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What does Putin want? The same thing Trump sought.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/21/maga-foreign-policy-putin-trump-common-goals/


What does Putin want? His aims go well beyond Ukraine. As the Atlantic’s Anne Applebaum summarizes: He “wants to put so much strain on Western and democratic institutions, especially the European Union and NATO, that they break up. He wants to keep dictators in power wherever he can, in Syria, Venezuela, and Iran. He wants to undermine America, to shrink American influence, to remove the power of the democracy rhetoric that so many people in his part of the world still associate with America. He wants America itself to fail.”

Trump’s foreign policy sought to do much of what Putin wants to achieve, including intimidating Ukraine by withholding vital defensive weapons. Trump, like his role model in Moscow, favored weakening NATO, elevating dictators (from China to Turkey to North Korea to Hungary to Russia), undermining democratic elections, demonizing the media (the best check against power-hungry politicians) and finding common ground with kleptocratic-style governments.

None of this was based on America’s interest, but it was in the interest of wannabe authoritarians and illiberal regimes. As Fiona Hill, a former Trump adviser and brave witness in the former president’s first impeachment hearings, put it: "There’s no Team America for Trump.  Not once did I see him do anything to put America first. Not once. Not for a single second.”
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It's on

Welcome to the Russian Hungarian Empire

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Hi Red,

I see you have time to talk about Russia and its b*tch.

It would be much obliged if you could also share with us the compelling footage from 3 ED Consultants in Melbourne's major Hospitals.

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I might be missing something but I see the Russia/ Ukraine thing as a European problem. Not sure why any non-European nation needs to get involved, other than offering aid to Ukraine if a war breaks out.

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And you're responsible for teaching children??  If you don't understand that the situation has truly global implications involving nations in each and very continent who thus have their own future security and  interests to consider you, and your pupils, would be far better off were you in permanent retirement. 

Then again you probably teach woodworking.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

And you're responsible for teaching children??  If you don't understand that the situation has truly global implications involving nations in each and very continent who thus have their own future security and  interests to consider you, and your pupils, would be far better off were you in permanent retirement. 

Then again you probably teach woodworking.


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Only one's questioning your lucidity on world affairs.
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Please translate "lucidity" and "world affairs", SC. In regards to the Russia/ Ukraine situation.
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Anyone reckon this isn't of huge importance and concern for nations other than in Europe?

Europe is on the brink of its worst war in decades with Russian troops moving into eastern Ukraine as part of a mission that western countries believe will be used as a pretext for an invasion.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday ordered his Defence Ministry to dispatch troops to “maintain peace” in eastern Ukraine’s two breakaway regions, in a significant escalation of the crisis.

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There we go. An answer. From google. Which says nothing.
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These posts will only make sense when the hidden ones are put back. What a sh*tshow.
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 I'm sorry I missed the removed tete-a-tete...

 That's the trouble with being on holiday. You're too busy eating and having fun, to eavesdrop on your 'friends'...

 who won the slanging match...?

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He had to win ....    He's about the only one left.
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     ( Before the axe falls ,     that line fell out as 100% Humour ..

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Trump celebrates Putin’s moves against Ukraine as ‘genius’ and ‘savvy’ Clap


Former president Donald Trump on Tuesday hailed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s move to recognize two breakaway regions of Ukraine and deploy troops into the rebel-held territory as “genius.”

In an interview with the conservative “Clay Travis and Buck Sexton” radio show, Trump said he was impressed by news of Putin’s actions.

“Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said. “So Putin is now saying, ‘It’s independent,’ a large section of Ukraine. I said, ‘How smart is that?’”

Trump said Putin will now “go in” to Ukraine “and be a peacekeeper.”

“That’s strongest peace force … We could use that on our southern border,” he said. “That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy … I know him very well. Very, very well.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/22/russia-ukraine-updates/


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When I first read that I thought it may be a Chaser/Onion style satire, but no, the US fascists are growing bolder.
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Putin is a shootin

I give England 3 months to be BEGGING to join the Russian Hungarian Empire.

England chose Stalin's Communism

They are welcome to join Putin's Nationalism/Kingdom/ Christian Anti Communist Empire.
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Still waiting for the compelling footage from 3 ED Consultants in Melbourne's major Hospitals Red. When you can.
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Trump is not a fascist. My mistake.

“Trump is far too pathologically incoherent and intellectually challenged to be a fascist, and suffers from both Attention Deficiency Disorder, lack of self-knowledge, capacity for denial, narcissism and sheer ignorance and lack of either culture or education to a degree that precludes the Machiavellian intelligence and voracious curiosity about and knowledge about contemporary history and politics needed to seize power in the manner of Mussolini and Hitler."

Roger Griffin, professor of history and political theory at Oxford Brookes University and author of The Nature of Fascism

Although other scholars of fascism disagree.


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You gotta laugh at mainstream media.

"Putin is reviving the Soviet Union and Communism"

LOL

Its the very thing that Russia, Hungary, almost all of east Europe, and now even Brazil, is committed to making sure doesnt happen.

Hows England?

1941 "we shall side with Atheistic Communist Stalin"

2022, "we will bomb nationalistic Christian Russia"

BAHAHAHAHA

England, proving itself to be Commies, through and through.
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'Prime Minister Scott Morrison has warned Russia its intention to invade Ukraine will significantly cost the nation and its international reputation as he ordered President Vladimir Putin to "step back".'



Putin response:-

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People might need reminding that Russians are very very very good at Chess
They know EXACTLY the traps being set, why they are being set, and have every move already planned.
They are 20 moves ahead of the Globalists.
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Authoritarian Ties: The Case of Russia and Hungary


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"From Russia’s perspective, the Hungarian parliamentary elections of 2022 will be crucial, as Hungary’s opposition factions strive to significantly decrease Russia’s political and economic influence in the country. It remains to be seen to what extent Russia may be willing and able to influence the outcome of the upcoming elections in order to preserve its position in Hungary and whether the Orbán government will seek Russia’s support to secure its victory."
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LOL,  the Wilson Center ??

Viktor Orban is miles in front and will win the election.
He has declared war on the liberal west and their repulsive Communist regime.
It's Russia, Hungary, Visegrad 4 nations, Brazil, (soon most of South America), versus Masonic Communists.




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Which side were you on in 1956, redemption?Confused
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"repulsive Communist regime"

checks former communist countries


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LOL, did you hear what Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov did when he met with his British counterpart, the British Foreign Secretary, Liz Truss?
Lavrov asked the foreign minister whether she would ever recognise Moscows sovereignty over the Voronezh and Rostov regions, to which she replied, "NO".
One problem with that, those regions have always been in Russia.
It was a loaded question by Lavrov, showing that Truss and the Anglo politics had zero understanding of the history or geography of Russia or the Ukraine.
That's a big LOL from me.

Just to be clear, that's like the British Foreign Minister asking the Russians whether they would recognise Bristol and Birmingham as part of England, and having the Russian reply, "No, we can't do that"
LOL
What a stuff up.
Honestly, if you were to recreate this one scene as dialogue in a historical film, the audience wouldnt believe it really happened.

Trump was wrong.
Putin isnt a genius.
The West have fully vaccinated morons in positions of power
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