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Printed Date: 27 Feb 2021 at 2:24pm


Topic: 2021 Magic Millions
Posted By: robbo
Subject: 2021 Magic Millions
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2021 at 5:41pm
This is going to be a most interesting sale, both in terms of whether physical participation will be permitted and how the market will adjust to the current uncertainty. It looks a strong catalogue but looks disproportionately weighted to a few stallions as opposed to a more even spread. Of the freshmen, Hellbent, Merchant Navy, Pariah and particularly Russian Revolution have been given every chance with strong representation across the board. I agree with Goldey on the other thread that the Russian Revolutions look like a really attractive, marketable bunch.

Who is nervous? American Pharoah vendors, I would suggest, potentially also those with a Star Turn? I am assuming that the market won't mark Maurice too hard yet. I'd be interested on views on Capitalist - he is going OK but he has had absolutely every chance and they should be pre-Christmas. There are 48 of them to sell.



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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2021 at 5:58pm
Yep, very intriguing Robbo.

Never liked Star Turn and he's legless early doors.  American Pharoah was always a risk but wouldn't think anyone would've been looking for him to throw early comers.  Capitalist ok but vendors selling those with ordinary female families would surely be be experiencing high blood pressure.  Haven't given much thought to Maurice.


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2021 at 10:46pm
The stallion whose progeny are showing they will be racehorses, considering most looked like late maturers is Flying Artie


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2021 at 8:47pm
Capitalist will be a handy sire simply because of opportunity. He will only be a pale imitation of W.T.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2021 at 10:25am
How are you supposed to get all the way through this catalogue.  

I beginning to think I most well just follow horses out of fillies I've picked in previous years.  I mean Truly Great, Classique Legend, Quick Thinker, Sneaky Five, Handle the Truth, Fake Love, Tyzone and Victoria Quay are streets in front of many I've picked in recent years.  Even though with so many sales on line to view I've followed more than the 25 I used to pick out of the Easter Sales.  And as I follow the foals out of the mares It's getting hard to keep track of them all.

But not being able to get to the sales anymore is depressing.  I miss patting all those eager young noses and seeing the different personalities both in the stable and ring.  You don't seem to pick that up so much on the TV or computer.

I haven't been near a horse since mid 2019 and I think I'm having withdrawal syndromes.  Working in the industry but away from the main participants is difficult. 




Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2021 at 10:41am
Yep, everything done on the computer takes a lot of fun out of it.  Thumbs Down  So much missed out on, sitting glued to a screen with lot after lot passing by, until you become cross eyed. 
No smell of horses,, No poopies to step in if you dont pay attention Wink, no socialising and catching up on goss.


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Posted By: Mumtaz
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2021 at 11:35am
It's taken me over a month to plough through the catalogue - and that was only at a cursory level.  If I were looking to select for actual purchase it would be absolute murder.

Looks like Book 3 will be gone next year with the small number of entries.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2021 at 11:40am
Hopefully that small number will find homes.  How many buyers can there be by the end of the catalogue.


Posted By: Mumtaz
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2021 at 2:09pm
Well, those looking for potential value for money will go on the last day for the tail end of Book 2 (as you say, an exhausted market) and any outstanding types in Book 3.  They could well give the earlier days a miss thinking those yearlings will go for more money as would-be buyers would be fresher and more funded.

Certainly if are seller with a yearling at Book 3 level, I think the March sale would offer more chances of coming ahead financially.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 3:39pm
Tony Fung (Aquis) busy early, arguably paying overs for Lots 9, 20 and 60 thus far.


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 4:15pm
By lot 60 sale holding well. Clearance 80%  Ave $240  Med $180.    Same as last year


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 4:48pm
Through 100 lots   80 sold 20 p    Both Ave & Med fallen by 12%


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 4:53pm
Lot 113 coming up.  Am told she's a great looker, but is arguably back at the knee and throws her off front.  So very interested in what she brings.


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 5:03pm
Lot 113 @ $975 K and Lot 115 @ $1.9mill to Coolmore has just returned the statistics to par with 2020


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 5:04pm
Well there you go: $975,000.

ps the dam's first foal by Sebring was sacked by Hayes and has recorded just one country placing at Ballina from his 6 lifetime starts.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 5:12pm
Hahaha.......great minds & all that? I was just checking results & the only one I've found to comment on (only checked pics of the odd ones of interest) & wouldn't you just know it? LOL
I did spot the tied in below the knees flaw but initially the terribly balanced hind feet Shocked Check the coronet band angles! The OH heel bulb is virtually on the ground & as only a yearling Angry What are these farries learning or maybe the question of who the hell's teaching them, is what should be asked!
Do these stud managers know even the basics of what a healthy foot should look like?
My God, even pony club kids know the well proven, old adage "No foot, no horse"
Cry
Gremlins appear to have hit the site so I can't include price or buyer Unhappy

Lot 113 - I Am Invincible (AUS) / Bonaria (AUS)


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Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 5:13pm
Both appear to be lovely types..........from the pictures 


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 5:39pm
I admit to overlooking the hind feet somewhat.

Shrunk, you'll notice that the off hind coronet is about at 4.50 o'clock and the near at around 2.30.




Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 6:18pm
Thanks SC Thumbs Up The specific angles are 30 degrees to 40 & that 10% difference impacts their entire anatomyhaving a huge effect on stride to start the ball rolling Ouch


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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 6:24pm
Gee guys I can only pick on pedigree and that 113 is out of a Bonaria a daughter of Decidity who I picked from the sales.  Selling with the Widden draft.  Surely they should know about hoof care ect.  It you can't trust the big stables and studs to get it right we are in trouble.


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 8:29pm
now on a positive note
Results seem to have held up well. So far on par with last year ( thanks to IamI, WT, Seb , Snitz, Cap & MN amongt others)
MNavn much preferred over RRev ( MN's do look like runners)
Market off Astern & POD 
Also looks like market has woken up to Rubick & I'd be worried if I paid $50K for Deep F service in 2020

With sellers appearing to be ready to meet the market & the Oz buying bench being quite strong even without a lot of O/s competition I'd say MM staff & vendors will sleep well tonight, but let'see how the large book & long tail affects the overall outcome.

Both Hellbent & Pariah have had the positive start one would expect  from such professional operators as Arrowfield & Yarraman


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 8:32pm
Gay cast your eye over lot 115 . Both my wife & I question his length of rein if one wants to be critical. otherwise an impressive specimen 


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 11:54pm
I had a look for curious reasons Glencoe , when walking he appears to my wee eye that his length of reign levels out nicely due to a massive overstep fwiw.


Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 9:44am
Fairytale? Has to be, Magnier pays 1.9 for a first foal and an average pedigree? We know alcohol plays a huge part in the selling/buying process, never have I witnessed so many drunks in one place before 3pm. David Ellis the large Kiwi with the annoying wink, he pays K825 and K600 for a couple of Fastnet Rocks. The colts no,  the fillies go ok, the colts are generally bloody useless, but David might not care.
I do know the NZ economy is so strong and business is booming, so maybe there are quite a few with tax problems and wish to minimise their tax.....if they run it's ok, if they don't...even better. Magnier is just a w#anker.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 10:41am
Bonjour you could be a tad hard on the pedigree.  Yes its not the Redoute's family or the Black Caviar family etc etc.  But the dam was a stakes winner or 8 races and many mares retire maidens.  Her dam was a 1/2 sister to two G1 winners.  The stallions used Snitzel (well four times top), O'Reilly (champion son of Last Tycoon), Pins (one of the most versitile sons of Snippets with a champion broodmare as his grandam and stakes winning dam with Kaoru Star as well), Centaine (Century, Better Boy, Vain, Todman you name it he had it and we sent him to NZ) etc.  While the dam is inbred to Pakistan sire of Hunza the grandam of O'Reilly and also a champion broodmare with 5 stakes winners to her name.

Well Snitzel loves Snippets so Pins can't hurt.

Redoute's and Last Tycoon have hit the mark plenty of times.  So sireline Redoute's over dam's sire O'Reilly gets a tick.

Just look at the Danehill blood with Centaine crosses - that gets a tick.

And he did look the part of being light on his feet and moved well from what I could see to my eye (which to be very truthful is not up to alot on here).  But no his pedigree had enough.  Believe me many with much less in there pedigree have sold for more.




Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 12:26pm
Kind of disagree here Furious, with respect of course. We owned an O'Reilly mare, she had 14 foals, 12 won, they are special the O'Reilly's for sure, but, this dam won a listed and placed in a weak Brizzie Gr2....brave or stupid paying that money for a first foal, I'd back stupid, time will tell, IMO you're going too far back to Hunza, most pedigrees will allow you to find a 'diamond in the rough'......1.9 buys you a mansion in the right city, the chances of a great ROI with this one, not good........at least Magnier buys himself and no need for a bloodsucker, sorry, bloodstock agent.......#otherpeoplesmoney 


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 12:50pm
I could be wrong here but I think the vendor paid $ 1-2 Mill. in foal to Snitzel .


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 1:05pm
You are correct. $1.2m in foal to Snitzel 2019 MM sale. Also has a Zoustar colt and has been served by I Am Invincible.

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Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 1:29pm
Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

I could be wrong here but I think the vendor paid $ 1-2 Mill. in foal to Snitzel .

You've been in this caper for longer than I, just, it never ceases to amaze me, people walk onto a racecourse and and into a horse auction and their heads turn into pumpkins.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 1:36pm
I agree in that it could be not worth anything as a racehorse.  That can happen to the very best of of the breed.  But I will say again.  I've seen worse pedigrees with no G1 class on the page bring over $1,000,000.  So I won't say this one was in that boat.  It was a sensible pedigree breed to hopefully bring out the best possible foal.


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 2:25pm
Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

I could be wrong here but I think the vendor paid $ 1-2 Mill. in foal to Snitzel .

You've been in this caper for longer than I, just, it never ceases to amaze me, people walk onto a racecourse and and into a horse auction and their heads turn into pumpkins.
Gotta keep up my friend LOLLOL this " paying overs " has been going on for 2 decades , what one eye see's the other one misses , they love buying horses and it ain't gunna stop now , besides I like him , so that makes him worth at least 400K.LOL


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 3:50pm
Look at our current Sires list.   In total the top 10 who went through yrlg sales cost $2.2 million. FACT


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 4:09pm
But perhaps about $10m time adjusted Glencoe.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 4:14pm
And while we're here, how about your mate Magnier paying $1.8 m for the Kingman - Florentina colt Lot 322?


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 4:27pm
Take it home. Win a 2YO Gr1. Put it on the roster.

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 4:35pm
It's that easy TJ?  Shocked

Shyte, wish I had a lazy $1.8m to spare.  Wink


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 4:39pm
You could if you'd already sold $4.2m worth LOL

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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 4:40pm
Just heard Juddmonte owner Prince Khalid Abdullah passed away last night

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 4:41pm
Lot 334 Frankel - Furnival passed in for $500,000, reserve $550,000.  Three foals 3yo or over for a maiden winner in Germany.  What a load of cobblers.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 5:04pm
Do all George Moore Bloodstock purchases end up in Hong Kong ?

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 5:20pm
Think Gary and John train some in Oz but for the most part they eventually end up in Hong Kong and/or the knackers.


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 5:21pm
Probably less so now his old man is back here

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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 5:22pm
Brother ? TJ.


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 5:28pm
Originally posted by Glencoe Glencoe wrote:

Look at our current Sires list.   In total the top 10 who went through yrlg sales cost $2.2 million. FACT
 Go's to show you don't need deep pockets like some to back your judgment without going overboard , and of course a dash o luck.Wink


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Brother ? TJ.

George is John's son


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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 5:36pm
Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Brother ? TJ.

George is John's son
Silly me Confused I'm thinking Garry.LOL


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 5:57pm
Where's Glencoe when you need him?  Hope he hasn't got on the plonk like Magnier and Ellis may have.  Shocked


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 6:02pm
Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Brother ? TJ.

George is John's son
Silly me Confused I'm thinking Garry.LOL

It can get confusing as George is also John's dad LOL


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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 6:07pm
Yeah , don't grow old TJ. LOL


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 6:10pm
And there is a $1,000,000 dollar lot with no G1 blood right down to and including the 4th dam.


Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 7:00pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Where's Glencoe when you need him?  Hope he hasn't got on the plonk like Magnier and Ellis may have.  Shocked

My guess , the Seven Creeks Hotel ??


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 7:30pm
For the most part Russian Revolution appears to have sold very ordinarily thus far.


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 8:36pm
In reply SC to time adjustment not much more than a 100% increase . Therefore adjuted ave $450-500K


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 8:37pm
Jut noticed my keyboard i ticking when I pre s


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 9:05pm
Okay some facts from 2018
Of the 40 colts who bought $750K or more:
                             7 went to HK etc
                             2 to NZ ( where 1 was handy Gr 3 wnr)
                             1 died, 1 un-named, 1 unraced
                              28 raced in Oz   a very healthy %age indeed
                              25 have won a race : a tremendous result

    BUT in total they cost $46.4 million for a racetrack return of $4 million thus far ( and they are 4yo's)
and not a stallion prospect amongst them ( even though 5 have won lower level black type. Definitely NO Melb/Syd  Aut/Spr stakes races of quality or even Gr3)
    One foolhardy young fellow spent $8 million of other peoples money for a racetrack return of  $620K thus  far   Add on costs and investors would be lucky to get back 55 of their total investment
Of the 7 purchased by the shooting star  5 wnrs (total 8 races) 1 non-wnr,  1u/r
To be fair Stronger did win 3 races( Inc a Qld s/w) And a whopping $180 K before heading to HK


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 9:06pm
5%  not 55


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 10:03pm
Just checked out the $1.8 mill Kingman.   As John McEnroe would say "are you serious "
Long narrow head, not a lot of strength behind saddle and much to Gay's disgust on this one 4 different hoof angles, and I didn't look too hard and we are facetiously told he ticked all the boxes. The underbidder was that young master of lemon selection


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 10:56pm
Now to be fair to J Harron B/stock.  I did particularly like lot 349 Shalaa , very nice early type. early success/ easy to market but does he have a stalliond pedigree for Oz. woild get money back on the HK market.
Old mate Magnier squared the ledger with his astute purchase of lot 362 Fast R? Happy Hannah colt for $360K.
I did like the Vic colt yndicate purchase lot 322 by Zoutar.  Very nice horse
Now talking about astute the Lindsay Park team went quietly about their business and bought 2 real racehorses  lot 255 P.O.D  and lot365  F. Artie

And finally Fung/Phoenix must think that after 14 years Snitzel is finally going to become a sire of sires. They have spent overs


Posted By: Take2
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 7:18am
Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Hahaha.......great minds & all that? I was just checking results & the only one I've found to comment on (only checked pics of the odd ones of interest) & wouldn't you just know it? LOL
I did spot the tied in below the knees flaw but initially the terribly balanced hind feet Shocked Check the coronet band angles! The OH heel bulb is virtually on the ground & as only a yearling Angry What are these farries learning or maybe the question of who the hell's teaching them, is what should be asked!
Do these stud managers know even the basics of what a healthy foot should look like?
My God, even pony club kids know the well proven, old adage "No foot, no horse"
Cry
Gremlins appear to have hit the site so I can't include price or buyer Unhappy

Lot 113 - I Am Invincible (AUS) / Bonaria (AUS)

correct gay and SC  $975.000,00 was the price


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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 11:33am
Any lots perk people's interest today?

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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 11:58am
Lot 453 I rather like given his sire Ifraaj was mentioned here only last wek (I think) & love Kitchwin's rearing/environment. He has a beautiful intelligent head/eye, lovely athleticism & well balanced. I do hope he goes to someone capable tho' LOL


Lot 453 - Iffraaj (GB) / La Souvenir (NZ)


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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 12:24pm
Passed in at $140k Gay.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 1:03pm
Not impressed with Lot 510 Fastnet Rock - Maglissa half-brother to s/w Unite and Conquer.  Let's see what he brings.


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 1:06pm
Interested in lot 804 I think it is.  Just because it has local connections who did very well out of the mare , Slots, when racing.  Going thru Torryburn .  Havnt even looked at it so will some of you smart ones have a look and give me an opinion please ? 


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Posted By: kavg
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 1:24pm
Re lot 453, the fansite being nuclear freeze must have put people off as the dam is a half sister to so you think. Was there a problem physically? Photo looks good.

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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 1:32pm
X-rays maybe?

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Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 2:27pm
Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Any lots perk people's interest today?


For what it’s worth 542,545,636Thumbs Up


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 2:32pm
And Lot 510 brings $300k.

Tony Fung/Phoenix continue to pay overs.

Lot 470 a nice type, but hardly an $800k page, best of luck Ultra T'breds/Baystone.  Lot 483 appears to lack bone and substance but brings $800k to a James Harron bid.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 3:03pm
Can't believe someone paid $1m for Lot 529.

be interested to see if it's one of the usual suspects: Fung, Bester, Harron...


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 3:14pm
Picked it in three.  Big smile

Tony Fung/Phoenix.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 3:34pm
Thanks SC & certainly agree re 510! Whilst immaturity can always be forgiven, badly tied in below the knee is imo, a major conformation fault Angry I thought someone said they handpick with conformation as a priority selection criteria Confused Bull...............!!!!

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Interested in lot 804 I think it is.  Just because it has local connections who did very well out of the mare , Slots, when racing.  Going thru Torryburn .  Havnt even looked at it so will some of you smart ones have a look and give me an opinion please ? 


Looks a nice enough type overall without a stunning head LOL which I doubt will deter many Big smile


Lot 804 - So You Think (NZ) / Slots (AUS)


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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 3:48pm
Lot 453 very yummy Gay 3, not unlike Ayrton to look at , lovely disposition too , take him in your list.Wink


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 4:06pm
If memory serves I think someone claimed a couple of Iffraaj yearlings in the 2020 comp.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 4:22pm
Gawd!!! Why would you even bid on him at this time of year with so much more choice to come thru'?  Confused PI for 60k. I know they could just need time to resolve &/or the pic angle might be wrong but................!!

Lot 560 - Better Than Ready (AUS) / Monte Bella (AUS)


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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 4:28pm
Lot 200 I Am Invincible - Custard filly sold for $500k to Sheamus Mills Bloodstock (FBAA.  From a stakes- winner who's already produced two stakes-winners and a similar number of stakes-place-getters herself.

Maybe walks a bit short but otherwise appears fine, and really thought she would bring double that price.  Will follow her with interest.






Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 5:11pm
Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Any lots perk people's interest today?


For what it’s worth 542,545,636Thumbs Up

Reckon you might've got outbid on those first 2.

HKJC $450k for 542 and China Horse Club $780k for 545


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Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 5:35pm
Yes, once again, even my thoughts of snaffling  a 10% share are gone. It’s Dirty Work all overOuch


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 6:14pm
Ok it's generally been a vibrant sale for vendors.

However as Day 3 concludes it's hard to imagine more than a few buyers got value for money, many lots selling for much more than their real value imho.


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 6:48pm
$1,800,000 for 612...have a look at the pedigree Dead

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Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 6:50pm
Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Any lots perk people's interest today?


For what it’s worth 542,545,636Thumbs Up

Reckon you might've got outbid on those first 2.

HKJC $450k for 542 and China Horse Club $780k for 545

I might have to lower my sights. LOLLOL 950k

I’ve only got  these left to spend my money on 714,720,831, 895,934,


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 7:01pm
Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Any lots perk people's interest today?


For what it’s worth 542,545,636Thumbs Up

Reckon you might've got outbid on those first 2.

HKJC $450k for 542 and China Horse Club $780k for 545

I might have to lower my sights. LOLLOL 950k

I’ve only got  these left to spend my money on 714,720,831, 895,934,

I like that page on 714. 

831 & 895 you better reach real deep in those pockets LOL


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Posted By: antlowes
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 7:25pm
Originally posted by Glencoe Glencoe wrote:

Also looks like market has woken up to Rubick & I'd be worried if I paid $50K for Deep F service in 2020

http://www.racingandsports.com/news/bloodstock/sales/2021-01-14/stallion-profitability/536243" rel="nofollow - http://www.racingandsports.com/news/bloodstock/sales/2021-01-14/stallion-profitability/536243

Deep Field seems to be tracking OK?


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

$1,800,000 for 612...have a look at the pedigree Dead

Fung/Phoenix paying overs yet again.  This is a recording beep beep.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 7:50pm
Too much work today so didn't get to watch.  Like SC I liked the Custard pedigree but most of my picks so far on the pedigree page have been all over the shot but I have been liking the Pariah's and following three from yesterday the Belscencia, Astophysical Jet and Astral Miss.  Don't have a clue if the legs are out but look ok to me.  He seems to have served plenty of nice if not spectacular mares.  I've had luck with the Lundi and Fly Me family also but didn't get to see them today.  


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 7:57pm
Oh and Gay love the dapples on the yearling above.  Reminds me to seeing Anabaa.  He always had that dappled up coat.


Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 9:37pm
It appears that way Antlowes but REMEMBER these are the best of this years crop. A further 42 have to find homes at Classic and ditto 17 at Melb Prem and thats only part of the crop. There are many still to find there way into a lesser catalogue
With 200+ vying for a catalogue spot unless you crack MM or he starts producing class Spring Autumn Syd/ Melb stakeswinners at better than his current pedestrian rate of 3% I'd say most future vendors are cooked
COLD HEARTED ECONOMIC FACT   Buyers move on to new fashion especially this current crop of First Season Stallions even given that DF is well marketed
It is doubtful his average sale price will increase greatly but in 2023 you will need to factor in $100K costs just to break even.  That is what I'd be worried about and that is what I was alluding to. DO THE SUMS


Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 9:53pm
I think Mick Price has bought a nice Merchant Navy colt, lot 269 from a long, long line of stakes and city-class winners (despite mum not getting anywhere near that level, or her $750k price tag). In any case, $170k looks like a nice buy. Not too expensive to geld (should the need arise), not too cheap to syndicate to his better clients.

Also like the potential of lot 615, the Highland Reel 1/2 brother to Doctor Doom. Mum is 6/6 for runners to winners. $180k might be a little hard to sell, but the finished product might go alright.... $76k pinhook, so there's been a couple of nice drinks in him already.

James Bester has bought the pick of the Flying Arties sold to date (imo), lot 444 out of a Scat Daddy mare. American listed level is, admittedly, a touchy subject, but we can all agree that it is at least city class. So, $180k for a nice size filly with a reasonable maternal line is good business for both sides of the table... probably ends up with Gai?


Posted By: Vivarchi
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 12:41am
I had a shortlist of 15 i liked in this sale. 11 have sold so far. Most of those sold went for what i consider overs in price, and one went for too much unders.

One that i loved and who went for imo a bit unders was Lot 293 a grey SYT filly. 220K. It was bought by Big Red Farm in Japan. Does anyone know if they get them trained here by anyone or do they take them to Japan straight away?

Bit hard to follow in Japan if i choose her in the comp.


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 6:49pm
831 must have something wrong with it. $500k seems unders 

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Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 9:02pm
Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

831 must have something wrong with it. $500k seems unders 

I sent out a few rumours hoping to be able to buy in.
Sadly it’s still not in my price rangeLOL


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 9:12pm
Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Thanks SC & certainly agree re 510! Whilst immaturity can always be forgiven, badly tied in below the knee is imo, a major conformation fault Angry I thought someone said they handpick with conformation as a priority selection criteria Confused Bull...............!!!!

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Interested in lot 804 I think it is.  Just because it has local connections who did very well out of the mare , Slots, when racing.  Going thru Torryburn .  Havnt even looked at it so will some of you smart ones have a look and give me an opinion please ? 


Looks a nice enough type overall without a stunning head LOL which I doubt will deter many Big smile


Lot 804 - So You Think (NZ) / Slots (AUS)


Reserve 80 thous.  Sold for 160 thous.   Have to be happy with that.
However.   They stuffed around with the lot 2 before him.   Went from opening at about 100 thous and up by 5 and 10 thous bids to final 720 thous sale.  How much time should they spend on one horse FF$. 
Even the auctioneer said we will have to bring in the next 3 together to make up time.
Then this horse comes in and he goes up to 160 and before anyone has time to make another bid they knock him down ???? 
Why do they give one horse so much time, then crack off another quick smart ?




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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 2:15pm
Bought into a lovely, big Vancouver filly from Swiftly Red at last year's digital Vobis Gold Yearling sale.  She was knocked down for $25,000.

Her half brother by Impending which I didn't think was as good a type sold at MM yesterday for $240,000!


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 4:45pm
Well, that put Shalaa on the map !


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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 5:07pm
A forum member by the moniker Taxidriver seems to have joined the 2020 yearling comp just to showcase this colt  Shaquero. Nicely done.LOL


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 5:24pm
Great stuff from him.  Will be very hard to beat in the Yearling Comp.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 5:35pm
yes unless one can come out and take the slipper or either one of the two next everests he's probably safe!


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 5:41pm
I liked lot 142 , lovely Shalaa colt , M.Price $ 150K. but then the list gets big n bigger.LOL so I settled for a No Nay Never filly, she's gorgeous.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 6:01pm
Gee I've got to cut down from about 50!  And know me of late anything of any class will miss the cut.


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 7:43pm
Is there a half to this winner today, in the MM sale ? Has it gone thru already and if so what did it bring ?


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Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 7:51pm
Yes.  360k



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