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All 3 should have been banned for life. What they did was worse than what that young swimmer is being accused of in my opinion. Christ he was the captain of our Test team. No if or buts in their case - blatant pre-meditated cheating. We are all froth & bubble. They should never have been allowed back

That would be a clear  case for the ACL. Unfair dismissal.
If you dont test, you have no cases.
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Rubbish. Don't try to equate blatant pre-meditated cheating with freedom of religious expression. Only you would try to do that
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It is interesting though that you support Smiths return to the game - but want Folau turfed forever (& worse most probably). I know who the has the biggest character weakness - & its not Folau
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Rubbish, both are simple code of conduct breaches. 
If you dont test, you have no cases.
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No wonder we are all so petty these days.  I was bullied as a child.  My children had some bullied and some not.  But it isn't the bully who kicks and bites etc who does the most damage.  It is the insidious one who says things to other people or to you.  Who underminds you time and time again till you believe the story.  Believe me you would almost believe anything when they have been at you long enough.  THe whole of South Africa did that to Warner!  He was on pay back which wasn't right.  But the country got away with what they set out to do.  THey found a way in to upset him through his wife.  I find that behaviour bullying and yet Australia did nothing to support him and looked what happened.  He paid a high price for snapping.  

It's so usual for the one being bullied to be called a bully when they turn around and defend themselves.
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Rubbish, both are simple code of conduct breaches. 
& you obviously think Folaus was worse ! Try thinking that through 
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Heard today its gone full circle with my grandaughter now being bullied.  It is rife in the world.  We are all equal and all have a place and gifts to bring to the world.  Stop judgement until you know everything.  I don't know everything but I saw enough to judge what was happening even at a distance.  They paid a high price and now support them as they try to work for themselves, their families and their countries.
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No wonder we are all so petty these days.  I was bullied as a child.  My children had some bullied and some not.  But it isn't the bully who kicks and bites etc who does the most damage.  It is the insidious one who says things to other people or to you.  Who underminds you time and time again till you believe the story.  Believe me you would almost believe anything when they have been at you long enough.  THe whole of South Africa did that to Warner!  He was on pay back which wasn't right.  But the country got away with what they set out to do.  THey found a way in to upset him through his wife.  I find that behaviour bullying and yet Australia did nothing to support him and looked what happened.  He paid a high price for snapping.  

It's so usual for the one being bullied to be called a bully when they turn around and defend themselves.
i'm hoping the aussies get smashed. Thats all they deserve.
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Sorry I can't think the same.  I don't get to call things white and black.  I've made mistakes.  So forgiveness is never to be gained?  That is a sad life you live.  Don't you remember all the face masks he had to face every time he went out to bat.  You think that is alright?
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Rubbish, both are simple code of conduct breaches. 
& you obviously think Folaus was worse ! Try thinking that through 

Folau got a warning and a new $4 million contract based on a promise to not re-offend. He is an idiot and deserves to be booted.

If Warner, Smith or Bancroft goes to Bunnings again, they should go for life also
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No Furious - i'm just calling PT out for being a hypocrite. He states above both are purely Code of Conduct contract breaches. So why support a bloke who confesses to pre-meditated cheating - Captain of the team no less - who drags the game through the mud impacting SPONSORS & the public. And then - poo, poo's Folau as being the worst of the worst when he expressed a religious text with "love". Pathetic.
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No oneone, I believe i redemption. Had Izzy not ignored his warning he would be still chasing a ball around a paddock somewhere this week. 

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

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Rubbish, both are simple code of conduct breaches. 
& you obviously think Folaus was worse ! Try thinking that through 

Folau got a warning and a new $4 million contract based on a promise to not re-offend. He is an idiot and deserves to be booted.

If Warner, Smith or Bancroft goes to Bunnings again, they should go for life also
  Could you imagine Folau ever doing what Steve Smith did ? 
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No oneone, I believe i redemption. Had Izzy not ignored his warning he would be still chasing a ball around a paddock somewhere this week. 

& Folau is man of his convictions. Unlike Smith
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I dont think Smith did anything but turn a blind eye to what Warner devised and recruited Bancroft to help him with.
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Also suggest you look at the motivations between Folau & Smith. Rightly or wrongly Folau was motivated by his "belief". What was Smiths motivation PT ?
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No oneone, I believe i redemption. Had Izzy not ignored his warning he would be still chasing a ball around a paddock somewhere this week. 

& Folau is man of his convictions. Unlike Smith

Yep, he has been convicted of lying and breaching his contract and is gone. Wont get a chance to lie again.
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I dont think Smith did anything but turn a blind eye to what Warner devised and recruited Bancroft to help him with.
Glad he wasn't a General on the front line
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

No oneone, I believe i redemption. Had Izzy not ignored his warning he would be still chasing a ball around a paddock somewhere this week. 

& Folau is man of his convictions. Unlike Smith

Yep, he has been convicted of lying and breaching his contract and is gone. Wont get a chance to lie again.
At least he will never be called a cheat !
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Nobody accused him of cheating.
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I have
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Would you go vegan if the missus said it would make her happy ?  


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Smith was thrust into a leadership role way too early. He buckled at a time when a more experienced person would not have. I believe he is fundamentally a good person. I won’t hang him out. Ditto with Bancroft.

Warner was the problem.

I feel for Harris and Patterson
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Nobody accused him of cheating.
Here we go - one of PTs little nuances
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Smith was thrust into a leadership role way too early. He buckled at a time when a more experienced person would not have. I believe he is fundamentally a good person. I won’t hang him out. Ditto with Bancroft.

Warner was the problem.

I feel for Harris and Patterson
Shrunk do you think Folau is fundamentally a good person as well ?
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Would you go vegan if the missus said it would make her happy ?  



Tasty.

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If she was here beside me now, I’d convert
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I'd prefer if this discussion was in the Folau thread (for obvious reasons) LOL
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Smith was thrust into a leadership role way too early. He buckled at a time when a more experienced person would not have. I believe he is fundamentally a good person. I won’t hang him out. Ditto with Bancroft.

Warner was the problem.

I feel for Harris and Patterson
Shrunk do you think Folau is fundamentally a good person as well ?


I do.
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