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Topic: Foot and Mouth Disease
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Subject: Foot and Mouth Disease
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 11:02am
With all due respect to Senator Murray Watt I wonder if he has sufficient knowledge of farming and agriculture to be making decisions on the run with the possibility of Foot and Mouth disease creeping into Australia by returning tourists from Indonesia.
Watt  graduated from the University of Queensland with the degrees in Commerce and Law. He practised as a solicitor from 1997 to 2002 and was a judge's associate from 1999 to 2000. He was then a public servant in the Queensland Department of Premier and Cabinet and the Department of State Development from 2007 to 2009, and chief of staff to Anna Bligh from 2002 to 2007, and again in 2008. He had long been active in the ALP serving as president of Queensland Young Labor in 1998 and delegate to various state conferences.
Running a quick eye over his qualifications I fail see any connection with Australia's rural and livestock industries, which at this perilous time might require 
somebody else , with a rural background in federal Labor to take responsibility for this important issue



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Posted By: marble
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 11:07am
have we ever had a doctor of medicine as health minister? 
maybe, but a good minister relies on expert advice and then makes decisions hopefully


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 11:09am
He has a phalanx of rural professionals to advise him about agriculture and border security.

I spent some time at close quarters with two National Party Ministers for Agriculture and neither of them knew which way was up.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 11:09am
May I introduce BB to the shadow Minister for Agriculture.

Littleproud was born in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinchilla,_Queensland" rel="nofollow - Chinchilla, Queensland . His grandfather George Littleproud served on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shire_of_Chinchilla" rel="nofollow - Chinchilla Shire Council , while his father https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Littleproud" rel="nofollow - Brian Littleproud was a state Nationals MP and government minister. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-ct-1" rel="nofollow - [1] He attended Chinchilla State High School and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toowoomba_Grammar_School" rel="nofollow - Toowoomba Grammar School . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-about-2" rel="nofollow - [2] As of 2019, he was one of the two members of the national cabinet who had no tertiary qualification. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-3" rel="nofollow - [3]

Littleproud was an agribusiness banker before entering politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-AusVotes-4" rel="nofollow - [4] He spent 17 years with the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Australia_Bank" rel="nofollow - National Australia Bank (NAB), including 12 years based in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwick,_Queensland" rel="nofollow - Warwick, Queensland , as district manager (agribusiness and commercial). He joined https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suncorp" rel="nofollow - Suncorp in 2011 as executive manager (business and agribusiness banking) for South West Queensland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-5" rel="nofollow - [5] As of 2018 Littleproud was the owner of Mr Rental Southern Downs, a rent-to-buy business that employed four people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-6" rel="nofollow -


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Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 11:12am
Michael Woolridge is the only Health Minister that I can recall being a qualified doctor.

Apart from Attorney General there has never been a requirement for ministers to have a professional background in their fields same as in industry the CEO and most senior executives do not need to be qualified in those areas. 


Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 11:15am
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

May I introduce BB to the shadow Minister for Agriculture.

Littleproud was born in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinchilla,_Queensland" rel="nofollow - Chinchilla, Queensland . His grandfather George Littleproud served on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shire_of_Chinchilla" rel="nofollow - Chinchilla Shire Council , while his father https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Littleproud" rel="nofollow - Brian Littleproud was a state Nationals MP and government minister. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-ct-1" rel="nofollow - [1] He attended Chinchilla State High School and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toowoomba_Grammar_School" rel="nofollow - Toowoomba Grammar School . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-about-2" rel="nofollow - [2] As of 2019, he was one of the two members of the national cabinet who had no tertiary qualification. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-3" rel="nofollow - [3]

Littleproud was an agribusiness banker before entering politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-AusVotes-4" rel="nofollow - [4] He spent 17 years with the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Australia_Bank" rel="nofollow - National Australia Bank (NAB), including 12 years based in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwick,_Queensland" rel="nofollow - Warwick, Queensland , as district manager (agribusiness and commercial). He joined https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suncorp" rel="nofollow - Suncorp in 2011 as executive manager (business and agribusiness banking) for South West Queensland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-5" rel="nofollow - [5] As of 2018 Littleproud was the owner of Mr Rental Southern Downs, a rent-to-buy business that employed four people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Littleproud#cite_note-6" rel="nofollow -
Too good, beat me to it.LOL

Talk about Bobbie leading with his chin….


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 11:16am
And the previous Tory ministers.

Michael McCormack - Journalist

Rorter McKenzie - teacher

Barnaby - accountant

Malcolm Turnbull - Point Piper aristocrat





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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 11:23am
You all miss my point, is the any other member of the federal ALP who is better qualified for the job ?


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 11:24am
What is your point?


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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

Simon Cameron



Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 11:34am
Besides, a farmer is not an expert on biosecurity.


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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

Simon Cameron



Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 11:53am
Does any politician ever have expertise in the 8-10 portfolios they get given throughout their careers?

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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 12:04pm
Havnt noticed any of the "experts" in their portfolios do real well.  As an island , why did we let covid in ?  Why have we let in the bee virus ?   And why are we not taking stricter measures to prevent F&M getting in ?  I just really feel this is not being taken seriously enough. But maybe I am biased having been in the UK and see the livestock , huge piles of people,s years of breeding, being fed to the fires.  The impact here would be disastrous .
You only have to have a passing look at the TV show and see all the food people think its OK to bring in . Suitcases full of stuff , half of it vile . Angry Like mummified rats last week ?  Sick fiddlesticks  !!! WHO eats that stuff ?  Wacko  Oh yes, I forgot, people eat bats dont they .Sick
Unless they intend to check every case that comes off planes from Malaysia how do they stop it ?  Footmats.  OMG, cringe worthy .


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animals before people.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 12:04pm
Things are different now Bobby, out go the lobbyists and advisors/contractor friends and family and in comes expert advisors. 

I note Dreyfus has said the contractors and advisors are now being considered for investigation by the new Integrity Commission after not previously. What are they uncovering in the govt transition? 


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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 5:24pm
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/border-closures-an-overly-simplistic-solution-to-foot-and-mouth-risk-industry-says-20220731-p5b5z4.html" rel="nofollow - Experts reject Coalition’s calls for border closures over foot and mouth risk https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/border-closures-an-overly-simplistic-solution-to-foot-and-mouth-risk-industry-says-20220731-p5b5z4.html" rel="nofollow -

- Opposition Leader Peter Dutton and veteran’s affairs spokesman Barnaby Joyce demanded last week the federal government shut the border immediately, arguing the risk of severe economic damage, which the government says could top $80 billion, is too great to take any chances.

- Australian Farm Institute managing director Richard Heath said with Australia’s Chief Veterinary Officer recommending the border remain open, a ban on travellers could do more harm than good.

- “Unless you actually shut down trade as well as people, you’ve still got meat products, and you’ve got all sorts of other things moving around, that could still bring in foot and mouth disease,” Heath said. “So you’re putting a drastic solution which doesn’t guarantee that it won’t come in from Indonesia anyway.”



Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 5:46pm
As per ABC last week, when in power, Littleproud stated precisely what the present Aggy Minister has said i.e. no need to close borders unless the relevant authorities say there's a need to. Geez, talk about change of tune Clown


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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 7:19pm
It's already in the country if a few on here are anything to go by.


Oh no, sorry. That's Foot IN Mouth.


My bad.


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 9:31pm
Really,,,TJ,,its not a joke.   If it gets in it wont be funny.  
If it gets in here it wont be very funny at all.
Do you really get what the results will be,,,,??
 



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animals before people.


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 10:18pm
No aa, I have no idea

Originally posted by TJMitchell 20 Jul 2022 TJMitchell 20 Jul 2022 wrote:

Was literally talking to a vet about this yesterday. How they killed/burned about 6m animals in the uk


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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2022 at 11:42am
Some dipstick fined 2k for McMuffins on a flight from Indonesia 

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Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2022 at 12:30pm
Indonesia has said this morning that Bali is now clear of foot and mouth

Let's hope they are correct


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2022 at 12:45pm
I believe thats a fib since last nights news showed sick cows and people in overalls injecting them.


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animals before people.


Posted By: Hello Sunshine
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2022 at 10:55am
Labor has at last realised the seriousness of this.
I suppose it is akin to Liberals response to covid.
All good then.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2022 at 11:12am
Please get your facts straight.  The in-coming government has from Day 1 followed advice from experts in the field along with affected parties the Farmers' Federation etc.  And it continues to do so as mamatters continue to evolve.

Unlike the prior Minister who took no action AT ALL when warned of foot and mouth in early May.



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