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Originally posted by Freefall Freefall wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Around 3500 shipping containers (40 ft) arrive in Australia per day
 
So lets make it easy....2 inspectors per container....say 2 containers inspected per day (still allow there 4 hours breaks per day)....that's 3500 inspectors required daily....at say 120k per year....that's 420 million per year.....peanuts compared to the 10's of billions we lose in tax revenue in a year.

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Oneone, you don’t really think that customs physically opens the containers and has a peek-a-boo inside do you?

They XRay them - unopened.

The actual XRay takes minutes. The logistics of getting that one container from the ship to the XRay machine takes days.
Not sure about that....but if so....so be it. Staff /equipment up to ensure EVERY container is checked

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BUILD THE WALL.

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 ARREST AL CAPONE.

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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Its the obvious solution....an approach that someone like Trump would implement

But no....lets just let it proliferate to keep the likes of Freefall happy LOL

No, Trump has the right idea.

I pay $30 for a 50g pouch of tobacco at my friendly convenience store (no forced self service too which I like 😀) which may or may not be illegal.

I walk next door to Coles and pay $110 for 30g!

Guess what a premium brand of tobacco costs in America for 50g? About $30 😂😂

I don’t think Trump needs or wants to tax the tobacco industry.
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Some have no idea about the scanning of containers. Oneonesit is clearly at the head ofthat Motley Crue.  Ermm
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

 PROHIBITION. 

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No....just abiding by our laws.

What else can we let the Crime gangs sell at the countries expense ?
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Originally posted by Freefall Freefall wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Its the obvious solution....an approach that someone like Trump would implement

But no....lets just let it proliferate to keep the likes of Freefall happy LOL

No, Trump has the right idea.

I pay $30 for a 50g pouch of tobacco at my friendly convenience store (no forced self service too which I like 😀) which may or may not be illegal.

I walk next door to Coles and pay $110 for 30g!

Guess what a premium brand of tobacco costs in America for 50g? About $30 😂😂

I don’t think Trump needs or wants to tax the tobacco industry.
Yes....but we have let the genie out of the bottle.....we need to get back to square one if we ever want to tax the product more leniently

That can only be done if we can stop all illegal supply.
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Freefall Freefall wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Around 3500 shipping containers (40 ft) arrive in Australia per day
 
So lets make it easy....2 inspectors per container....say 2 containers inspected per day (still allow there 4 hours breaks per day)....that's 3500 inspectors required daily....at say 120k per year....that's 420 million per year.....peanuts compared to the 10's of billions we lose in tax revenue in a year.

Think i'm in the wrong game Confused

Oneone, you don’t really think that customs physically opens the containers and has a peek-a-boo inside do you?

They XRay them - unopened.

The actual XRay takes minutes. The logistics of getting that one container from the ship to the XRay machine takes days.
Not sure about that....but if so....so be it. Staff /equipment up to ensure EVERY container is checked

The crims would soon move on if no goods were getting through !

If you thought Chris Corrigan went off the reservation in the waterfront debacle Howard and Reith oversaw, imagine what the providores today would have to say about your solution.

Australian ports would come to a standstill.

I still can’t work out why you are so fixated on tobacco and not the harder drugs, which by the way also come into the country just as easily. And via the same process.
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 It will never be stopped unless demand ceases.

 
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And I’ll say it again Oneone.

If virtually every country in the world can’t stop hard, illegal drugs like cocaine, heroin, amphetamine…what hope does Australia have of stopping tobacco.

Would you rather focus on eliminating illegal tobacco or the harder drugs drugs I mentioned?

“Both” is not a doable answer.
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 Tutu read Alice in Wonderland too many times as a child.

 
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I don’t think Trump needs or wants to tax the tobacco industry.

Because he doesn't care about the health of the American people. Look at who he appointed Secretary of Health Confused
Declaration of Independence, signed after The Civil War. Trump said so.
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Funny though talking about drugs.

A few times I’ve flirted with weed. Most recently about 15 years ago at a mate’s 50th.

I couldn’t see or feel anything that made me seek it out after that.

I’d never touch heroin, amphetamine or fentanyl.

Cocaine though intrigues me. Hard to overdose, no hallucinations and most users seem to live functional lives.

I think I’d like to try it once 😂
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If people didn't smoke or do drugs the problem wouldn't exist.

 Simple.

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 FF...you are part of the problem.

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Originally posted by Freefall Freefall wrote:

And I’ll say it again Oneone.

If virtually every country in the world can’t stop hard, illegal drugs like cocaine, heroin, amphetamine…what hope does Australia have of stopping tobacco.

Would you rather focus on eliminating illegal tobacco or the harder drugs drugs I mentioned?

“Both” is not a doable answer.
Stop making excuses....leave that up to the Government for christs sake

Comparing Tobacco shipments to hard drugs is like comparing chalk to cheese. 

Tobacco shipments typically make up 80 to 90% of the load in the container.....& its bloody obvious when you see it

Hard drugs are much less in volume & usually concealed within all types of legal goods.

The fact is overnight it is estimated criminal organisations are making more from Cigarettes than the entire other illicit drugs combined.....& you seem ok with that. Are you also ok with the increase in daily crime in the form of shootings, beatings, fire bombings & car torching that comes with it on an ever increasing basis. Because while ever you allow that sort of loot to be made by no good scumbags you will never get rid of it.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I don’t think Trump needs or wants to tax the tobacco industry.

Because he doesn't care about the health of the American people. Look at who he appointed Secretary of Health Confused
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JJ? I’ve been a problem my whole life.

You either come on board and enjoy the trip or live a boring life in the suburbs. And I’m definitely not referencing you.
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Comparing Tobacco shipments to hard drugs is like comparing chalk to cheese. 
Tobacco shipments typically make up 80 to 90% of the load in the container.....& its bloody obvious when you see it

Apart from the plucked out of the air percentiles you quote, the reality is that Border Security and AQIS significantly reduce drug importation.  Ermm

Though what that all has to do with AUKUS momentarily escapes me.  Confused


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Originally posted by Freefall Freefall wrote:

JJ? I’ve been a problem my whole life.

You either come on board and enjoy the trip or live a boring life in the suburbs. And I’m definitely not referencing you.

 I certainly hope not.  My life has never been boring...and I never needed cigarettes or booze to have fun.

 I have never understood the mentality of smoking or getting sloshed.

 Why do you smoke? You know it is harmful to your health...so why do it?

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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Freefall Freefall wrote:

And I’ll say it again Oneone.

If virtually every country in the world can’t stop hard, illegal drugs like cocaine, heroin, amphetamine…what hope does Australia have of stopping tobacco.

Would you rather focus on eliminating illegal tobacco or the harder drugs drugs I mentioned?

“Both” is not a doable answer.
Stop making excuses....leave that up to the Government for christs sake

Comparing Tobacco shipments to hard drugs is like comparing chalk to cheese. 

Tobacco shipments typically make up 80 to 90% of the load in the container.....& its bloody obvious when you see it

Hard drugs are much less in volume & usually concealed within all types of legal goods.

The fact is overnight it is estimated criminal organisations are making more from Cigarettes than the entire other illicit drugs combined.....& you seem ok with that. Ide by no good scumbags you will never get rid of it.

Sometimes even governments I feel “beneficial” toward do stupid things. Though to be clear for HG only, I haven’t voted Labor in 30 years. Or more.

Sin taxes have been around since day dot. Labor’s tobacco excise, increasing uplifted was stupid, stupid policy.

If you want to save the human race, jump into Gaza, Ukraine, The Sudan, Iran and many others.

If I want to live a hedonistic lifestyle that doesn’t impact on anyone else’s quality of life? Fu€k off and leave me alone.”
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If i couldn't work with someone to open a container (2 minutes), remove cover goods via fork, trolley, by hand.....& evaluate fair enough into the container if it was stacked with fags in less than 3 or 4 hours then i would be a monkey's uncle....& i'd ask that my family was left out of it

I regularly unload 40 foot containers.....you just need access to good equipment....its really not that difficult.

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 I once asked my half-sister why she smoked. "I can't give it up," she replied. (how stupid is that answer)

 At age 83 she was forced to stop smoking to have an operation. Now she doesn't have to complain about always being out of pocket because she 'couldn't give it up'.

 The waste of money always gob-smacks me. Why spend your hard-earned on something which can destroy your health?

 
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All I can say Oneone is…I wish you luck 👍

BTW, any clues on why no country has adopted your method? Ever?
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by Freefall Freefall wrote:

JJ? I’ve been a problem my whole life.

You either come on board and enjoy the trip or live a boring life in the suburbs. And I’m definitely not referencing you.

 I certainly hope not.  My life has never been boring...and I never needed cigarettes or booze to have fun.

 I have never understood the mentality of smoking or getting sloshed.

 Why do you smoke? You know it is harmful to your health...so why do it?

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People who consider themselves to be fun....& not boring.....usually do so at the expense of others around them LOLLOL
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Originally posted by Freefall Freefall wrote:

All I can say Oneone is…I wish you luck 👍

BTW, any clues on why no country has adopted your method? Ever?
Maybe you could list the countries that have a problem with mass cigarette entering illegally via shipping containers ?
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The Gospel according to St Freefall.

 Your gospel is extremely flawed.

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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by Freefall Freefall wrote:

JJ? I’ve been a problem my whole life.

You either come on board and enjoy the trip or live a boring life in the suburbs. And I’m definitely not referencing you.

 I certainly hope not.  My life has never been boring...and I never needed cigarettes or booze to have fun.

 I have never understood the mentality of smoking or getting sloshed.

 Why do you smoke? You know it is harmful to your health...so why do it?

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I have an OBSERVATION on this issue.....which some....not all....may appreciate.

People who consider themselves to be fun....& not boring.....usually do so at the expense of others around them LOLLOL

 I said I had fun. Not 'was fun'.

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 "HAPPINESS IS USUALLY ACHIEVED AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS."

 
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