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Topic: Wokeness
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Subject: Wokeness
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 3:12pm
Services Australia, the federal agency responsible for forms, yes, unbelievably, there that is a government department for forms, requires new parents to update paperwork to include a new-born on their Medicare card. One of the questions asks the mother to sign off not as the mother, but as the 'birthing parent '. 
Attempting to do away with words such as, mother, him, her, she etc, by a very small fringe of people in society and replaced by ideological language as birthing mother is nothing more than a chapter out of The Handmaid's Tale , the novel by Margaret Attwood.



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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 3:21pm
Services Australia actually provides Centrlink, Medicare and Child Support services.  "Forms" represent a small part of its remit as a means for residents tp advise or request information to assist them.  

Don't believe too many people who use and benefit from the above services could give two hoots about supposed wokeness.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 3:37pm
Birthing parent as opposed to explaining possible circumstances of having an adoptive or foster parent on a form not able to accommodate that amount of information. Seems to be practical. 

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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 3:38pm
I recently saw a meme which read: ""I'd rather be woke, woke-like, wokeable, woke-aware and all things wokeness, than a fascist..."

 Must admit it gave me a laugh.

 I don't know anyone in my friend circle who ever uses the word 'woke'.

 It's an accusation from the extreme right, to make anyone left of centre seem like a dill...

 Woke up to yourself, Bob...

 Evil Smile

  


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 4:09pm
I dont get "woke" and I dont pay attention to those that claim to be woke. 
However, PC drives me nuts.


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Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 4:11pm
Bob will be pleased to hear that Bill Shorten has instructed the department to have Mother reinstated


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 4:16pm
What term or terms do they have for the mother-f***ker?


Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 4:22pm
 sitting here...laughing...waiting to see if Horlicks removes SC's post....

 Beer

 I love ambiguity...

 

 


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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 5:38pm
thanks for the afternoons entertainment. 

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:16pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Birthing parent as opposed to explaining possible circumstances of having an adoptive or foster parent on a form not able to accommodate that amount of information. Seems to be practical. 

Wha? But an adoptive/ foster parent isn't the birthing parent. You mean they want adopted kids to find out who birthed them? I'm confused.


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:19pm
But what if I, as the father, want to be the birthing parent? Where do I put the mother then?

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:24pm
There wouldn't be a mother, would there, TJ? There'd be the inseminating father and the birthing father. Right?

Unless one of them wanted to be called the mother? ....



WHAT THE F*CK HAS HAPPENED TO THE WORLD?


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:32pm
Oh its all gone WOKE Stayer Big smile  Havnt you noticed ???Wink


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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:33pm
I wish I could wake up and it's all just been a bad dream.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:33pm
How does Bob get onto the form if he's provided his semen for the purposes of artificial insemination?  Question

Does a surrogate mother get a guernsey in all of this?  Shocked

And if so how or where does the person who produced a fertilized egg get a look in?  Stern Smile

So many questions, so few answers.  Cry






Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:34pm
Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

There wouldn't be a mother, would there, TJ? There'd be the inseminating father and the birthing father. Right?

Unless one of them wanted to be called the mother? ....



WHAT THE F*CK HAS HAPPENED TO THE WORLD?

LOL


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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:34pm
 I want to see that father birth a baby...

 Can I be his publicity agent?

 Hug

 


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:36pm
What about those crazy ladies who use a turkey baster and a male friends sperm to fertilise themselves.
Does the mothers name or the turkey basters brand go in that space ??


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:37pm
Seems this was part of a pilot program introduced by the previous LNP govt.

Bill Shorten has sorted it out and the form will be scrapped.


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:37pm
Yes but.  If he is really a female but chooses to live as male he could birth a child .  Couldnt he/she Confused


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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:45pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

How does Bob get onto the form if he's provided his semen for the purposes of artificial insemination?  Question

Does a surrogate mother get a guernsey in all of this?  Shocked

And if so how or where does the person who produced a fertilized egg get a look in?  Stern Smile

So many questions, so few answers.  Cry





No sh*t Sherlock! That's what it's a ridiculous term! Far out.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:49pm
And given Stayer has just replied there's still so many questions but so few answers.  Big smile  Wink


Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:53pm
 this is wonderful entertainment on a rainy day...

 Clap

 


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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 6:54pm
I can think of an answer to one question...


Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 7:00pm
 Why did the chicken cross the road?

 Wacko




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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 7:03pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Birthing parent as opposed to explaining possible circumstances of having an adoptive or foster parent on a form not able to accommodate that amount of information. Seems to be practical. 


Do adoptive parents and foster parents give birth to their kids now? Do trannies?Shocked

What is this form called? What is its purpose? I assume that they have some medical need to know who the biological parent is, genetics and all that, but what need is that?


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 7:10pm
It is gone already. Incoming Labor govt torpedoed it.

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 7:11pm
Well if one's after Centrelink, Medicare or Child Support services the questions do appear warranted.  

However it's a complicated world we live in, a reality Bob has probably "woke" up to now.  Tongue


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 7:14pm
God you guys are hopeless.


Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 7:40pm
Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

What about those crazy ladies who use a turkey baster and a male friends sperm to fertilise themselves.
Does the mothers name or the turkey basters brand go in that space ??

 the turkey baster brand is the child's middle name...such as...


 Thomas Tovolo Johnson...

 Nicholas Norpro Brown...

 Michelle MiiKo Morrison...

 Big smile


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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 7:51pm
Turkeys eh?  But AA and JJ, please not let us get into turkey slap territory.  Shocked


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 8:24pm
Coalition wokeness gone mad but Bill Shorten has fixed it.

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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 8:28pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Turkeys eh?  But AA and JJ, please not let us get into turkey slap territory.  Shocked

 Just remember...it was you who brought that up...

 Embarrassed


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 8:28pm

Just regarding the story in the Daily Tele about a form that was part of a pilot program launched in 3 hospitals under the previous Coalition Government,” he tweeted on Thursday.

“When I was informed of this situation yesterday, I instructed the responsible officials they should cease using the previous government’s forms.

“They will be replaced with new forms that use the word mother, not birthing parent, which is consistent with other Medicare forms.”


Goodonya Bill.



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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

Simon Cameron



Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 8:47pm
Those goddamn woke Liberals LOL

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 9:06pm
A huge BB mea culpa.  Embarrassed


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 9:07pm
Or maybe just an own goal.  Cry  Wink


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 10:17pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

A huge BB mea culpa.  Embarrassed
SC, where in my initial post to start this thread did I mention any political  party influence ? I imagine there are enough activists in the commonwealth public service for that thought bubble to be put forward to test public reaction.
No mea culpa for me.


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 10:50pm
I'd just like to know where you old timers learn to use terms like "thought bubble" and "mea culpa."


Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 11:53pm
The very expressions that come to mind,when reading many of your posts.

More proof that irony is not deadLOL


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2022 at 12:24am
Good one, rusty.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2022 at 10:13am
Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

A huge BB mea culpa.  Embarrassed
SC, where in my initial post to start this thread did I mention any political  party influence ? I imagine there are enough activists in the commonwealth public service for that thought bubble to be put forward to test public reaction.
No mea culpa for me. 

But you should've mentioned the fact that it was your mob that sanctioned the "woke" stuff on the forms.   That's a mea culpa.  Tongue




Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2022 at 12:10pm
SC, I doubt that thought bubble barely went beyond some middle ranking activist public servant who sanctioned the form. Very much doubt it ever saw the eyes at ministerial level.
As it has just come to public attention I think may not have being around for very long and could have been snuck on the form by a public service activist when the outgoing government was in caretaker mode.Wink



Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2022 at 6:04pm
Out in the general community activists and lobbyists are pushing this ideological language through bureaucrats in stealth to the  benefit of trans-identified males to dismantle the meaning of woman and womanhood and detach it from reality. Apparently Services Australia said the term 'birthing parent'  had received positive feedback. Where did they test it..in the City of Moreland ?


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2022 at 6:06pm
Ask Sally Capp BB, she probably has her finger on the pulse.  Smile


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2022 at 6:17pm
SC, yes, it could have been in the City of Melbourne's Council chambers where they received that positive feedback.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 12:58pm
Here you go Bobby, one I believe you missed.

You're welcome.Thumbs Up

Greens leader Adam Bandt accused of hypocrisy for calling himself a 'dad of two' on social media while having a woke fit over the term 'birthing parent' being replaced on a form by 'mother'

  • Adam Bandt slammed government for switching 'birthing parent' to 'mother' 
  • Twitter users quick to point out Mr Bandt describes himself as a 'dad' in bio 
  • Users suggest bio should read 'non-birthing parent' or 'sperm producing unit' 
  • Bill Shorten said he reversed term back to 'mother' to avoid an 'ugly' culture war
  • http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11045299/Greens-leader-Adam-Bandt-urged-change-Twitter-bio-birthing-parent-controversy.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11045299/Greens-leader-Adam-Bandt-urged-change-Twitter-bio-birthing-parent-controversy.html


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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 1:07pm
That's actually quite funny. sperm producing unit

Adam Bandt is such a f*ckwit LOL


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Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 1:17pm
He is a total A-grader. Can not argue there. But if anyone wants the truth there is a difference between a dad and a father. The latter is the “sperm producing unit” and doesn’t automatically make you the former. 


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 1:26pm
Honestly when I read 'dad of two' I thought it was gonna be him and 2 dogs LOL

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 1:30pm
Whose delicate feelings are we supposed to be protecting by not calling mothers, mothers?

When humans who are not females can give birth we will need birthing parent as a description - Not before. I can't wait for that day.Thumbs Up The realisation of radical feminist Shulamith Firestone's dream.


"She regarded pregnancy and childbirth as "barbaric" (a friend of hers compared labor to "gelatiting a pumpkin") and the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_family" rel="nofollow - nuclear family as a key source of women's oppression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraception" rel="nofollow - Contraception , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_fertilization" rel="nofollow - in vitro fertilization and other medical advances meant that sex would one day be separated from pregnancy and child-rearing, and women could be free. However, Firestone hoped to take reproduction one step further and completely separate it from the female body. She urged the emergence of a new type of artificial reproduction, referred to as the “bottled baby,” through which women could be freed of the hindrance of childbirth, just as men are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shulamith_Firestone#cite_note-Firestone-Dialect-17" rel="nofollow - [16] Although in vitro is the closest option we have to such a phenomenon, we have not yet reached Firestone's end goal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shulamith_Firestone#cite_note-35" rel="nofollow - [34] "

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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 1:45pm
I know right? If you give birth to a child you are literally it's mother LOL

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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 2:37pm
That Bandt dill is weird.  I cant believe people vote for him ? Or do they ?  Confused How does he gain so much prominence ?
Making stupid remarks I suppose. Wacko


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 2:38pm
Even worse, he is allowed to breed Sick


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 2:47pm
Must be doing something right. Been elected 5 times to his seat that had been safe Labor, is leader of the party and now has 3 mates in the House with him. I reckon he is happy for right wingers to call him weird and write him off.

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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Must be doing something right. Been elected 5 times to his seat that had been safe Labor, is leader of the party and now has 3 mates in the House with him. I reckon he is happy for right wingers to call him weird and write him off.

 
Bandt's seat of Melbourne has a few local councils of which you maybe aware. Melbourne, Yarra and Moreland, all Greens dominated , noted more for their abandonment of Australia Day and other extreme leftist views. Within the electorate the greatest proportion of Melbourne's gay community reside together with the activist university set.  Bandt, does not have to anything right, the electorate would vote for Peter Dutton if he stood as a Greens candidate.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 3:29pm
They picked up their 3 new HOR seats in Qld, LNP heartland.

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 3:31pm
I am the sensible centreTongue and I have to say, January 26 is a stupid day for Australia day, and moving it to another day is inevitable. 

What is the argument for Jan 26 anyway?Confused


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 3:34pm
I think we have too many public holidays. It can go if they like.

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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 3:36pm
Really it should be the 1st Jan but that day is taken LOL

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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 3:38pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I think we have too many public holidays. It can go if they like.

As you would expect, they don't want to do away with the public holiday just another date. 


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 3:43pm
Will a new public holiday be created to commemorate this Indigenous recognition stuff?

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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 6:13pm
 I am of English/ Irish heritage , (tracing back to a convict on the First Fleet ). If my forebear was not on that fleet I would not be here today, therefore Australia Day is very important to me, as an alternative, if Australia Day is dumped why not a public holiday for St Patricks Day for us of Irish heritage.


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 6:16pm
As a fellow Irish descendant I'll take that St Pattys holiday

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Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 6:20pm
Yeah, that’s a great idea.
Then we can have another to commemorate those with Vietnamese ties, and another with Indian heritage, let’s also make Chinese New Year a public holiday.
Etc,etc,etc



Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 6:22pm
Given it’s the woke thread, Bobbie, why don’t we also make Mardi Gras a National holiday!


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 6:23pm
Have a public holiday for every nationality represented here. Maybe the top 20 anyway. 

Happy China Day(6th) will go down well with some here.


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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 6:44pm
So we all agree , there should be NO holiday for Indigenous Day.


Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 7:11pm
Not at all Bobbie!!

It’s assumed by all,that Indigenous day is a given!


Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 7:31pm
Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

That's actually quite funny. sperm producing unit

Adam Bandt is such a f*ckwit LOL

 I can't sstop laughingg.


 LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL


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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 7:36pm
Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Honestly when I read 'dad of two' I thought it was gonna be him and 2 dogs LOL

 splutter, splutter...ClapClapLOLLOL


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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 7:39pm
[QUOTE=acacia alba]Even worse, he is allowed to breed Sick

 /QUOTE]

 we could run a comedy show on here. 

 ClapLOLClapLOLWink


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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 7:45pm
Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

As a fellow Irish descendant I'll take that St Pattys holiday

 double that for me. Plus a quarter of Pom and a quarter of Scot.

 When you have Irish blood, every day can be a holiday...

 Beer

 


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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 8:12pm
Just gotta be careful of the sun 

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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 9:01pm
Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Not at all Bobbie!!

It’s assumed by all, that Indigenous day is a given!
Not by me, I want to keep Australia Day and if they weaken and give into an Indigenous Day, there should be a St Patricks Day for those of Irish heritage a St Andrews Day for the Scottish as well as a few others for the Vietnamese, Indian , etc etc. They concept for an Indigenous Day replacing Australia Day is a joke , what will happen to that feature race at Moonee Valley on AD  ? Don't tell me they can run it later on Indigenous Day because horses set for the Flemington Autumn and the Sydney Autumn Carnival will have their programs interrupted. Also the picnics at Balnarring, the highlight of the picnic circuit in Victoria , will miss out.


Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 12:50am
 the whole point is...if they change the date, will it change the protester's mind-set?

 NO, IT WON'T.  They'll still bitch about their country being taken over.

 


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 9:40am
Maybe Albo should call for referenda on not only Indigenous recognition but also the date of Australia Day and whether to get rid of the Poms as head of state and a flag change.

Get it all over with in one big Band-Aid rip.


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 10:37am
Nobody that I know of is saying get rid of Australia day and replace it with Indigenous day, except maybe the Sky divide and sh1t stir mob.


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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 12:24pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Nobody that I know of is saying get rid of Australia day and replace it with Indigenous day, except maybe the Sky divide and sh1t stir mob.
Today the Melbourne City Council has come out suggesting to get rid of AD because it is too divisive. I do not know how a few token gestures by condescending urban activists is going to alter the outcomes of the health and domestic violence of the indigenous in remote communities.
How many of the councillors at the MCC disclosed, as part of their election platform, doing away with AD, when they sought the votes of ratepayers and citizens at the last council election ?


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 12:52pm
"Today the Melbourne City Council has come out suggesting to get rid of AD because it is too divisive."

I strongly doubt they said that.Wink


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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:04pm
Sally Capp, Lord Major of MCC, is quoted of having said " AD has become divisive and public sentiment is changing that Australia's national day should be changed to a date to unify all Australians " . Sounds to me she wants to dump AD. 


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:11pm
No one I know wants it changed.  Most in these parts want to keep the day , but are happy for the indig to have a day se[erate , if they want to.  But dont we already have a reconciliation day somewhere in the year ?Confused


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:14pm
Change does not mean get rid of.


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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:15pm
"...Australia's national day should be changed to a date to unify all Australians".

That doesn't sound like desire to dump AD.


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:24pm
Dump the date not the day. ?  I and thousands of descendants from that First Fleet, owe our existence to the arrival of that fleet on 26th January 1788 not to some other date. 


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:27pm
Put it to a vote. I guarantee the majority will be 'leave it as is' or 'don't care'

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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:32pm
Last night at a council meeting all but one of the councillors present at the meeting voted in favour of the motion to ditch the celebration of AD within the City of Melbourne.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

Dump the date not the day. ?  I and thousands of descendants from that First Fleet, owe our existence to the arrival of that fleet on 26th January 1788 not to some other date. 

What about the millions who were either here first or emigrated from countries around the world post WW2.  Descendants of the latter comprising more than 50% of the population.  You reckon your criminal forebears have precedence?


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:37pm
"Last night at a council meeting all but one of the councillors present at the meeting voted in favour of the motion to ditch the celebration of AD within the City of Melbourne. "

No they didn't.Wink


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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:37pm
City of Melbourne is one of 500 odd councils who have no power over anything to do with the date. They may choose to not have any celebrations in their council area, but it means chit overall.

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:37pm
They are just winding you up Bobby.

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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:39pm
Criminal forebear,? Stole a loaf of bread to feed his family.
Of course we cannot have a public holiday for all the descendants of 50% of the population , leave AD where it it is and they along with the descendants of those "criminals " we can celebrate the one day.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:40pm
Stole a loaf of bread to feed his family.

That's what they all say.

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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

Last night at a council meeting all but one of the councillors present at the meeting voted in favour of the motion to ditch the celebration of AD within the City of Melbourne.

I meant put it to a public vote.


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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 1:58pm
The Andrews government refused to be drawn on whether the MMC action set a precedent for Victoria to take further action . "This matter is for the MCC", a spokeswoman said.
That comes as no surprise as earlier this year as it was the Andrews government which cancelled the Melbourne-based Australia Day parade for the second year in a row.



Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 2:05pm
COVID, not wokeness.

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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 6:16pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

COVID, not wokeness.
PT. Come in spinner, I was expecting someone to put it down to Covid. Despite your assumption  Covid was not an issue in January 2022 as it was in January 2021. That  2021 cancellation ok but the second ???


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 6:31pm
Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

The Andrews government refused to be drawn on whether the MMC action set a precedent for Victoria to take further action . "This matter is for the MCC", a spokeswoman said.
That comes as no surprise as earlier this year as it was the Andrews government which cancelled the Melbourne-based Australia Day parade for the second year in a row.


Last year, the Victorian government dubiously cancelled their Australia Day parade due to Covid. It was an unpopular decision that fuelled civil bitterness toward Premier Daniel Andrews and his government, who were quite rightly accused of playing politics with public health orders.

Melbourne City Council has cancelled the Australia Day parade again, only this time they admit it’s definitely political.


http://www.spectator.com.au/2022/01/australia-day-parade-cancelled-invasion-day-goes-ahead/" rel="nofollow - http://www.spectator.com.au/2022/01/australia-day-parade-cancelled-invasion-day-goes-ahead/



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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 10:14pm
I just think its quite sad.   People cant be happy for the Aust Day Celebrations.
Why are we all not ,,,out there,,,,,having a good time




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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2022 at 10:45pm
The population of the City of Melbourne is around 150,000 of which, according to the last census, 771 ( 771/15000= 00514 % of the electorate ) are indigenous yet the Council has assumed that Australia Day is divisive. I wonder how many of those 771  ( .00514% ) would care a toss whether Australia Day celebrations were given the flick or not. There are 9 councillors in the City of Melbourne , no doubt at least 5 of those councillors ( 5/150000  = .0000333 % of the electorate) are in favour of giving Australia Day the flick and obviously do care a toss. What a joke.




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