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And a heap of people will not only be saved by just being on line at TBV, but will also learn a hell of a lot they didn't previously know or appreciate by simply following my posts.  Thumbs Up
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True. Tell you what i am seeing with this PT is the total collapse at the most basic levels. Whilst the GFC impacted financial markets , super funds ect it seemed to largely not impact people at the coal face doing business. Walk through any shopping centre in Sydney today & it is like a ghost town. Half the businesses are closed - many because it is cheaper to do so than keeping them open. The others are doing no business. Not sure how the Supermarkets get away with their workers on $20/hr working quite frankly. Very high risk - esp in the high Asian demographic areas. Got to be a few positives around for them. 
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Went to my local supermarket yesterday 2 people walking around spraying and wiping all exposed surfaces, fridge/freezer doors, vege bins counters etc. Everyone wearing masks and gloves and everyone approaching the checkout having to use the hand sanitizer, and no cash handled.

Staff have been split into 3  teams and no crossover of teams, so that if someone tests they dont lose all of their staff. The chemist is using the same staff system.
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The saviour of these kinds of welfare provisions is that cross matching of data with govt makes it harder these days to rort them, and much easier to administer, they'd have algorithms that find outliers that are attempting to game the system.
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One of my partner's cousins found that out not long ago Max.  

Six months in Beechworth and ordered to pay back plenty.Though in all truth I don't fancy the Government's chances of getting too much of the plenty.
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Actually Max lack of that system is preventing payments flowing in America. They have the same stimulus packages but their If you haven't lodged your last tax return or you dont have electronic transfers or are homeless with no bank the only way to pay people is by writing cheques. They are using 1700 different banks to distribute the funds but they, having gutted Treasury had nobody to work with the banks to sort out the distribution and legals around no refusal small business loans. People are going to be waiting for their relief payments till August by best estimate.

This crisis is showing up what a backwater that joint really is. 
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August ? Even the Trump faithful will drop off by then !
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The sheer size of the "soft" economy, that which isn't really based around essential services, but largely on discretionary spending, is what will make this a big hit, years ago this sector was way smaller.
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    Novartis, Mylan and Teva to supply tens of millions of chloroquine tablets to fight COVID-19
    by Eric Sagonowsky
    Mar 20, 2020 12:47pm

well surprise surprise.

Novartis is the Swiss pharmaceutical company that hired Michael Cohen in the transition period as an "advisor" to interface with Trump for $1.2 million USD.

    Trump ex-lawyer Cohen: drugmaker Novartis wanted him to lobby, he refused
    Sarah N. Lynch, Doina Chiacu
    February 27, 2019 / 12:06 PM

So it appears that either Michael Cohen did lobby for that drug company or they found another back channel to Trump and the cash flowed. It appears that Rudy Giuliani has also been pushing this drug extremely hard. Who are his connections to this company Novartis?

BTW it also appears when Trump was in Davos on January 22nd 2020, Trump had a private dinner with the CEO of Novartis Vas Narasimhan & Bayer CEO Werner Baumann. Both manufacture hydroxychloroquine. WOW coincidence?


To add insult to injury, Dr. Fauci of the National Institute of Health got into a yelling argument with White House Peter Navarro (Assistant to the President, Director of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, and as the national Defense Production Act policy coordinator) during a White House covid-19 task force meeting on Sunday. By the way Navarro is also pushing this drug extremely hard, thus he may be the new benefactor of Novartis personal cash payments or other nefarious benefits.

    Scoop: Inside the epic White House fight over hydroxychloroquine
    Jonathan Swan
    2020-04-05

In the Press Briefing after this meeting, Fauci was asked about his medical opinion of the effectiveness of the hydroxychloroquine drug for treatment of covid-19 by reporters and before he could answer, Trump cut him off and barred him from answering that question.

Anyways Novartis' shares are skyrocketing

    Novartis Trends as Trump Accused of Pushing Unproven Use of Hydroxychloroquine Made by Pharmaceutical Company
    By Brendan Cole
    On 4/6/20 at 8:16 AM EDT

Now I would be remiss if I did not check how this one firm is connected to the Russians -- lone behold there is a connection.

    Novartis plans to increase use of its flagship Russian plant
    20-01-2020

yes, Novartis is increasing production of drugs in it's St Petersburg plant (in the St Petersburg economic zone) by 4X, mostly drugs produced/owned by Novartis and with 20 different types of drugs. Notice the date of the article.

Now here is another Russian connection -- aka Russian Oligarch Viktor Vekselberg -- had met Michael Cohen at Trump Tower on the 26th floor (note Cohen's office is on the same floor as Trump's office). Vekselberg is deeply connected to Putin & the Kremlin.

    Russian oligarch met with Michael Cohen at Trump Tower during transition
    By Shimon Prokupecz, Kara Scannell and Jeremy Herb, CNN
    Updated 1:01 AM ET, Sat May 26, 2018

There are videos in January 2017 of Viktor Vekselberg & Andrew Intrater of Columbus Nova at Trump Tower lobby. They had gone up the elevators for a 27 minute meeting. It was reportedly to improve Russia-USA relations. BTW Andrew Intrater also paid Cohen $580k USD in consulting fees. BTW Intrater also donated $300k to Trump's Inauguration fund and $35k to Trump's Victory Fund.

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    Viktor Vekselberg

    Columbus Nova (Andrew Intrater)

Vekselberg is also connected to Deripaska & Blavatnik wrt to the aluminum plant being constructed in Kentucky (Mitch McConnel's state) that is using Rusal Aluminum exclusively when Trump lifted sanctions against Rusal and laid tarif's against all foreign aluminum except from Russia. Follow the money.

Here they talk about the connection between Novartis and Columbus Nova -- which previously listed as a subsidiary of Vekselberg's Renova Group)..

    Drugmaker's ties with Michael Cohen more extensive than detailed, report says
    By ADAM CANCRYN and SARAH KARLIN-SMITH
    07/13/2018 12:55 PM EDT

Novartis was allegedly working on derailing Trump's election promises of reducing drug prices. Novartis allegedly also invested in a Columbus Nova pharmaceutical company Yamo.

This is only a first stab at the interconnections but there are way too many of them connecting hydroxychloroquine & Trump & Novartis & Vekselberg & Russian money.

Follow the money.

There is way more to this Trump of peddling the hydroxychloroquine drug.
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Oh Brudder, yeah, Trump became President, just because he wanted to make a few bucks, must have predicted the Coronavirus outbreak.
With all the profits he might make, heck, he could even become President of the United States.
Oh wait, he already is.
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Trump had NOTHING to do with the French finding, that Hydroxychloroquine cures Covid.
Trump also has NOTHING to do with my friend in Melbourne who has verified it is indeed the best cure.

Do you have any idea how many thousands of companies and people, Trump has been involved with over the years?
Thats WHY he got elected President, Americans wanted someone with a network in business.

Thousands of Virologists have now confirmed its the number one cure and they have nothing to do with the manufacturer.
Hungary is one of the worlds biggest manufacturers of Hydroxychloroquine and Hungary has banned exporting it.
Trump cant even get a cent out of Hungary.


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It appears a Monday night NY Times article saw that Trump Family is receiving financial compensation from another hydroxychloroquine manufacturer.

    Trump's Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronavirus Divides Medical Community
    While Dr. Anthony Fauci has urged caution in using hydroxychloroquine, some doctors are prescribing it to patients who have the virus despite the fact it has never been tested for it.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-malaria-drug.html
    By Peter Baker, Katie Rogers, David Enrich and Maggie Haberman
    April 6, 2020

The president himself, has a financial interest in Sanofi, the French pharmaceutical company that manufactures the drug under the brand Plaquenil.

To quote the article:

"Some associates of Mr. Trump's have financial interests in the issue. Sanofi's largest shareholders include Fisher Asset Management, the mutual fund company run by Ken Fisher, a major donor to Republicans, including Mr. Trump," said the report. "Another investor in both Sanofi and Mylan, another pharmaceutical firm, is Invesco, the fund previously run by Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary. As of last year, Mr. Trump reported that his three family trusts each had investments in a Dodge & Cox mutual fund, whose largest holding was in Sanofi."

That by definition is corruption and why the President's finances & taxes need to be exposed.

There still is the issue of Deutsche Bank, and it's bail out of Trump thru not the Commercial Loans Division but thru the Investment Bank Division which is infamous for it's Russian Money Laundering.

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It doesn't get much sadder than the Trump Deranged implying that the Leader of The Free World is just trying to make some money out of this ... TDS is doing a lot more to fcuk people up than any China Virus ever could hope to ... and there will never be a cure for the poor hateful useful idiots.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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I thought Scotty From Marketing was Leader of the Free World, particularly with Bonking Boris laid low and full of the hydroxycloroquine Donny sold him at mate's rates.  Shocked
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I wonder why the shares in health insurance companies in the US are rising ?
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For the full story see: https://www.worldhealth.net/news/official-statement-china-recommended-treatment-covid-19/

I am pretty sure Korea had added Vit D3 to the patients as well.

 

Confirming the reports from small independent studies and 3 clinical trials, Shanghai has announced a recommendation to use high dose intravenous treatment of vitamin C to treat COVID-19, according to the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service. 

The announced official recommendation that COVID-19 should be treated with high doses of intravenous vitamin C come as welcomed news as the virus continues to spread. The dosage recommendation will vary with the severity of illness ranging from 50-200 milligrams per kilogram body weight per day to as much as 16,000 mg/kg/day.

The doses are ranging from approximately 4,000 to 16,000 mgs for an adult which is administered by an IV. Atsuo Yanagisawa, MD, PhD who is President of the Japanese College of Intravenous Therapy states that this specific method of administration is very important because vitamin C’s effects are at least 10 times more powerful when taken by IV rather than orally, and that “Intravenous vitamin C is a safe, effective, and broad-spectrum antiviral.”

Richard Z. Cheng, MD, PhD is the associate director for the clinical trials. We are proud to say that Dr. Cheng is a Fellow and board certified anti-aging physician by the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine (A4M) as well as being a Fellow and board certified A4M Integrative Cancer Therapy.  Dr. Cheng has been working closely with medical and government authorities through China and has been instrumental in facilitating at least 3 of the clinical IV vitamin C studies in China. Despite most of his work being sensored and blocked by most media Dr. Cheng has been trying to bring this information to the public and will continue his efforts to encourage more hospitals to implement IV vitamin C therapy along with high doses of oral vitamin C as well. Additionally, both Dr. Cheng and Dr. Yanagisawa recommend oral vitamin C for prevention of COVID-19. 

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Vit C has been the miracle cure for everything for a generation.

No supplements do the job,      .If only it was that easy
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Perhaps we are not hearing this across main stream channels, after all, Big Pharma can't make money from an accessible treatment that has been around for 90 years.
It may not be the be all but certainly a good adjunctive therapy and preventative of the severity of  the virus if taken regularly.
Further in this study reads as follows Macca, some proof in this -
 
people from coronaviral pandemics (SARS, MERS and now NCP). ARDS is a common final pathway leading to death.

The official statement from Xi’an Jiaotong University Second Hospital reads: 

“On the afternoon of February 20, 2020, another 4 patients with severe new coronaviral pneumonia recovered from the C10 West Ward of Tongji Hospital. In the past 8 patients have been discharged from hospital. . . [H]igh-dose vitamin C achieved good results in clinical applications. We believe that for patients with severe neonatal pneumonia and critically ill patients, vitamin C treatment should be initiated as soon as possible after admission. . .[E]arly application of large doses of vitamin C can have a strong antioxidant effect, reduce inflammatory responses, and improve endothelial function. . . Numerous studies have shown that the dose of vitamin C has a lot to do with the effect of treatment. . . [H]gh-dose vitamin C can not only improve antiviral levels, but more importantly, can prevent and treat acute lung injury (ALI) and acute respiratory distress (ARDS).”

The protocol from the Chinese government can be read here, they are not blocking this news. 

Then why are we not hearing more about this on the news when you can find it published online in many places, it does make one wonder. But this can be corrected at any time by people sharing the news, we have included various links that will take you to the information including the clinical trials. 

To be blunt not sharing or withholding information from the public of potential treatments should be seen as negligence. Vitamin C is not new, it is available, and has been proven and used as an antiviral since the 1930s(1). Vitamin C has been injected at high doses since the 1940s(2), and has been used for influenza, SARS, and viral pneumonia in the decades since then(3). 

“At my hospital in Daegu, South Korea, all inpatients and all staff members have been using vitamin C orally since last week. Some people this week had a mild fever, headaches and coughs, and those who had symptoms got 30,000 mg intravenous vitamin C. Some people got better after about two days, and most had symptoms go away after one injection.” (Hyoungjoo Shin, M.D.)

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Hello Hello,    Vit C to the rescue again.    Delusional since some Dr made an announcement some 20 years ago.
   Fizzled out eventually but I guess the Dr made plenty.

   Forget it ..   Nothing is that easy.
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Honey and ‘magic seeds’ slashes COVID death rate by about 75 percent: landmark trial

Written By: Sayer Ji, Founder

A new study found a daily dose of healing honey and "magical" Nigella sativa seeds slashed COVID recovery time, hospital stays, and mortality rates by 4-fold versus placebo or ~75%.

Since the WHO declared COVID-19 a global pandemic in March 2020, the world has urgently needed safe, effective, accessible treatments beyond vaccines to combat the ongoing crisis.1 But most antiviral drug candidates have proven disappointing so far, with limited efficacies, concerning side effects, and prohibitive costs that restrict global access.2 

Due to this problem, researchers have increasingly probed traditional herbal remedies as safe, economical solutions against morbidity and mortality attributed to viral infections like COVID-19. Now, exciting new clinical findings from Pakistan suggest that age-old healing honey combined with the aspiring “magical seeds” of Nigella sativa -- known traditionally as the "remedy for everything but death" -- dramatically beat placebo at saving COVID lives.3 

In this rigorous double-blinded, randomized, placebo-controlled trial, 313 COVID-positive adults with moderate or severe disease were provided either a daily mix of natural honey and Nigella sativa or an inactive placebo for 13 days along with standard care.4 The tested black cumin seeds contain thymoquinone, which has performed well on influenza patients in past studies.5 And honey boasts proven broad-spectrum antimicrobial action against respiratory viruses.6

The doses used in the study were:

  • Honey: 1 gm per kg body weight per day (e.g. a 150 lb person would consume 4.25 grams a day, or about 2/3rd a teaspoon worth of honey a day)
  • Nigella sativa seeds: 80 mg per kg body weight per day (e.g. a 150 lb person would consume 340 milligrams a day)

Compared to placebo, this sweet bee nectar and tiny “magic seed” combo revealed the following key clinical results: 

  • Alleviation of COVID-19 symptoms occurred around 50% faster with honey + Nigella sativa versus placebo (4 days vs 7 days for moderate cases; 6 days vs 13 days for severe cases)
  • Viral clearance was around 4 days faster with honey + Nigella sativa versus placebo based on PCR tests becoming negative
  • In moderate cases, 64% resumed normal activities at day 6 with honey + Nigella sativa versus only 11% with placebo
  • In severe cases, 50% were discharged from the hospital at day 6 with honey + Nigella sativa versus only 3% with placebo
  • Mortality rate was 4 times lower with honey + Nigella sativa versus placebo in severe cases (4% vs 19%)
  • No adverse effects were observed with the honey + Nigella sativa combination

This landmark study demonstrates that while rushed mRNA jabs flounder with tremendous pitfalls, nature’s ancient gifts bring safer, cheaper and more effective relief to those suffering.

Even if a safe and effective vaccine existed for COVID-19, for logistcal and financial reasons they would likely still remain out of reach for much of the developing world. In light of this, honey and and Nigella sativa could save thousands more vulnerable lives if research like this was more widely known, competing as it does with pharmaceutical interests.7 

Global health authorities should fast-track further gold-standard investigations into these traditional, cost-effective adjuvants against what has been largely billed as humanity’s greatest modern threat.8

When it comes to the supposed aim of international health authorities at defeating COVID-19, honey and “magic seeds” show ancient food-based healing traditions may still remain indispensable in preserving the health and well-being of our species, now, and long into the future.

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Douglas Sayer Ji is the founder of alternative medicine portal GreenMedInfo, a website known for promoting various pseudoscientific publications. He was identified in 2020 as one of the largest promoters of COVID-19 misinformation on social media. Wikipedia
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Linus Pauling was the vitamin C guy. Which goes to show that even genius level scientists can be stupid when they get out of their lane. Particularly if it happens when they are old, which I have noticed, is usually when it happens.Tongue
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Well, that’s fine to dismiss the bloke but what about the study. Any info, publicly on that?
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Excess Death Rates for Republican and Democratic Registered Voters in Florida and Ohio During the COVID-19 Pandemic

JAMA Intern Med. 2023;183(9):916-923. doi:10.1001/jamainternmed.2023.1154
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Question  Was political party affiliation a risk factor associated with excess mortality during the COVID-19 pandemic in Florida and Ohio?

Findings  In this cohort study evaluating 538 159 deaths in individuals aged 25 years and older in Florida and Ohio between March 2020 and December 2021, excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults, but not before. These differences were concentrated in counties with lower vaccination rates, and primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio.

Meaning  The differences in excess mortality by political party affiliation after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults suggest that differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republican and Democratic voters may have been a factor in the severity and trajectory of the pandemic in the US.

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Importance  There is evidence that Republican-leaning counties have had higher COVID-19 death rates than Democratic-leaning counties and similar evidence of an association between political party affiliation and attitudes regarding COVID-19 vaccination; further data on these rates may be useful.

Objective  To assess political party affiliation and mortality rates for individuals during the initial 22 months of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Design, Setting, and Participants  A cross-sectional comparison of excess mortality between registered Republican and Democratic voters between March 2020 and December 2021 adjusted for age and state of voter registration was conducted. Voter and mortality data from Florida and Ohio in 2017 linked to mortality records for January 1, 2018, to December 31, 2021, were used in data analysis.

Exposures  Political party affiliation.

Main Outcomes and Measures  Excess weekly deaths during the COVID-19 pandemic adjusted for age, county, party affiliation, and seasonality.

Results  Between January 1, 2018, and December 31, 2021, there were 538 159 individuals in Ohio and Florida who died at age 25 years or older in the study sample. The median age at death was 78 years (IQR, 71-89 years). Overall, the excess death rate for Republican voters was 2.8 percentage points, or 15%, higher than the excess death rate for Democratic voters (95% prediction interval [PI], 1.6-3.7 percentage points). After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, the excess death rate gap between Republican and Democratic voters widened from −0.9 percentage point (95% PI, −2.5 to 0.3 percentage points) to 7.7 percentage points (95% PI, 6.0-9.3 percentage points) in the adjusted analysis; the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters. The gap in excess death rates between Republican and Democratic voters was larger in counties with lower vaccination rates and was primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio.

Conclusions and Relevance  In this cross-sectional study, an association was observed between political party affiliation and excess deaths in Ohio and Florida after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults. These findings suggest that differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republican and Democratic voters may have been factors in the severity and trajectory of the pandemic in the US.

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As of May 2023, there had been approximately 1.1 million deaths from COVID-19 in the US.1 There is evidence that Republican-leaning counties have had higher COVID-19 death rates than Democratic-leaning counties and similar evidence of an association between political party affiliation and attitudes regarding COVID-19 vaccination, social distancing, and other mitigation strategies based on political party affiliation.2-6

Prior studies7,8 have found that Republican-leaning counties have had higher COVID-19 death rates than Democratic-leaning counties. It is unknown whether this county-level association persists at the individual level and whether it may be subject to the ecologic fallacy.9 The ecologic fallacy is the incorrect assumption that associations observed at an aggregated level (eg, a county) will be the same at the individual level. Republican-leaning and Democratic-leaning counties differ in ways other than political party affiliation,10,11 such as racial and ethnic composition, rurality, and educational levels, making it difficult to establish whether the differences in COVID-19 death rates are associated with political party affiliation or other differences in county-level characteristics. Research before the COVID-19 pandemic has also found evidence of higher death rates in Republican-leaning counties than Democratic-leaning counties.12

To assess the association between political party affiliation and excess mortality for individuals during the COVID-19 pandemic, we linked voter registration data in Florida and Ohio to mortality data at the individual level to calculate excess death rates for Republican and Democratic voters and compare excess death rates before and after vaccines became available to the full adult population.13,14 Because individual-level vaccination status was not included in the available data, we were able to assess excess death rates and vaccination rates only at the county level.

Methods
Data Source

The eMethods in Supplement 1 provides additional details of all the methods. We obtained detailed US weekly mortality data from January 1, 2018, to December 31, 2021, from Datavant, an organization that augments the Social Security Administration Death Master File with information from newspapers, funeral homes, and other sources to construct an individual-level database containing 10 325 730 deaths in the US to individuals aged 25 or older during this period. This data set, which includes deaths reported to Datavant through March 31, 2023, covers approximately 83.5% of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention death count for individuals who died at age 25 or older during the period from January 1, 2018, to December 31, 2021. Because the Datavant mortality data do not contain state identifiers, we are unable to assess data completeness in our individual study states of Florida and Ohio. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Datavant mortality data have been used in other peer-reviewed15 and publicly available16 research on excess mortality. The Yale University Institutional Review Board exempted the study from review because the data were deidentified, and reporting adheres to the Strengthening the Reporting of Observational Studies in Epidemiology (STROBE) reporting guideline.

We linked the mortality data at the individual level to 2017 Florida and Ohio voter registration files; these were the only states for which historical publicly available voter registration data were readily available. The linkage was performed from April 11 to 14, 2023. For each record, the linked data included week of death, age of deceased, county of residence, and 2017 political party affiliation. Political party affiliation in Ohio was defined by whether an individual voted in a party’s primary election within the preceding 2 calendar years; in Florida, political party affiliation was based on party registration. We excluded individuals whose political party affiliation was independent and those who were affiliated with third parties. Because COVID-19 deaths are most common at older ages,17 we included only death records for individuals who died at age 25 years or older. more


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