty good record."

Verry Elleegant was a $14 chance to win the Group 1 New Zealand 1000 Guineas (1600m) and is rated a $26 prospect to win the G1 VRC Oaks (2500m).
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VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ)Bay filly 2015 
Zed
Bay 2002
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Bay 1971
Sir Ivor
Bay 1965
Sir Gaylord
Attica
1959
1953
2-s
8-g
Isolt
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Round Table
All My Eye
1954
1954
2-f
6-e
Lady Giselle
Bay 1982
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Special
1961
1969
2-d
5-h
Valderna
Bay 1972
Val de Loir
Derna
1959
1961
5-h
16-c
Emerald Dream
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Theme Song
Bay 1987
Sackford
Bay 1980
Stop the Music
Bon Fille
1970
1962
11-g
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Cotehele House
Brown or black 1980
My Swanee
Eight Carat
1963
1975
8-j
9-c
Opulence
Brown 2005
Danroad
Bay 1999
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Strawberry Girl
Bay 1993
Strawberry Road
Bay 1979
Whiskey Road
Giftisa
1972
1974
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Pay the Piper
Chestnut 1977
Bombay Duck
Riskay Reid
1972
1972
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4-m
Mulan Magic
Bay 1999
King's Theatre
Bay 1991
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
Regal Beauty
Bay or brown 1981
Princely Native
Dennis Belle
1971
1960
14-c
9-b
Chalet Girl
Chestnut 1985
Imposing
Chestnut 1975
Todman
Hialeah
1954
1963
1-u
1-c
Cotehele House
Brown or black 1980
My Swanee
Eight Carat
1963
1975
8-j
9-c
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m,5m x 5m,5m Danehill3f x 3m Cotehele House4f x 4f




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Go ELLE!
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I don't know anything about this horse but the market is telling us she'll run a good race.

On a side note, l didn't realise they allowed a horse's name to be spelt like this?
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Good to see another generation of the eight carat family stying on.

She looked extremely unlucky to my eye!
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Has a high head carry for one that they hope will see out 2500m. Outside draw might suit her better?
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Originally posted by MJB MJB wrote:

I don't know anything about this horse but the market is telling us she'll run a good race.

On a side note, l didn't realise they allowed a horse's name to be spelt like this?


If they have a Triple Crown champion spelt like American Pharoah allowed then krep like this will get past Racing Administrators.

Foreign names that are suss though will get you fine and a suspension!
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Went to the line strong , Wakeful then Oaks, looking good imo.
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The sire Zed was standing for $500 only a few years ago,  Little Avondale Stud I believe......that's racing for you. Then again, they were giving Tavistocks away for even less, his fillies nowadays aren't going for much more.....NZ is where to bag a bargain.
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Wins today if her last run is any indicator.
Short though.
I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Nice win. Looks to be hard to beat in The Oaks.
I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Accepted for Saturday - anyone know if she will run?

Keen to back another in the race but won't if she's there.
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At this stage she is running.
Then she’ll go straight to the Oaks.

Weiry will make final call Friday morning
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She will need to improve from last week to win here, there are some good quality males here!
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Really, Why is she running here ?




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Trainer said the other day he had 3 options

Option 1 - run this weekend at MV then go to the Oaks
option 2 - run in the wakeful and then the Oaks
Option 3 - go straight the Oaks and hope she’s fit enough.

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I wouldn't run her against Aramayo, and its not like she needs the run. He will account for that field with relative ease. 
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What’s with option 3 - don’t run and hope she’s fit enough?

A top class trainer shouldn’t be just hoping she’s fit enough. He should have a meticulous training work schedule mapped to ensure that she is fit enough on Oaks day. Most fitness is achieved by what is done on the training track, not on race days.
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She’s very laid back at home, racing fitness brings her on.
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Wouldn’t be surprised if she comes out. Aramayo the one to beat but he’s been up a while into his first prep. Wonder if he’d still be here if he won the Spring Champions. Looking around those two really liked the run of Real Success last time. Hopefully can give this a shake at double figure odds.
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Wouldn’t be surprised if she runs.

Expect she may welll back up.
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wont run. saved for next week 

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DK still undecided. More than likely will run I feel tho. He loves to back them up and they generally respond very well. 

I'm a massive fan tho and very happy with a few multi's into the Oaks with her. 
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Originally posted by Gee Gee Gee Gee wrote:

wont run. saved for next week 

lay up lads



Reckon u could be right.
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Weiry on RSN this morning, says he hasn’t Karen up his mind yet.
At this stage leaning to scratching
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Made*. Why did that change to my wife’s name
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Scratched about 20 mins ago
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Super return.
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