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Same prostate surgery, complications for many but still better than  the big complication 
    
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I read somewhere that there is no study done in the last 30 years that found a significant life extension, on average, from bypass surgery, compared to less invasive therapies. Statins and blood pressure drugs have made a huge difference.
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To think that FDR expired from a stroke, in his sixties, from his high blood pressure, for which there was no remedy available at the time. Medical science has made great strides, but not with some pesky viruses !
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Trump has declared by tweet that he is suspending all immigration into the USA by executive order.

With cases approaching a greatly understated 800,000 and 42,500 dead souls, one can only presume the ban is to prevent people entering the country and becoming victims of the virus ridden joint.

Is America great yet?


    
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I read somewhere that there is no study done in the last 30 years that found a significant life extension, on average, from bypass surgery, compared to less invasive therapies. Statins and blood pressure drugs have made a huge difference.

Would tend to disagree with your unnamed source Max.  Statins and blood pressure drugs essentially address illnesses such as hypertension, diabetes and heart disease, whereas bypass surgery has a rather wider purpose.

And I'm a case in point some years ago, with continual headaches and sub standard vision in one eye over a period of time, ultimately diagnosed as a serious blockage of the carotid artery which takes blood from the heart to the head.  Bypass surgery was the only option according to the three physicians or surgeons that were consulted.  

Unfortunately for many here the operation was a complete success.

ps post operative I awoke about 1am in the morning with a small headache and a huge swelling around the neck region. But what I remember most was the unmistakable sound of the rostered doctor and one of the nursing staff engaging in sexual congress a couple of beds away.  Thankfully the drapes were drawn.
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Coronary bypass surgery, SC.
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They do quite a few stenting of arteries , Including carotid, coronary.
Mine failed so I had Mammary artery bypass , 3 months later ( now the preferred option ).
I haven't got much that works , the feet numb , The plumbing crippled , knees ,hips , Back,   and I'm not into the motor yet.
I give myself B12 injections every month . and space my tablets over approx 5 doses a day to assist absorbtion. Celiac disease doesn't help , along with Thyroid.
   I stopped taking Viagra .   No point having a car with no where to park it.
BTW . strokes during surgery are quite often caused by Blood pressure going so low, areas of the brain are starved of oxygen. >Plaque , blood clots also contribute to Ischemic strokes.
Apart from a few other ills , I've given up playing Rugby league , for a few more months.
Sound like PT and I had a similar mis spent youth.      . Crabs have been experienced but the kerosene scalded the "no go " area. Thankfully more modern creams are more humane these days .
All I need now is to test the Sars 2 , to gauge my state of health.
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Nice to see you follow Preisdent Trump on Twitter PT
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Strange comment Tigg.
    
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Strange comment Tigg.

Tiger, posted that because you posted one of Trump’s tweets , a rational assumption by Tiger, don’t you think?
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Only if you choose to exist in an echo chamber and block out anything you dont agree with. Makes you more susceptible to brain washing or gaslighting, don't you think Bob? 
 

I prefer to read and watch all arguments. I also follow his son, True Pundit, Qanon surrogates Fox News and all manner of nutjob. 
    
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Speaking of nutjobs. 

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says 'there are more important things than living' to justify reopening the state's economy

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  • Texas’ Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said “there are some things more important than living” as a justification for the state moving ahead with reopening businesses starting next week.
  • “I don’t want to die- nobody wants to die – but, man, we’ve got to take some risks and get back in the game and get this country back up and running,” Patrick said.
  • Texas, which has over 19,000 reported cases of COVID-19 and 495 deaths from the disease, is gradually reopening the state and its economy beginning April 24.
  • A number of surveys conducted in the past week also found that a far greater percentage of Americans are concerned that the US would make the outbreak worse by moving to reopen too soon.
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Because fake numbers, fake scientists....

The governor also claimed that policymakers had “the wrong numbers and the wrong science” because the total number of deaths was below what some models initially projected.
    
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And this. Barr to sue states trying to protect their citizens...

Barr Threatens Legal Action Against Governors Over Lockdowns

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Only if you choose to exist in an echo chamber and block out anything you dont agree with. Makes you more susceptible to brain washing or gaslighting, don't you think Bob? . . .  
That is too too funny coming from you. The Prince of Bias rants against narrow mindedness.   
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Can you read Shammy?
    
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Hey Shammy, the Trump economy is not worth more than your life Please ignore what these MAGA lunatics are telling you to do. 

All that will happen if things get too bad is that Goldman Sachs, the Kocks and the Mar a Lago oligarchs will have to make cutbacks and retrench a few dozen Republican Congressmen from their payrolls.

Tough times tough measures.
 
    
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What's the most critical thing Shammy has ever written about the great leader?Wink

I will prepare myself for a shock.

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If 45,000 totally unnecessary deaths wont sway you nothing will.
    
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PT: You are really too too funny. Don't kid us. You have never been open to any thoughts or ideas you disagree with. We all know you are trolling for something to use negatively in your posts.
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Have I ever denied not thinking this clown is even moderately competent or sane?
    
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It is becoming obvious that Trump being careful and not over reacting , will serve the USA better than the "destroy" the economy in a few weeks ,
Just in case.   Like some other Countries chose to do.

“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”
    He meant Australia's economy.
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Hey Shammy, is America great again yet? If not, how long will it take?
    
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

It is becoming obvious that Trump being careful and not over reacting , will serve the USA better than the "destroy" the economy in a few weeks ,
Just in case.   Like some other Countries chose to do.

“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”
    He meant Australia's economy.

Have you bailed on Team SloMo maxie?
    
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NO ....   Like Trump , Scomo had to consult his medical team and make a decision.
We won't know for some time who pulled the right reign ,   and it will be wrong to blame either one personally.

If you want 5 different answers --- ask 5 GP's what they think is wrong with you.
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The people out of work as a result of the pandemic, in the USA, is pretty well in proportion with Australia, they are still in a very active phase of infection, with 25,000 new cases per day, so not placed as well as Australia to be relaxing restrictions. It remains to be seen if Australia does not get a winter upsurge, though.
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Interesting though maxie that everyone is using the same remedy...stimulus to save jobs to shorten the recovery.

I am old enough to remember....

When it is serious enough even ideologues have to bite their tongues. Will be interesting though, should this be relative smooth, the trickle downers exit strategy from common sense back to their bizarre positions of gross inequality.
    
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Unlike SARS-CoV-2, which is the virus that causes COVID-19, HIV ... In fact, a 25-year-old was more likely to die from the Spanish flu than ... The pandemic came in two waves, with the second being more deadly than the first
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I expect that could be due to the different treatments for fever in 1918/19
and the more modern diagnostic / medical know how , of today.

   An incredible and destructive experience for our world.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If 45,000 totally unnecessary deaths wont sway you nothing will.

So every death in America was unnecessary
Nothing like a PT grossly dishonest post to get people into his side of thinking
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

NO ....   Like Trump , Scomo had to consult his medical team and make a decision.
We won't know for some time who pulled the right reign ,   and it will be wrong to blame either one personally.

If you want 5 different answers --- ask 5 GP's what they think is wrong with you.


Come on mate, you can’t express a balance view like that. 

PT can you help with with some tips on being over the top & disingenuous 🤪
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    Disingenuous .    What race .

Now I know , Spot on but I couldn't spell it , let alone know what it meant.
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