Pure Elation

She will be a better 3 year old than Esti!

The bleed changes everything unfortunately.

Sunline...simply supreme

70% of horse bleed whether internally or externally , be it slight or enough to stop altogether, breathing properly is the main ingredient and helping them to get relaxed and into a rhythm , having a filly on the bit and going Boom they can easily hold their breath, and we know what that leads to.

I've seen studies suggesting 90% of performance horses bleed internally & that fresh is best for known bleeders to give time for the body to clean up the blood from the lungs + antibiotics.

Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!

Paul Hogan wrote:

I doubt horses would bleed that have been nurtured and not forced to grow quickly....

What do you base your doubts on Paul? I've only skimmed the surface of bleeding and Lasix in racehorses but can't recall coming across anything which suggests the above as possible causes. It's also not part of the Snowden MO with young horses.

3blindmice wrote:

Paul Hogan wrote:

I doubt horses would bleed that have been nurtured and not forced to grow quickly....

What do you base your doubts on Paul? I've only skimmed the surface of bleeding and Lasix in racehorses but can't recall coming across anything which suggests the above as possible causes. It's also not part of the Snowden MO with young horses.

I am guessing the horse was not bred and raised by the trainer.

Let's Elope bled externally twice didnt she, probably trying too hard.

Super Impose

None the wiser from your comments 3bm just restating what has already been said by others.

There is no antidotel evidence / proof of the actual cause and would have to be on a case by case basis I guess.

I gather you don't have horses it would open your eyes and mind if you did.

She may never race again, Sir Owen Glenn (Owner) will decide that

Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know

I'd love to see her return for the spring.

From her early trials she looked like a very talented filly and I was on her at Caul on debut. Given no hope with a terrible ride, and again the next start.

I agree with Carioca that Walker isn't the right jockey. Josh Parr rode her and had her relaxed whereas when Walker rides she is under a hold with him riding high in the saddle. But the owner knows best. She did win 2 for him eventually, or despite him.

I started with nothing and still have most of it left

Hope she returns for the Spring definitely was an A grader this filly

Gunsynd, Bletchingly (not let on by the trainer I think) are two I can think of

All depends where the bleed occurs . Nasal bleeds are common with a pressured "blow'. . A pulmonary bleed (lung) is a different matter.
Lets hope she carries on next prep, but she is just out of maiden class so no worries for Winx at this time.

PURE ELATION (AUS)

Grey filly 2015

I Am Invincible Bay 2004	Invincible Spirit Bay 1997	Green Desert Bay 1983	Danzig Bay 1977	Northern Dancer Pas de Nom	1961 1968	2-d 7-a
		Green Desert Bay 1983	Foreign Courier Bay 1979	Sir Ivor Courtly Dee	1965 1968	8-g A4
		Rafha Bay 1987	Kris Chestnut 1976	Sharpen Up Doubly Sure	1969 1971	5-i 2-o
		Rafha Bay 1987	Eljazzi Bay 1981	Artaius Border Bounty	1974 1965	14-c 7-a
	Cannarelle Bay 1998	Canny Lad Brown 1987	Bletchingly Brown 1970	Biscay Coogee	1965 1959	2-o 7-a
		Canny Lad Brown 1987	Jesmond Lass Chestnut 1975	Lunchtime Beautiful Dreamer	1970 1967	7-f 14>
		Countess Pedrille Bay 1994	Zoffany Bay 1980	Our Native Grey Dawn Girl	1970 1970	20-a 1-n
		Countess Pedrille Bay 1994	Sister Pedrille Chestnut 1980	Cardinal Royal Law	1969 1975	2-s 1-n
Members Joy Grey 2009	Hussonet Chestnut 1991	Mr Prospector Bay 1970	Raise a Native Chestnut 1961	Native Dancer Raise You	1950 1946	5-f 8-f
		Mr Prospector Bay 1970	Gold Digger Bay 1962	Nashua Sequence	1952 1946	3-m 13-c
		Sacahuista Bay 1984	Raja Baba Bay 1968	Bold Ruler Missy Baba	1954 1958	8-d 3-l
		Sacahuista Bay 1984	Nalees Flying Flag Bay 1975	Hoist the Flag Nalee	1968 1960	5-i 9-f
	Rosa's Spur Grey 2002	Flying Spur Bay 1992	Danehill Bay 1986	Danzig Razyana	1977 1981	7-a 2-d
		Flying Spur Bay 1992	Rolls Chestnut 1984	Mr Prospector Grand Luxe	1970 1974	13-c 4-g
		Rosa's Joy Grey 1995	Rory's Jester Chestnut 1982	Crown Jester Rory's Rocket	1978 1973	13-e 1-m
		Rosa's Joy Grey 1995	Rosa Linda Grey 1981	Three Legs De la Rose	1972 1972	13-a 8>

Ancestor duplications:

Danzig

4m x 5m

Mr Prospector

x 3m,5f

reductio ad absurdum

Looks a good filly but I don't get Snowden's level of enthusiasm. Does he expect it to improve a lot as it gets older? The pedigree looks very 2yo to me.

Pure Elation

PURE ELATION

2yo gr/b filly 19/9/15

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