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    Posted: 27 Jun 2022 at 12:04pm
Are you bothered by shops using facial recognition?
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No.
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I figure if it stops theft that's good for me since I'm paying for it.
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All about identifying you to flood you with junk mail to sell you stuff.
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On principle, it bothers me hugely. Personally, doesn't bother me at all because I've never been too naughty.

On a societal privacy/ liberty level it's not the society I'd choose to live in or defend. Plus of course it's a slippery slope.

Reminds me a bit too much of the long-forgotten 90s classic Gattaca.
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Whenever I see this sort of stuff I go back to the Australia Card kerfuffle all those years ago. To think it got on the knocked on the head for privacy concerns Confused
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Lol yeah good old days.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Card

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Courtesy of the usual suspects- the scare campaigners.
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Why would anyone think they have a right to privacy when in public? If this bothers you then shop on your computer in the privacy of your home. Literally no reason to step outside these days if you have these types of concerns. 
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Are you bothered by shops using facial recognition?


 no...if it bothers you, don't go shopping.


 without shop cameras, a certain rape murder case might not have been solved.

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Wear a mask and they won't see your face Cool
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Stay home. Shop on line. Wear your tin foil hat. 
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Find much of the comment on this page a touch concerning. 

I have issues with both big business & Govt drilling down on personal information. For different reasons though. I don't trust big business. This stuff is all about data mining so they can harass/target people to sell more junk. This attitude that if you go outside your home you are open slather is just crazy. Never used to be that way. The idea that they do this to benefit customers opening up their purchasing options would be fanciful at beast. And its almost counter productive these days anyway. Squillions of businesses all using similar techniques to get their foot in the door. It's painful dealing with it - unwanted e-mailing, unwanted phone calls, unwanted texting, unwanted face to face solicitation, loyalty program offers - if you want more of the same - that's what this new technology of recognition will be able to deliver. Just a matter of joining the dots. If you want some perspective where all this could end up in 30 years - go backwards 30years & compare to now.

And the Govt is just incompetent in handling information. 












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"This stuff is all about data mining so they can harass/target people to sell more junk."

Please explain how facial recognition in a shop does that?
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The privacy bird has long flown oneone.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

"This stuff is all about data mining so they can harass/target people to sell more junk."

Please explain how facial recognition in a shop does that?
Not hard to cross-reference a face to purchase details (Loyalty Card / promo entry) - then from that point your movements in & out plus your interest points within the outlet can be monitored 
even without purchase. Then you get hammered with crap. I mean for it to work for security reasons they need a data base - right - so who is to say everyone who walks in the door isn't a potential security risk.


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The privacy bird has long flown oneone.
Probably correct. I just get annoyed with people who think these mobs are doing everyone a favour LOL
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That's all done anyway when you use a loyalty/rewards card. No worries. Just another email to delete.
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Find much of the comment on this page a touch concerning. 

I have issues with both big business & Govt drilling down on personal information. For different reasons though. I don't trust big business. This stuff is all about data mining so they can harass/target people to sell more junk. This attitude that if you go outside your home you are open slather is just crazy. Never used to be that way. The idea that they do this to benefit customers opening up their purchasing options would be fanciful at beast. And its almost counter productive these days anyway. Squillions of businesses all using similar techniques to get their foot in the door. It's painful dealing with it - unwanted e-mailing, unwanted phone calls, unwanted texting, unwanted face to face solicitation, loyalty program offers - if you want more of the same - that's what this new technology of recognition will be able to deliver. Just a matter of joining the dots. If you want some perspective where all this could end up in 30 years - go backwards 30years & compare to now.

And the Govt is just incompetent in handling information. 






No, it is simply a fact. You have no right to privacy when in public. If you’re walking down the local mall and someone decides to take photos of you they are allowed to do that. You can not stop them due to “privacy”. This is no different and certainly is nothing new. 
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I wonder how cops ever caught anyone without CCTV and DNA. Probably verballed the usual suspects.Wink
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

That's all done anyway when you use a loyalty/rewards card. No worries. Just another email to delete.
Well its not actually. Loyalty cards require a purchase. You could currently walk in & out everyday for a year - visit one particular area each time - & no one other than you would know about it. Once your facial details are recorded next to your details there is nothing they will not know about your purchasing practices / intentions - which makes their targeting so much simpler.

But as long as it somehow makes you feel safer & reduce badies coming in. It should be reflected in all those cheaper prices your going to get 
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

I wonder how cops ever caught anyone without CCTV and DNA. Probably verballed the usual suspects.Wink
I don't have any issue with either of those tools btw. There is genuine upside with those vs bloody big business bullgelati
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What about your phone? It tracks your every movement. Your credit/debit card tracks every transaction.

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OK - however who is seeing it ? Are we being targeted from that info ?

If we are I don't agree with it
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My concern is all about motivation behind why things are being done.
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You mustn't get much junk messages, emails or phone calls.
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I can usually track mine back to having been somewhere - often similar type activity / service / product. Didn't ever associate that with walking around with a phone in my pocket. Would have expected to be inundated with crap (which I'm not) if that was the case 
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