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    Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 3:48pm
Hi Forum,

Thought we could end this year on a happy thread. Thought we could do this in the sports forum.
Keep it clean and friendly.

1:Please list what horse you believe is the worlds greatest ever and the reason you believe that.
2:Plus, list your favourite horse ever and the reason why.
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Frankel - Because he simply is.

Too many favourites to separate - Tiny's Finito, Sharp As, Show County, Shaftesbury Avenue, Riverina Charm, Etheareal, Sunline, Might And Power. 

Too many more....  
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Leading Bounty, Zabeel, So You Think, Lonhro, 
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Can't tell you who has been the worlds best racehorse.  Too many stand out and in different eras so I just can't decide.

Favourite horse is easy.  Kingston Town was the first truly great horse I saw so he will always be my favourite.


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KT was just before my time. 
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

KT was just before my time. 



Not before my time and I have zero doubt that he’s the best I’ve ever seen
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Doubt if Winx would be anyones fav, great horse but do boring
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Can't tell you who has been the worlds best racehorse.  Too many stand out and in different eras so I just can't decide.<div id="UMS_TOOLTIP" style=": ; cursor: pointer; : 2147483647; : transparent; top: -100000px; left: -100000px;">

Favourite horse is easy.  Kingston Town was the first truly great horse I saw so he will always be my favourite.




Me too and for the same reasons. On both.
I managed to get my hands on the King once, thought about just wandering off with him...
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

KT was just before my time. 


Geez I thought you were an old codger
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I officially became an old codger at the beginning of November. Party
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The horse that left the greatest impression on me was Secretariat. His Triple Crown ending in a 31 len world record Belmont win was breathtaking.

Australian horse Kingston Town with no doubt.
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Good idea!

1. I feel pretentious even offering an opinion about the greatest ever because I'm no expert and I can only judge on ones I've seen since I got interested in racing around 1990. But from them I suppose I'd have to say it'd be out of Black Caviar, because I don't like sprint racing but she was so exciting the way she'd effortlessly burn out the others before the sprint for home even began, So You Think on sheer talent, Sunline, Better Loosen Up, and of course Frankel.
2. Makybe Diva. I saw her finish off in a country race before her winning streak began and bet on her every race after that. She won me my first quaddie one-out before anyone had heard of her, which bought be a guitar I'd always dreamed of as a young muso, and her third Melbourne Cup win is still probably my favourite racing memory - as soon as Boss had her cruising a few back on the fence I knew she'd win, and I had a big win that day for a small punter back then. That Cox Plate was pretty special too. Honours to Dunaden who I was dead certain would win and kept backing in futures markets months before the Caulfield Cup, and Super Impose because he first got me hooked on racing as a spectacle and a love for horses with character.
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I think Winx is the greatest horse the world has ever seen. I honestly believe she would win a Melbourne Cup carrying 60kg.
She could also win The Everest.
Ive never seen a horse have such a fast cadence, and so consistently.
I doubt even the likes of Enabled, could do what she does, 29 times in a row.
I also think Winx is the greatest name ever for a racehorse

My Fave horse ever is Octagonal.
The way his career panned out.
14 wins, 28 starts.
Every win just total guts.
I was at the track the day Dye took off at the 800m. There was only a few thousand people there, but it sounded like 50,000. Turned around to see grown men crying.
Occy just cut thru people.
Was all about courage.

Octagonal, which is 8, was born on the 8th of October and died the 15th of October. a few decades later. Found that strange too. There was something spiritual about Octagonal.
He didnt do too good at stud, but Lonhro is the best looking horse Ive ever seen.
The loudest Ive ever heard a crowd roar, was when Lonhro won the George Ryder. The whole place rumbled. It was louder than Makybe Diva's 3rd Cup.
I was jammed in the crowd at Rosehill, and it was actually deafening the roar. It was as though 40,000 people put their house on him
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Winx obviously , 3 of her Cox Plate wins , were all run faster than any of Kingston Town's or any other CP winners.
29 straight speaks for itself.
In order , with nothing much really separating them , Tulloch , Kingston Town , then Northerly an Co.
   
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Secretariat produced the greatest effort even seen on a racetrack.

Best performance I've ever seen live was Might and Power's Queen Elizabeth win.

Takeover Target is an unparalleled rags to riches story for both horse and trainer. Nothing comes close as long as I've been following racing. He'd have to be my favorite horse.
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Frankel best ever.

Kingston Town best I saw race
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Originally posted by Sneck Sneck wrote:

Secretariat produced the greatest effort even seen on a racetrack.  Best performance I've ever seen live was Might and Power's Queen Elizabeth win.  Takeover Target is an unparalleled rags to riches story for both horse and trainer. Nothing comes close as long as I've been following racing. He'd have to be my favorite horse.  

Joe Janiak's stables in Queanbeyan were just up from Brian Callaghan's where ours were trained at the time.  Most would know that Joe was a true battler, but believe me his set-up back then was Basic 101 including his own accommodation which was an aged caravan.  But a marvelous character and great to see he had his moment in the sun.

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Winx is the best ever for mine, longevity is a part of it for also and look how many races she's won multiple times in adition to the Cox Plates, 3 x George Ryder, 3 x Chipping Norton, 3 x George Main, sure to make that 4 of the first 2 and a 3rd Queen Elizabeth in the autumn.

Fav horse Zipping, he was just so honest, could have perhaps won a Group 1 earlier with another owner but wouldn't have had the long career he did perhaps including winning the 4 strait classics.
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Winx is the best ever for mine, longevity is a part of it for also and look how many races she's won multiple times in adition to the Cox Plates, 3 x George Ryder, 3 x Chipping Norton, 3 x George Main, sure to make that 4 of the first 2 and a 3rd Queen Elizabeth in the autumn.

Fav horse Zipping, he was just so honest, could have perhaps won a Group 1 earlier with another owner but wouldn't have had the long career he did perhaps including winning the 4 strait classics.

Zipping was the most under-rated horse of the modern era in my opinion.
He didnt have a turn of foot, but just so very honest.
In the Cox Plate, when So You Think beat him, watch the race closely at the 400 and 300m, Zipping was left flat footed, but once the motor got going, he was closing in on So You Think.
Zipping also often went around at juicy odds, maybe proving he was always under-rated.
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You KT fans must have the rose tint dialled way up. His record is pathetic compared to Winx's.LOL
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Tlaz, "favourite" not best or champion or whatever else.

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Originally posted by Dizzy Dizzy wrote:

Tlaz, "favourite" not best or champion or whatever else.

the mighty Ming Dynasty was my favourite - i love a good grey and he was so good to me on the punt. Backed him in both his Caufield cup wins and the 1980 win at 50-1 was oh so sweet.
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Yeah, I used to have a poster on the wall of Ming Dynasty. And Dulcify.
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Best I've ever seen is Frankel and I reckon by the time one of us is done he'll be the greatest Stallion I've ever seen too.

Favourite is Hot Girl Wanted because she was mine, and the first horse I owned Smile
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Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Best I've ever seen is Frankel and I reckon by the time one of us is done he'll be the greatest Stallion I've ever seen too.

Favourite is Hot Girl Wanted because she was mine, and the first horse I owned Smile

Reckon most would agree with that. Absolutely extraordinary stallion record already.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Originally posted by Sneck Sneck wrote:

Secretariat produced the greatest effort even seen on a racetrack.  Best performance I've ever seen live was Might and Power's Queen Elizabeth win.  Takeover Target is an unparalleled rags to riches story for both horse and trainer. Nothing comes close as long as I've been following racing. He'd have to be my favorite horse.  

Joe Janiak's stables in Queanbeyan were just up from Brian Callaghan's where ours were trained at the time.  Most would know that Joe was a true battler, but believe me his set-up back then was Basic 101 including his own accommodation which was an aged caravan.  But a marvelous character and great to see he had his moment in the sun.

Sorry for the slight derail. Embarrassed
 




Sticking with the derail.   Saw TT numerous times but when he won the Ramornie we were there and it was exciting.  Joe is sure a character but must be slowing a bit.  Recently had pace maker.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The horse that left the greatest impression on me was Secretariat. His Triple Crown ending in a 31 len world record Belmont win was breathtaking.

Australian horse Kingston Town with no doubt.


I think Big Red made the most impression on me.   Lived over there at the time and actually saw him once, and he has always been my standout, but there are just so many more I could add to the list.
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Originally posted by Sneck Sneck wrote:

Secretariat produced the greatest effort even seen on a racetrack.  Best performance I've ever seen live was Might and Power's Queen Elizabeth win.  Takeover Target is an unparalleled rags to riches story for both horse and trainer. Nothing comes close as long as I've been following racing. He'd have to be my favorite horse.  

Joe Janiak's stables in Queanbeyan were just up from Brian Callaghan's where ours were trained at the time.  Most would know that Joe was a true battler, but believe me his set-up back then was Basic 101 including his own accommodation which was an aged caravan.  But a marvelous character and great to see he had his moment in the sun.

Sorry for the slight derail. Embarrassed
 


 

Sticking with the derail.   Saw TT numerous times but when he won the Ramornie we were there and it was exciting.  Joe is sure a character but must be slowing a bit.  Recently had pace maker.

I spoke to him briefly at Ballina races about 3 years ago. Looked in pretty good health.
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Interesting, while many rate Winx as the best none have her as their favourite

Obviously it works best for her but her racing style is as boring as mud
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