Tosen Stardom

He's had no practice racing on a heavy track with a mdn win on the slow from 2 tries but what is 'slow' in Japanese terminology?

1st of 8 KYTO 20Oct13 1800m Soft 2Y MDN-SW $146,898 ($76,738) Yutaka Take 55kg Barrier 4
2nd River Soul (JPN) 55kg 1:52.60, 0.3L $1.60

5th of 12 RAND 11Apr15 2000m Soft7 QUEEN ELIZ Group 1 $4,085,750 ($100,000) Tommy Berry 58.5kg Barrier 11 Rtg 112
1st Criterion (NZ) 59kg, 2nd Red Cadeaux (GB) 59kg 2:05.35 (600m 37.00), 5.5L, 4th@800m, 4th@400m, $7/$9/$9

I'm fairly certain Sunday Silence line handle heavy but no idea re. the rest of his breeding tho' he does have 2 lines of Mr P well back.

How desperate are they for a run? Sydney has to be doubtful to some degree.
Is this his Grand Final (Sydney)? If yes I guess they take the punt
Were I connections I'd opt for Melb. fwiw


Edited by Gay3 - 15 Mar 2017 at 11:07am

Jockey booked for Sydney but not Melbourne?

GF is the Doncaster, that looks likely to be run in the wet (as we all know it's always wet in Sydney)

3blindmice wrote: SkyDancer wrote: Anyone got the inside word on which state he runs this weekend? Dual acceptor. Someone suggested he was staying in Melb in another thread. Seems logical on two fronts, both starting with a W.

Hoping he stays in Mebourne as I am on at $3.50. Should improve 2nd up out to 1600m and gets a 4kg swing for a nose defeat to Black Heart Bart. One of my better bets of the day.

Running in Melbourne

Smart move avoiding the wet and Winx. I've taken a straight trifecta
Tosen, BHB, Palentino

Sunline wrote: Best placed horse in Australia all weekend. All over him.

I don't like the set weights, every will call him a weighted special and he'll start much shorter than we would have got at WFA.

If he was 3rd up I would be all over him.. 2nd up over that distance never sits well..

I'm not dropping off just yet. Ridden upside down and a bit keen in the run. A quiet ride with a bit more speed on in the Doncaster should suit.

Magnolian Khan wrote: TheCat wrote: I'm not dropping off just yet. Ridden upside down and a bit keen in the run. A quiet ride with a bit more speed on in the Doncaster should suit. That was the word from the stable. Still getting fit and being trained for a tough run in Sydney

Might've been worth having a tough run in Sydney then.

I'd be getting off. He's got panels to make up on Le Romain.

While the Doncaster is shaping as a good field, if the winner does not come from this guy, Le Romain, Hauraki or the lightweight Silent Sedition I would be surprised.

Hayes has done it in the Newmarket, so maybe Redkirk Warrior but it would, be the unheard of to make history twice in a prep.

VOYAGER wrote: While the Doncaster is shaping as a good field, if the winner does not come from this guy, Le Romain, Hauraki or the lightweight Silent Sedition I would be surprised. Hayes has done it in the Newmarket, so maybe Redkirk Warrior but it would, be the unheard of to make history twice in a prep.

Good Horses RE ~ WRITE history 

SHOVHOG wrote: Weir tipped Palentino to beat Tosem to anyone who would listen.

Really? That surprises me. I had the impression that the money follows the stable opinion with Weir horses.

Tlazolteotl wrote: SHOVHOG wrote: Weir tipped Palentino to beat Tosem to anyone who would listen. Really? That surprises me. I had the impression that the money follows the stable opinion with Weir horses.

I heard him say that Tosen would need the run and Palentino is a track specialist and was his e/w best of the day