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Thanks for that 😊 story read the NZ stud would retain. Interesting tale, Will blackbook and follow
“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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Sired the trifecta in the 4th in Sydney.
3 promising stayers
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Sired the trifecta in the 4th in Sydney.
3 promising stayers

Love the horse , hope he makes it, thought the winner was very impressive Shrunk fwiw.
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Winner was very impressive. Sadly I was all over the runner up
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QUOTE=kavg] Sister- Foaled 2015-called Avozinha. 2 starts last month in Vic-trained by Francis Finnegan at Cranbourne.[/QUOTE]
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Bob Peters has a nice one out of a Zabeel mare having its first start tomorrow @ Pinjarra

Inspirational Girl R2
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1200 bloody metres for a late season 3yo filly. Idiotic.

INSPIRATIONAL GIRL (NZ)Bay or brown filly 2015 
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Dalakhani
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Darshaan
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Shirley Heights
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Abdos
Kelty
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Daltawa
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Miswaki
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Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal
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Sadler's Wells
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Fair Salinia
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Petingo
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Petition
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Sir Tristram
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Sir Ivor
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Done That
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Centaine
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Eh, the Williams’ do that. Both of the past 2 WA Derby winners are bred to run all day. They started out in sprints and worked their way up in distance as they got fitter and more mature. IIRC they did the same with Delicacy.
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Without wanting to take this thread off track anyone who have looked at the careers of past great horses this has been the pattern for well over a 100 years, it also allowed for the longevity of their racing life with many winning TOP class sprints on the way to middle and 2 mile success at Group level.
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Bolted in. Untouched
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Without wanting to take this thread off track anyone who have looked at the careers of past great horses this has been the pattern for well over a 100 years, it also allowed for the longevity of their racing life with many winning TOP class sprints on the way to middle and 2 mile success at Group level.

Before the European and Japanese second class citizens started taking all our prized stamina races.






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Originally posted by Kimberley Mine Kimberley Mine wrote:

Eh, the Williams’ do that. Both of the past 2 WA Derby winners are bred to run all day. They started out in sprints and worked their way up in distance as they got fitter and more mature. IIRC they did the same with Delicacy.

Obviously the past 2 Derby winner did not start their careers this late over a sprint trip.

 




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Bolted in. Untouched

She certainly outclassed that mob.

Wonder how long it will take for her to be up and running over her proper ground ?






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Does it matter if she starts short? She ran away and hid from the field in her first out. Looks to me like a trainer who knows how to spot a horse and how to get one ready to go.

It’s not at all the same as a horse who runs at 1100 over and over without success. The really good ones run fast as well as long.
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Obviously the past 2 Derby winner did not start their careers this late over a sprint trip.

 


Also it’s not just distance, it’s learning how to race. Trials help, but they’re not races. Short races let you get the basics down before getting to the work of balancing, settling, and explosive speed in a longer race.
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Originally posted by Kimberley Mine Kimberley Mine wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:



Obviously the past 2 Derby winner did not start their careers this late over a sprint trip.

 


Also it’s not just distance, it’s learning how to race. Trials help, but they’re not races. Short races let you get the basics down before getting to the work of balancing, settling, and explosive speed in a longer race.


I call this #Australasianism

The very reason our stayers struggle against the Japanese and the Europeans.

Do they use shorter races "to educate" ?






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Call it what you like, but your knowledge of the training side of things could be written on a postage stamp fwiw.

Edited by Gay3 - 24 May 2019 at 2:31pm
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:


I call this #Australasianism

The very reason our stayers struggle against the Japanese and the Europeans.

Do they use shorter races "to educate" ?



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankel_(horse)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldikova Started at a mile, worked up the ladder to 2100m before dropping back

The Ur-example: jumps racing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thistlecrack
Not only did Thistlecrack start at a short distance (3100m) for chasing, he started on the flat and worked his way up in distance to 3400m over obstacles.
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 Inspirational Girl back on Saturday 🤗
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So You Think’s little half sister - just went around at Cranbourne.


AVOZINHA (NZ)

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D.O.B: 29-Oct-2015
by RELIABLE MAN (GB) from TRIASSIC (NZ)

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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Bob Peters has a nice one out of a Zabeel mare having its first start tomorrow @ Pinjarra

Inspirational Girl R2

Very nice win again yesterday. Now won 6 of 7. 

Turning 5 shortly and still hasn’t been beyond the mile.

I suspect this will be the prep, surely 
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Hello,
maybe you are all interested to read.
Akribie (Reliable Man-Aussicht by Haafhd, from Family of Helmet) won a Listed Race at Hannover (Saturday 25.7.20).
 
Reliable Man stood a few seasons at the "Röttgen Stud" near Cologne.
 
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Cheers Ticino led all the way over 1900m but it appears to my eye it was a pretty weak race??
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Hello,
according the info from the website of German Racing and Breeding Organisation (Deutscher Galopp) Reliable Man returned to the "Röttgen Stud" near Cologne, after a 3 year stay at France. There he covered more than 100 broodmares each season.
 
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Bob Peters has a nice one out of a Zabeel mare having its first start tomorrow @ Pinjarra

Inspirational Girl R2

Very nice win again yesterday. Now won 6 of 7. 

Turning 5 shortly and still hasn’t been beyond the mile.

I suspect this will be the prep, surely 


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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Bob Peters has a nice one out of a Zabeel mare having its first start tomorrow @ Pinjarra

Inspirational Girl R2

Very nice win again yesterday. Now won 6 of 7. 

Turning 5 shortly and still hasn’t been beyond the mile.

I suspect this will be the prep, surely 


She just keeps getting betterClap

The big test today. Sticky draw.

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Reliable Man has a couple of nice ones in the 2021 Karaka sale:

Full brother to Hypnos   https://www.nzb.co.nz/sales/21kaa/54
Colt from the immediate family of Bonneval   https://www.nzb.co.nz/sales/21kaa/17
Full to SW De La Terre and SP Aalaalune     https://www.nzb.co.nz/sales/21kaa/200
Full sibling to Gr-3 placed filly, half to 2 other SWs from a solidly producing Danehill daughter   https://www.nzb.co.nz/sales/21kaa/314
Full to Melbourne SW/Gr-3 placed colt, 3x winning filly: https://www.nzb.co.nz/sales/21kaa/483
Filly out of a half-sister to the dams of Libertini and My Emotion.  She's in Book 2 so probably has some sort of physical issue, but could be a good horse for someone: https://www.nzb.co.nz/sales/21kbb/679



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