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    Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 1:45pm

MOODY EXPERIMENT OFF TO A FLYING START

June 18, 2019 4:12 pm

Former champion trainer now bloodstock specialist come media personality Peter Moody was all smiles on Tuesday as the first stage of a three-year European experiment paid off.

In 2017 Moody paid 22,000 guineas for a foal by Kendargent from the Gold Away mare Vital Body at the 2016 Tattersalls Foal Sale, and on Tuesday at Ballarat that horse – now named Caffrey – won on debut for trainer David Brideoake.

“Most people buy the tried horses out of Europe and more are looking at their yearlings now, but I wanted to try a bit of experiment and buy some of their foals,” Moody explained.

“I bought six – the Kendargent, two Sea The Stars, a Camelot, Champs Elysee, and a Big Bad Bob. This bloke (Caffrey) is the most forward of them so far but they are all big strong horses, it just comes down to ability now as it always does.”

The most that Moody paid for any of the foals was 70,000 guineas for a Camelot x Mohican Princess filly which is a half-sister to two European Group 3 winners; even with a strong pedigree the most expensive of Moody’s sextet cost just a fraction of the cost of tried horses that are currently being imported from Europe to Australia.

“That was the idea, to see how the young ones would cope out here. To see how they grow out and develop under our conditions,” he said.

“So far so good, but let’s see how these other ones go as they get to the races.”

Despite doing plenty wrong, Caffrey was a 3.25L winner of the 1200m Spicer Thoroughbreds maiden at Ballarat, a race he was sent out as $2.25 favourite for.

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CAFFREY (IRE)Grey colt 2016 
Kendargent
Grey 2003
Kendor
Grey 1986
Kenmare
Grey 1975
Kalamoun
Grey 1970
Zeddaan
Khairunissa
1965
1960
11-g
9-c
Belle of Ireland
Chestnut 1964
Milesian
Belle of the Ball
1953
1958
22-a
1-m
Belle Mecene
Bay 1982
Gay Mecene
Bay or brown 1975
Vaguely Noble
Gay Missile
1965
1967
1-d
3-l
Djaka Belle
Bay 1975
Djakao
Orleans Belle
1966
1967
8-c
4-n
Pax Bella
Grey 1997
Linamix
Grey 1987
Mendez
Grey 1981
Bellypha
Miss Carina
1976
1975
16-b
23-b
Lunadix
Grey 1972
Breton
Lutine
1967
1966
4-i
6-e
Palavera
Bay 1987
Bikala
Bay 1978
Kalamoun
Irish Bird
1970
1970
9-c
8-c
Paulistana
Chestnut 1980
Pretense
Near Me Now
1963
1969
3-i
4-r
Vital Body
Chestnut 2006
Gold Away
Chestnut 1995
Goldneyev
Bay or brown 1986
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Special
1961
1969
2-d
5-h
Gold River
Chestnut 1977
Riverman
Glaneuse
1969
1966
10-a
22-d
Blushing Away
Chestnut 1987
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Sweet Revenge
Chestnut 1978
Raja Baba
Away
1968
1966
3-l
1-n
Vaillante
Bay 2000
Zilzal
Chestnut 1986
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Special
1961
1969
2-d
5-h
French Charmer
Chestnut 1978
Le Fabuleux
Bold Example
1961
1969
13-c
8-h
Valverda
Bay 1984
Irish River
Chestnut 1976
Riverman
Irish Star
1969
1960
10-a
1-w
Via Venise
Bay 1973
Shoemaker
Vassilissa
1966
1968
4-n
5-h
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It didn't hurt Makybe Diva to grow up in Australia.
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I thought the main reason everyone and their dog brought in Europe, was to negate the period of time between purchase and racing, so in other words buying tried horses.

Isn't this negating that advantage?
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The articles says 2 Sea The Stars, they are in fact by his son Sea The Moon.




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Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

I thought the main reason everyone and their dog brought in Europe, was to negate the period of time between purchase and racing, so in other words buying tried horses.

Isn't this negating that advantage?



He is experimenting. Seeing how they adapt down here.





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I reckon his all up costs 'till say 4yo will be a heck of a lot less than buying any semi proven European horse of similar age. Many of these we never hear of after their 1st couple of starts & many others are lucky to win a city race, so it's certainly an experiment well worth undertaking Big smile
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People hve been paying $250k or more for a "promising" maiden winner with a Gp3 5th placing to its name.

Which is clearly nonsense, however they cover themselves by selling 80% or so at cost plus 25% to established clientele.
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The prices people are asking for tried horses anywhere in the World are ridiculous these days. Had someone quote me 300K for a provincial goat recently. 2-3 weeks earlier was quoted a similar price for a metro winner with form around a Gr1 winner. Problem is, someone will probably pay that price for the former.

Good luck to Moody with this endeavour I say
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Heard him I/viewed yesterday
Said the one that won yesterday had been here about 12 months.
Had a full prep with Weir before being spelled.

Has some with Brideoake and some with Stokes.
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Originally posted by Xavier Xavier wrote:

Heard him I/viewed yesterday
Said the one that won yesterday had been here about 12 months.
Had a full prep with Weir before being spelled.

Has some with Brideoake and some with Stokes.


Thank you. Shoulda thought to search Stokes.

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Nothing different. People have imported mares in foal and grown foals here for years, just sadly most end up back OS from the yearling auctions.
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One has one A! Race!! Wait till they all hit the track and see after 3 years? Already at least 1.5 years of cost have been spent. Self promotion at its best so far? But if he can convince enough mugs? He may fluke a nice one in the many that get tried? Who knows maybe the at Ballarat is ok? I didn't see or do form on race
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Don't get me wrong. I suppose we are all entitled to try and keep earning out of the game no matter what!!
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Race 5 - 1:51PM Moe Refrigeration Maiden Plate (1600 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $23,000.1st $12,650, 2nd $3,910, 3rd $1,840, 4th $1,035, 5th $690, 6th $575, 7th $575, 8th $575, 9th $575, 10th $575
Prize money contribution totalling 2% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution 
Maiden, Set Weights, Two-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices can claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Heavy 9 

Field Limit: 14 + 4 EM


NoLast 10HorseTrainerJockeyBarrierWeightPenaltyHcp Rating
15x0x605AT YOUR PERILBill MastersChris Symons858.5kg
284x5553x09BIODOMEMark C WebbArron Lynch (late alt)258.5kg
30x8988DISPLAY CASE (NZ)Robbie LaingJason Maskiell1058.5kg
49265548609LAHEEBBryce StanawayWill Gordon658.5kg
5SHEPARD (GB)David BrideoakeClayton Douglas758.5kg
60x08ARDENTELeigh ChildsJack Hill1156.5kg
779438x05BE MISS LUCHYCraig BlackshawZac Spain456.5kg
849x6767x97GYPSY JEANTroy KilgowerJason Baldock356.5kg
9238x639976KALEDIFrankie StockdaleMs Mikaela Claridge (a2/50kg)156.5kg
10x554635337NO EFFORTAllan CooperThomas Stockdale (a1.5/50kg)556.5kg
1139220x3633RUBYANNA JANEGary CarsonMichael Carson1256.5kg
1275x8LANDSTRASSEJames CummingsDean Holland956kg




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Shepard just pipped on the line.
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Cernan in today at Wangaratta, race 2.
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Shephard was also in that race but is scratched.
Ran okay yesterday , just missed
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Race 2 - 12:22PM Muraca Electrical Maiden Plate (1590 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $23,000.1st $12,650, 2nd $3,910, 3rd $1,840, 4th $1,035, 5th $690, 6th $575, 7th $575, 8th $575, 9th $575, 10th $575
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Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Heavy 8 

Field Limit: 14 + 4 EM

NoLast 10HorseTrainerJockeyBarrierWeightPenaltyHcp Rating
1CERNAN (GB)David BrideoakeAndrew Mallyon558.5kg
209KNOCKOUT PUNCHJohn & Chris LedgerTeodore Nugent (a0/49kg)958.5kg
3790x9092xMASTERBIGGINSPeter SmithLogan McNeil (a3/54kg)158.5kg
40x9x758PARALYZERLuke OliverJack Hill658.5kg
5432PEAINTHEPODPatrick PayneBilly Egan1258.5kg
62SHEPARD (GB)David BrideoakeJake Duffy458.5kg
78x3688x382STAR OF SEVILLEWayne NicholsCraig Robertson258.5kg
80THINK ABOUT MEBrent StanleyDylan Dunn1058.5kg
9366x6647AMICABEELCharlotte LittlefieldMs Jade Darose1456.5kg
1083x768APPLE BAYRenee HoystedMs Nikita Beriman1656.5kg
114x848ELISAVETLuke OliverMs Alana Kelly (a2/50kg)856.5kg
127x769FULL AHEADMichael Cornish & Donna GaskinJason Baldock1356.5kg
13803x40884HAYLEY’S STORMTerry MilnerStan Tsaikos1156.5kg
149x07760x50WADEEMA’S GIRLChristopher DavisLachlan King (a0/51kg)1556.5kg
15e37x77262x6AMERICANEERRobbie GriffithsHarry Coffey758.5kg
16e30x798041ANNALOVAIan Pankhurst356.5kg




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The experiment is going well. 

Cernan was impressive given he was wide throughout  but won the race comfortably when Linda asked him.  

Cernan and Caffrey are winners. Shepherd was beaten a head.  And they have only had 5 starts between them.

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I missed Caffreys second run - luckily. 




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Meech was great on this horse today imo.  Settled two out rearward, then moved out three wide as Tontonan said.  But in moving forward she flushed another out so was able to gain cover for quite some distance and let the other bring her into the race before she pulled further out to make her winning run.  Thumbs Up 
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The Stokes yard - Although these are not youngsters.





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Shepard wins today.
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Looked ok too , a bit green but sound win
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Douglas gave Virtuous a nice hip and shoulder on straightening.  Wink
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