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Gay3
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He's had no practice racing on a heavy track with a mdn win on the slow from 2 tries but what is 'slow' in Japanese terminology?
1st of 8 KYTO 20Oct13 1800m Soft 2Y MDN-SW $146,898 ($76,738) Yutaka Take 55kg Barrier 4 2nd River Soul (JPN) 55kg 1:52.60, 0.3L $1.60 5th of 12 RAND 11Apr15 2000m Soft7 QUEEN ELIZ Group 1 $4,085,750 ($100,000) Tommy Berry 58.5kg Barrier 11 Rtg 112 1st Criterion (NZ) 59kg, 2nd Red Cadeaux (GB) 59kg 2:05.35 (600m 37.00), 5.5L, 4th@800m, 4th@400m, $7/$9/$9 I'm fairly certain Sunday Silence line handle heavy but no idea re. the rest of his breeding tho' he does have 2 lines of Mr P well back. How desperate are they for a run? Sydney has to be doubtful to some degree. Is this his Grand Final (Sydney)? If yes I guess they take the punt Were I connections I'd opt for Melb. fwiw Edited by Gay3 - 15 Mar 2017 at 11:07am |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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3blindmice
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James
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Jockey booked for Sydney but not Melbourne?
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SkyDancer
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Ben Allen down for Melbourne
Craig Willliams in Sydney |
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SkyDancer
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GF is the Doncaster, that looks likely to be run in the wet (as we all know it's always wet in Sydney)
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James
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Cheers SD I didn't see that.
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3blindmice
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Sorry, my mind must be playing tricks because I can't find what I thought I saw anywhere ^^^. Possibly power of suggestion? Delete all reference unless someone actually finds the illusory comment.
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Gay3
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Likely on an individual horse thread running in either the Melb or Sydney race it's what seems to happen a lot.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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The Gooch
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Hoping he stays in Mebourne as I am on at $3.50. Should improve 2nd up out to 1600m and gets a 4kg swing for a nose defeat to Black Heart Bart. One of my better bets of the day.
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Hurdyman
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No travel booked yet decision made in morning
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Delta Deel
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Running in Melbourne
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Sunline
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I'm an unabashed Bart fan, but I have had a large bet on Tosen Stardom in the Blamey. He will be winning and this is his prep provided the wet doesn't destroy his chances in Sydney.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Magnolian Khan
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Smart move avoiding the wet and Winx. I've taken a straight trifecta
Tosen, BHB, Palentino |
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Sunline
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Best placed horse in Australia all weekend.
All over him.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Sneck
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Sunline
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I actually think the prices, at their biggest gap, were no different to what you'd expect at WFA. He got done by a nose at level weights when first up and underdone against a peaking Bart.
Now Tosen Stardom improves with fitness and up to 1600m. It's also run at Flemington which takes a small edge away from Bart. I really don't think enough allowance was made in the prices for the weights and only now we're seeing the gap start to close.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Breeding Above All
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If he was 3rd up I would be all over him.. 2nd up over that distance never sits well..
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Magnolian Khan
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2nd up Syndome?
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TheCat
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I'm not dropping off just yet. Ridden upside down and a bit keen in the run. A quiet ride with a bit more speed on in the Doncaster should suit.
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"A dollar won is twice as sweet as a dollar earned."
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Magnolian Khan
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That was the word from the stable. Still getting fit and being trained for a tough run in Sydney |
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Red Hare
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I'd be getting off. He's got panels to make up on Le Romain. |
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SYT
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Good call. |
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VOYAGER
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While the Doncaster is shaping as a good field, if the winner does not come from this guy, Le Romain, Hauraki or the lightweight Silent Sedition I would be surprised.
Hayes has done it in the Newmarket, so maybe Redkirk Warrior but it would, be the unheard of to make history twice in a prep. |
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3blindmice
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PWebster's horse might have something to say about that Voyager.
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SHOVHOG
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Weir tipped Palentino to beat Tosem to anyone who would listen.
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Tlazolteotl
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Really? That surprises me. I had the impression that the money follows the stable opinion with Weir horses. |
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TheCat
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Is the Doncaster the confirmed target for Silent Sedition? I thought they may have gone to the Queen of the Turf.
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Magnolian Khan
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I heard him say that Tosen would need the run and Palentino is a track specialist and was his e/w best of the day |
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TheCat
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Silent Sedition dual nommed for Friday night at the Valley. I assume she'll run in one of those? Which you'd think she'd be unlikely to back up into the Doncaster.
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