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SkyDancer
Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2014 Location: Cranbourne Status: Offline Points: 8429 |
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Posted: 04 May 2019 at 5:42pm |
He is a very tough horse.
Going to be very exciting seeing him in the Ramsden. Surprise Baby is going to be the one to beat though IMO |
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Heavy10
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Thought he was a huge run, pace looked very solid and he did all the work
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VOYAGER
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Going well, but if he starts favourite in that after today, then I must be missing something!
Even Anthony Freedman must be acknowledging the topweights run, surely. |
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Lord Hybrow
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Tough effort yesterday over 2800m. I’d love to think he & Surprise Baby could measure up to being competitive in a Melb Cup, but the days of local stayers emerging via off season races seem to be long gone.
Given yesterday’s race was his first ever black type win, what weight would be be allotted for the MC? Maybe 50.5kg or 51.0kg? |
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djebel
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BM104 usually sees horses in on or near the minimum. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Lord Hybrow
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Thanks djebel.
It will certainly be interesting to see what races Anthony Freedman runs him in as lead up races. I’m not sure the horse will ultimately be good enough but Anthony is a trainer I have immense regard for. Would be ironic if he happened to run in and win the Bart Cummings Stks on the way through - winning 2 “golden ticket” races |
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djebel
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Runaway got in last year off 102 with 52 kgs.
Steel Prince has 104 Surprise Baby has 103 Depending on the strength of entries they should get 53 and 52.5 respectively. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Jamal
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Hed be on the minimum weight or close to it. I can't see him carrying anything more then 52kg.
If he were to win the Bart Cummings (2500m) he would be liable for a weight penalty (at the discretion of the handicapper) and I don't think the trainer and owners would want anymore weight for Steele Prince. Get 'am in the Cup as light as you can |
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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SHOVHOG
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Surprise Baby might measure up because obviously that particular trainer has the “golden touch”. A real special trainer that can get the most out of horses that other trainers only dream of.
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" In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win"
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Jamal
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Question is...Will Surprise Baby make the field now? It might be tough. It's a big loss (yesterday's race) in the scheme of things |
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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kavg
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Are you trying to say that "Surprise baby" is what the feds will say when they raid him?
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Prejudice is an emotional attachment to ignorance.
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Shawy38
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Badly cut open his back leg.
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Nocturnal
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The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on....
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Shawy38
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Looks to be just superficial.
Will know more tomorrow, but likely to go to MV Cup now |
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Lord Hybrow
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This guy did a terrific job to finish 9th today, only 2 lengths from the winner.
Looked like he was pulling his head off most of the trip & still finished determinately in the straight. Will be interesting to see where Anthony Freedman heads with him in 2020. There’s definately a nice black type staying race him. |
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saintly96
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He performed above my expectations, I fully expected him to drop out of it in the straight.
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kavg
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He did have a setback too before his last start so great effort.
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saintly96
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With the run he had and his refusal to settle. |
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Mr Grieves
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Was a great run and the VRC would be stoked with the Andrew Ramsden form holding up so well. Should get an even better field next year.
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Lord Hybrow
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Nice improvement from this guy today, closing off nicely for 3rd in the Naturalism.
Currently 49th in the Melb Cup order of entry, so very borderline to get a start this year. But if they miss out hed be perfect for the QE Stakes & Sandown Classic
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VOYAGER
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There are two things about the Freedman clan Lord, that I have learned over the years.
1. They do not run horses in group 1 races, unless they think they have a hope. 2. They will give him every hope to get to the cup and if not as you say they will set him for a race, and he will run well in it. If he is that low he would have to run in the Bart Cummings wouldn't he?
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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djebel
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Unlike Waller who has apparently had 1000 starters in group 1 races.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Brudder_A
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Including 4 in the George Main which ran 1 - 2 - 3 - 4.... Any more add ons to blur the punting situation?
Edited by Gay3 - 20 Sep 2020 at 10:43am |
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Grey Affair
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Very impressive. I rated it as his best ever performance. He is a chance in anything. |
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Lord Hybrow
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Glad to see this guy secure a spot in the Melb Cup.
Hard to see him winning, but can box on for another top 10 placing.
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Pardon_My_Dust
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Mate watch it's run last year literally pulled it's head off the whole way.
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Lord Hybrow
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Originally had him pegged as only a top 10 chance.
But Im starting to warm to him as the only long shot that could possibly jag a place. Any love for him today by others?
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Shawy38
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Ive got him in a first 4 with VE, AVD and Tiger Moth
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marble
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i think Pike will suit him and get him to settle. He is a very tough fit and in form stayer, just wish he had drawn a bit better but he is a definate chance
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Lord Hybrow
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Really pleasing return by Steel Prince today over 1800m.
I imagine Aust Cup maybe next, but should be a nice staying race over the Sydney Carnival for him - something like a Manion Cup or Chairmans Hcp.
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