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Topic: Absolute Disgrace
Posted By: oneonesit
Subject: Absolute Disgrace
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:21pm
This protest march around the country is an absolute joke. The whole country has been working towards beating this pandemic - costing the country a fortune - making daily life a misery - only to see thousands shoulder to shoulder around the country today for a cause most folk are struggling to define. Some businesses are still not even open - like gyms. Seriously cannot believe it. A lot of explaining required.

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:23pm
And how could a judge overturn a decision to make it legal in Sydney ?

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:27pm
How would you like to be a restaurant , cafe or other type of hospitality owner. Struggling your arse off for 3 months - still operating under severe restrictions - only to see thousands of people ignoring all social distancing requirements. All with a green light.

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:27pm
I agree, the nightsticks need to be applied liberally, and not just to the idiots marching.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:28pm
And why would you open a new thread instead of posting your opinions in the Coronavirus thread?


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:28pm
Hope we get a second wave of virus that knocks half of us over. We deserve no better !

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:29pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

And why would you open a new thread instead of posting your opinions in the Coronavirus thread?
Because this deserves its own thread. A lot more to come from this. Now nick off you pain in the arse !

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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:31pm
Agree oneone 100%----   Shoot a few of the Mad persons .

What the west will achieve is NON ACTIVE Police ---   Justifiably they will go to work and no hands on.----   issue a few Parking tickets and let the home invaders have a picnic.
I'm ashamed to be an Aussie to day. We should all be complaining to our local member of Parliament. All day , every day.

The American Police are resigning in big numbers.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:34pm
People have "played the game" wonderfully well during the lockdowns, and now people in authority are giving way to this riff-raff


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:39pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

People have "played the game" wonderfully well during the lockdowns, and now people in authority are giving way to this riff-raff




Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:40pm
I have a business that is restricted to a max of 10 people at any one time. Social distancing, tracing logs , consumable hygiene supply - resulting in massive income loss & big cost increases - with the threat of huge fines if we breach. And then we see this ! How should i feel ?

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:41pm
All this bar the Court of Appeal decision has already been comprehensively canvassed in the coronavirus thread.

Maybe 11 is following Boob's example and trying to reach Premium Status on here by opening entirely unnecessary new threads.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:44pm
Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Hope we get a second wave of virus that knocks half of us over. We deserve no better !

We're only about a hundred billion down the hole through the restrictions imposed, and now we have this BS allowed ? My opinion of our politicians can't get much lower, but it has today.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:44pm
The attention numbers supports more threads ...    We have to have more places to avoid Trump haters.


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:45pm
Well i think we would be more than happy if you focused your time there Second Chance. You offer bugger all comment that means anything at the best of times. So off you go.

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:50pm
I'd like PT to give his thoughts on the matter. Could be waiting for a while !

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:51pm
It's just a further extension of the "national sorry day" BS, I declare any day when officialdom panders to minorities on the basic of ethnicity, a sorry day.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:53pm
I have given my thoughts in several of the other threads on this oneone, including the aforementioned Coronavirus thread.


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:55pm
I mean seriously - how are Scomo et al ( all persuasions) - going to expect anyone to take them seriously on this issue going forward. All those health workers , all the business owners , all those that want to travel here & overseas but cant. Time to pull all restrictions & hope for the best

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:58pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I have given my thoughts in several of the other threads on this oneone, including the aforementioned Coronavirus thread.
Bit of fence sitting from what I've read PT. Should the protest marches been all allowed to go ahead or not ?

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:59pm
It's an inevitable result of years of pandering, they can't turn that "Queen Mary" around in a day, and say, "stay home or else, we don't care what your pet grievance is today, we have greater priorities".


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:59pm
I agree it's a disgrace. And that it deserves its own thread. God know the corona thread has gone off on a million tangents.
I wonder if Trump will find his way into this one.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:02pm
I'm so Pizzed off I could vote Labor. That would be euthanasia.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:03pm
Welcome comrade Hug


Posted By: Baguette
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:09pm
It’s pretty rare that things on the news get me angry this one does. Bloody idiots marching for their own satisfaction , “ look at me aren’t I sooo woke and progressive” and managing to totally annoy the vast majority of Australians! Most of them don’t even know why theyre protesting! One things for sure indigenous Australians deserve much better than having their cause hijacked by these fools. I think it has to be stressed that the city dwelling idiots DO NOT speak for indigenous Australia. Most of them are at home doing the right thing by their family and health, given the Indigenous are more susceptible than others to this virus. The worst part? Scomo and Gladys will be rubbing their hands together with glee saying “ come in spinner” . This behaviour today will boost their popularity a lot. God the modern left are stupid!


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:09pm
Weak as. This will cost lives for sure. And cause a major amount of resistance to lock-down rules, by law-abiding people. These coots have been told by hand-wringers that they are above the law, and are now acting the part.


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:10pm
I've only just seen the footage. Holy cow. The world's gone mad.


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:11pm
What do they actually want ? What changes are actually going to occur tomorrow - or next week or next month ? I get the high incarceration rates - i get the crap health outcomes - i even get the racism bit - but haven't we been trying to address all that for decades now ? Sorry Day , Reconciliation , Government Housing , Government hand-outs , works programs , sporting scholarships, interventions for children in danger - i mean things have been improving surely !

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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:12pm
I went near the march today and my Covidsafe App was going absolutely beserk.
So I got the heck out of the area.


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The Vaccine is Poison


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:13pm
Welcome to country !


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:15pm
Morrison / Gladys et al need to come out strong on this

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:19pm
& as a country we were doing so well up to today. All out the window now as far as I'm concerned. Nearly all young people as well - selfish. Thank god one day they will get old & realise how badly they got it wrong.

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:20pm
Bit late now, unless the police were told to "go easy". I would blame them.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:20pm
Morrison said ''it's a free country'' on marches last week. Gladys said this march was fine the other day, her right wing said no it isn't, so off to the Supreme Court at the 11th hour then Appeals Court. marches go ahead right or wrong. Who will they blame if there is a breakout? 

After Morrison totally screwed up the Job Keeper thing, I thought he was back on track but of late he is showing why he couldn't keep a job in Tourism in 2 countries. Total incompetent. Maybe he will pray for a miracle tomorrow.


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:25pm
Meanwhile - i'd still like your thoughts PT instead of pot shotting Morrison. Should the marches have gone ahead or not ?

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:28pm
Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

I went near the march today and my Covidsafe App was going absolutely beserk.
So I got the heck out of the area.



Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:29pm
Have a look in the other threads


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:29pm
maxie even agreed with me, a first I think. LOL


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:59pm
Interesting ruling by the Appeals Court saying that the original police approval could not be overruled and while there is an emergency Public Health warning in place, the police authorization Wednesday gives the organizers and anyone attending a ''reasonable excuse''out to avoid prosecution. 


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 8:03pm
This is a watershed day, for me, I realise how hopelessly inept our leaders really are. But then I've known for many years, the wrong-headedness of pandering to the "aboriginal industry"


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 8:05pm
Tens of thousands marched in Melbourne, yet no fines issued. Anyone who has copped COVID fines recently, would be well justified in not paying.


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 8:12pm
Pushing Covid19 aside, Australia, AGAIN, truly realised how lucky we are to even be on Aboriginal lands.

How many Indigenous people today smashed up Myer, David Jones, to grab some Nike shoes?

Be thankful for how peaceful our Indigenous people are.




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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 8:17pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Tens of thousands marched in Melbourne, yet no fines issued. Anyone who has copped COVID fines recently, would be well justified in not paying.
Believe the organisers have been told they are going to be fined Max. ($1600 each)

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 8:18pm
Differential policing = poor policing


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 8:45pm
Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Tens of thousands marched in Melbourne, yet no fines issued. Anyone who has copped COVID fines recently, would be well justified in not paying.
Believe the organisers have been told they are going to be fined Max. ($1600 each)

The organisers will not pay the fines, they should have taken straight to the slammer and not being released until Tuesday.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 9:00pm
If you didn't hate the B's before , most will certainly keep them in mind in the future.      . They are more angry that they have to pay rent shortly and the $750 a week gift comes to an end .
Police did a wise thing ----   Don't touch them , let the Governments and their Judicial idiots sort them out .

400 deaths in custody in 30 years would only be a fraction of the number of kids raped ,murdered , starved etc . Of Women subject to domestic violence .      400 would be the usual suicide rates.

Well over 3000 people die by suicide each year.

Aboriginal Medical Services and Aboriginal Legal Services - provide cost-free medical and legal services. The Indigenous Employment Programme - provides flexible financial assistance to help create employment and training opportunities for Indigenous people in the private sector.
Approx 40 billion is spent per year on Indigenous people.


Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 9:19pm
Please all, refrain from personal attacks against other forum members.

I have been very lenient as I know there are strong feelings but keep personal stuff away from now on.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 10:17pm
   I think we are all stunned .    What did we destroy our economy for. ???

All triggered by a career criminal, having died while being arrested
10000 miles away.   In another Country.

    We don't deserve this world , Won't be peace until there's only      cockroaches left in it.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 10:21pm
Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

This protest march around the country is an absolute joke. The whole country has been working towards beating this pandemic - costing the country a fortune - making daily life a misery - only to see thousands shoulder to shoulder around the country today for a cause most folk are struggling to define. Some businesses are still not even open - like gyms. Seriously cannot believe it. A lot of explaining required.





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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 10:25pm
A day of shame today, and I wonder what will happen tonight, this kidding to blackfellers BS is an abomination, you can see what it leads to, anarchy.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 10:33pm
All you ferals hiding behind covid to vent your spleen, just admit you are racist.

It makes life easier.

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Posted By: Baguette
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 11:03pm
Don’t be juvenile djebel. People are really really angry about this. Not with Indigenous Australians or even with the cause itself. But with the timing of a mass protest in the middle of a pandemic by entitled idiots. Can’t you see how much harm they’ve done? All so they could get lots of selfies and make witty signs while giving themselves a pat on the back .It’s disgusting.


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 11:04pm
well said baguette 

Poor form djebel 😓


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 11:38pm
It's the end result of gutless politicians who won't bite the bullet and lead, "crash, or crash through" as Whitlam called it. Being led by noisy minorities doesn't work. Pretty easy to see where the priorities lie, even public health and the national economy, takes a back seat to pandering to the the mythology of the oppressed black fella, a battle won long ago, time for the hand-wringers to get another hobby-horse.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 11:45pm
I'll put it even more succinctly, "two wrongs don't make a right", and its about time people woke up to it, what happened today, was a grievous wrong. What is past, is past, and what can be changed, already has been, but if you make a living out of peddling grievance based on historic wrongs, you want to keep it on the boil. I suppose if you're otherwise unemployable, that's understandable.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:35am
When you use the word "woke" max manewer what does you mean ? 

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 12:38pm
Am i missing it - or has there been next to no comment from "our leaders" on yesterdays marches. Almost seems like no one (other than djebel) wants to talk about it !

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 12:39pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

All you ferals hiding behind covid to vent your spleen, just admit you are racist.

It makes life easier.

There you go - I am racist


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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 12:40pm
Yet to meet anyone - & i mean anyone - that isnt !

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 12:41pm
The NSW Court of Appeal over ruled the Supreme Court and said that Gladys/NSW Police order that the march can go ahead was valid. 

What is there to talk about? Gladys screwed up the NSW COA slapped her down. 


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 12:46pm
Ok - then good luck trying to get business people playing by the Covid rules when its costing them a fortune to do so. I mean it is totally illogical & an argument that now has no credibility. Sort of hoping for a second wave - we deserve no less imo.

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 12:48pm
Wonder how easily djebel would adapt to living a nomadic life in the middle of Australia ?

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 12:52pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The NSW Court of Appeal over ruled the Supreme Court and said that Gladys/NSW Police order that the march can go ahead was valid. 

What is there to talk about? Gladys screwed up the NSW COA slapped her down. 


I thought the Supreme Court was the court of appeal and only able to be overruled by High Court.

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:00pm
Oh I get it. Single judge Supreme Court decisions can be changed by the Court of Appeal which is also part of the Supreme Court.

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:07pm
No,  a police authorisation allowing assembly under the Summary Offences Act sec 27 cannot be challenged in court.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:10pm
It doesn't challenge the states Public Health Orders but people assembling a reasonable excuse for attending.

I am sure State governments will be busy this week trying to plug that hole up.


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:18pm
Why - didn't seem to stop the lawlessness in all the other states yesterday. You would love total anarchy wouldn't you PT ?

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:22pm
Even for you oneone. Embarrassed


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:24pm
I'll tell you this - there would have been "zero" protesters yesterday that would have been retailers / service suppliers that have battled there arse off for the past 3 mths trying to keep their businesses afloat (& still being severely limited re Covid compliance). They must all be scratching their heads this morning ! 

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:26pm
That is a different argument, but the police/public health/Premier ruled that it is safe to get out, just as they have allowed people to return to races and football next week.

What is the difference?


Posted By: TIGER
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:29pm
Anzac Day march = cancelled

Protests = given the green light, no social distancing what so ever

Priorities

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:30pm
I'll guarantee social distancing will be organised & enforced at both PT - in a professional manner. Yesterday was an absolute sham re social distancing.

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:30pm
No Tigg, cant you read? 


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:32pm
We still have some retailers a number of retailers operating 10 customers max - or max customers based on shop size divided by 4.

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:34pm
 (based on square metres)

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:36pm
Vent you outrage at the Liebs at the next State election and get rid of them oneone.Thumbs Up


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:40pm
Anyhow - i think my job is done here today. I will leave it SC , djebel & PT to explain what yesterday was all about & how anything has changed - except a lot of disillusion amongst those of us who thought we had one a pretty good job on Covid Compliance measures. Not good enough obviously !

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:43pm
Can we get this Sad Thread shut down then? 


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2020 at 1:45pm
Even hard-core lefties look askance at yesterday's restriction-busting rallies. I was speaking to one who was totally disapproving, considering the hardships borne, to keep COVID under control. I was told be a left-leaner today, that the aboriginal push will ride the wave of public sympathy for as long as it will carry them, till it dumps them. That day has to be nearer, after yesterday.


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2020 at 1:30pm
Two politicians, one from the Liberal Democrats, whoever they are, and the other a federal Green senator, no it was not Adam Bandt, but some nondescript member of the Greens, attended the Melbourne BLM rally on Saturday. Both said that there were risks for themselves but thought it was important to attend. If these crackpots felt is was OK for themselves to attend,did they have any thought to others they may infect in they catch the virus.Regardless, they should self isolate for the next 14 days.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2020 at 1:35pm
I hope they wore masks and carried the COVID-safe app on their phones and will self isolate for 14 days.


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2020 at 1:54pm
Going by the photo in the press they wore masks and I presume they carried a telephone, but whether they had that app and/or they will self isolate I have no idea.
But IMO : app= $ 1.0001: Self isolate = $10.00


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2020 at 1:57pm
Being Greens they would be terrified of the Gubmint tracking them so probably not.


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2020 at 8:19pm
 I should have known that Green's senator, Janet Sago, sorry Janet Rice, is flying back to Canberra to take her place in the Senate. She might even catch up with Adam Bandt and Sarah Hanson-Young, that would be worth being a fly in the room.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2020 at 9:15pm
Black lives matter, just ask the Hutus and the Tutsis. I frankly think a few of these activists should be charged with an offence, namely, "trying to gain a benefit by deception." cos that is what they are after, more benefits based on grievances addressed long ago, but claimed still to be in force.



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