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Topic: John Kerr letters
Posted By: Passing Through
Subject: John Kerr letters
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 12:05pm

High Court decides 'Palace letters' written during the Whitlam dismissal can be accessed by historian Jenny Hocking



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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 12:50pm
PT, for what reason would you draw TBV members attention to some historian who want to seek access to letters of Sir John Kerr dating back 47 years ? 
Going by the historian's previous books....
Lionel Murphy: A Political Biography
Frank Hardy: Politics, Literature, Life
Gough Whitlam: A Moment in History
Gough Whitlam: His Time The Dismissal Dossier
All favourable books towards individuals from the left side of the political spectrum
Any chance our historian might be seeking, from those letters of Kerr, some right wing conspiracy theories of 47 years ago  so that she can launch another book ?




Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 12:55pm
Who cares .  Its done and dusted now and cant be changed, and he was a right old boozer, who couldnt hold his grog, like Hawk could,  so not very surprising he got the boot.  


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 12:58pm
Dear Bob, these are 200 odd letters exchanged between Governor General Kerr and Queen Elizabeth at the time of The Dismissal. If you cant see the historic importance of one of the most critical incidents  in our history, from a first hand perspective of the key players, I cant help you.

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 1:00pm
Dont worry though, it will be about China when Isaac arrives.Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Baguette
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 1:07pm
The letters will simply show the Queen telling Kerr that it’s nothing to do with her and she was keeping out of it. It was up to Kerr to use his judgement. I’d be much more interested in any correspondence between Kerr and Washington. That would have a lot more to do with the Whitlam dismissal . EVERYBODY at the time thought it was all about Pine Gap and Whitman’s refusal to renew the lease unless the Australian Government was kept informed about what the Americans were actually doing there.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 1:10pm
There were conspiracies aplenty. It will just be nice to get a first hand confirmation of the Queen and Kerr's part.

I always thought the Queen stayed out and Kerr conspired with Fraser.


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 1:13pm
People, Other than Bob should listen to a podcast called The Eleventh.




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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 1:42pm
200+ letters seems an awfully large number, if it was just at that very time.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 2:07pm
Especially given Kerr was three quarters p1ssedmost of the time.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 2:22pm
The greatest favour, ever done, for Australia was the getting rid of Gough Whitlam .
I remember the mess only too well ,    Gough Favouring the middle East over the USA .      Making his own Rules, which is a Labor trait.

---The Loans affair, also called the Khemlani affair, was a political scandal involving the Whitlam Government of Australia in 1975, in which it was accused of attempting to unconstitutionally borrow money from Middle Eastern countries through the agency of Pakistani banker Tirath Khemlani (17 September 1920 — 19 May 1991), bypassing standard procedures of the Australian Treasury. Minerals and Energy Minister Rex Connor, along with Treasurer and Deputy Prime Minister Dr Jim Cairns misled Parliament and were forced from the Whitlam Cabinet over the Affair, which was a key precursor to the Constitutional Crisis and the Dismissal of the Whitlam Government in 1975.[1]
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Don't talk about Kerr drinking , when Bob Hawke was a self confessed alcoholic with a mistress in every room.
45 year since Gough was slaughtered in an election, BY THE PEOPLE , who were the Judge, on who was correct ... Kerr or Whitlam.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 2:26pm
Sorry Macca, Bob never touched a drop (except for the cameras) during his Prime Ministership.

Before and after, but not while in high office.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 2:37pm
macca, the "loans affair" was the greatest load of bullship ever foisted upon the ears of the Australian populace, If some little weasel wants to lend you a sh1tload of money at interest rates way below the then prevailing interest rate, the only sane response is, "fill 'er up, mate". Goodness me, too easy.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 2:46pm
Against the Laws of the land and what favours were in the agreement to obtain such treatment.

    History has been made and the will of the people decided.

Nothing to debate --    Whitlam got thrown out = Never to return , despite more attempts.    The JUDGE was the Election of 1975 by a huge majority in favour of Kerr's decision.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 3:03pm
Favours ? What favours ? I would think promise the world, and receive the heavily discounted loan, would be de rigeur, especially if said "promises" unenforceable by law. It was like so much of the opposition to Whitlam, generated by the media, who were all-powerful in those days. The same media that "sold" the Vietnam war as a "just cause". Pig's ars it was.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 3:29pm
Who Knows ----   The I don't know basket, to all of these questions.

China is buying up every where ,   Maybe they stole the idea from Kimlani.

     What we do know is the record book shows Whitlam got his arz kicked in 1975.    END OF STORY.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 3:32pm
Khemlani loaned them the money at 2%, and they never looked back !


Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 3:39pm
Maybe his parents should’ve named him Wayne


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 6:00pm
Who could forget the Cup speech. Slurred as it was.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 6:38pm
Everone is pizzed at the CUP...

Read the History Books re Kerr.     . he sacked Whitlam.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 6:44pm
he was a soak.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 9:17pm
He was our Governor General and what a mighty job he did.

Cleaned out the swamp.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 9:21pm
On what basis and for what reasons did he do so Macca?

Rather, for instance than keeping out of politics and simply allowing the people to make its decision at the next election.




Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 10:51pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Dont worry though, it will be about China when Isaac arrives.Thumbs Up

back to the era when labor swooned after CHINA!
the beginning of the end of manufacturing in AUSTRALIA.
Do you think Gough had that in mind pt? 
MAKE CHINA GREAT LOL

your turn pt  to entwine trump into it.....


Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 10:52pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

he was a soak.

bit wet somewhere max?


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 1:46am
I wonder who funded this historian to appear before the High Court to gain access to Kerr’s correspondence with the Queen. As anybody would know to appear before the High Court it would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in Court costs to fund both sides. Who and why would a humble historian go to such lengths to gain access to those papers ? Is someone digging for something?


Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 1:56am
I’ve got no barrow to push here,
Whitlam government was so on the nose with the electorate, that they didn’t care what acts of bastardry were involved in tossing Whitlam out, they just wanted him gone ASAP.

It was a huge moment in our history.
It’s been long enough, why shouldn’t it be released?




Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 9:40am
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Everone is pizzed at the CUP...

Read the History Books re Kerr.     . he sacked Whitlam.

But what did our head of state advise him to do or not do?


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 11:45am
Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

I wonder who funded this historian to appear before the High Court to gain access to Kerr’s correspondence with the Queen. As anybody would know to appear before the High Court it would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in Court costs to fund both sides. Who and why would a humble historian go to such lengths to gain access to those papers ? Is someone digging for something?


Bret Walker, SC, Australia's most expensive barrister, was her lawyer, so I have no doubt he was pro bono.


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Simon Cameron



Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 11:51am
Who could complain about the truth coming out, about the machinations that preceded the "dismissal".


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 11:56am
In December 2016, Professor Jenny Hocking initiated a Federal Court action against the National Archives of Australia, seeking the release of these historic ‘Palace letters’. The legal action is supported by a crowd-funding campaign through Chuffed with a legal team working on a pro bono basis led by senior barristers Antony Whitlam QC at trial and Bret Walker SC at the Appeal with Tom Brennan, instructed by Corrs Chambers Westgarth.


https://www.whitlam.org/publications/2020/3/9/does-australia-have-a-right-to-know" rel="nofollow - https://www.whitlam.org/publications/2020/3/9/does-australia-have-a-right-to-know


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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 31 May 2020 at 8:24pm
What a good job john Kerr did for Oz.     caused the people to pass judgement on a madman PM.
The people replied and kicked him out .

They were a great Labor lot at the time hahhaha=   =Bob Hawk & Hazel
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They had three children: Susan (born 1957), Stephen (born 1959) and Roslyn (born 1960). Their fourth child, Robert Jr, died in his early infancy in 1963. Hawke was named Victorian Father of the Year in 1971, an honour which his wife disputed due to his heavy drinking and womanising.


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 1:24pm
Hawke’s 1971 Victorian Father of the Year award is treated ironically. The news footage has Hawke looking decidedly sheepish; the long-suffering Hazel privately wondered whether the judges had been on opium.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 1:29pm
As  was Tony Abbott's Prime Ministership treated ironically.

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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 2:11pm
Abbott, Winning 24 seats was a measure of his ability.     Very good PM.

    The record still stands.     In the History books.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 2:15pm
That pregnant silence in the discussion with the channel 7 journo was a better indication of Abbott's ability. sweet FA !


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 2:17pm
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Rudd, Winning 23 seats was a measure of his ability.     Very good PM.

    The record still stands.     In the History books.


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Simon Cameron



Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 2:17pm
Channel 7 Journo's don't inspire anyone to talk.   Best to listen to them.

Or go to another Comedy channel.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 2:23pm
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   Channel 7 Journo's don't inspire anyone to talk.   Best to listen to them.

Or go to another Comedy channel.

It was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen, from a PM. I can still hear the crickets chirping !


Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 4:48pm
always good for a giggle.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wT9XS_TvzQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wT9XS_TvzQ


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 4:56pm
I thought he was having a TIA.


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 3:06pm
As sure as the sun rises tomorrow morning the ALP opposition are all over the release of the private letters between Sir John Kerr and the Queen.. 
Calling for a republic goes without saying.


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 3:20pm
Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

As sure as the sun rises tomorrow morning the ALP opposition are all over the release of the private letters between Sir John Kerr and the Queen.. 
Calling for a republic goes without saying.

Yep, Australia just one step closer to becoming the "People's Republic of China".


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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 3:23pm
max would be in raptures at that statement
but the world is a wake up to CHINA and its ambitions.
THANK GOODNESS


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 3:24pm
Can someone point me to where someone from the ALP is now demanding a republic, on the strength of these letters ?


Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 3:25pm
Labor were trying to tie in the Queen, and what she knew
seems she didnt know until after the fact.



Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 3:46pm
Lets get the BLM crew onto this, and they can swiftly erase all that history, and then none of us needs give a rats about what happened years ago Thumbs Up

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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 4:06pm
MODS ----   Changing peoples posts and then re posting the falsified version , is too prevalent.   
Two suspended members had a habit of doing similar.    I know this one is awhile back .   But this reminder should make us aware - IT'S NOT ON.
Should not be tolerated.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 4:07pm
Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Lets get the BLM crew onto this, and they can swiftly erase all that history, and then none of us needs give a rats about what happened years ago Thumbs Up

Not sure what this is supposed to mean ?


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 4:12pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Can someone point me to where someone from the ALP is now demanding a republic, on the strength of these letters ?

On Sky News after the release of the letters  Albo suggested it was time Australia looked towards having its own Head of State, he was backed by Matt Thistlethwaite


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 4:13pm
The best Coalition Prime Minister of the last 50 years is very much in favour of a Republic. 

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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 4:13pm
Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

max would be in raptures at that statement
but the world is a wake up to CHINA and its ambitions.
THANK GOODNESS
you are a mad thing, Isaac, you equate being wary of anti-Chinese propaganda, as wanting China to take over the world, which is really intellectual pauperization. I have to mark your report card, "not trying hard enough".


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 4:16pm
I prefer knowledge to ignorance,  as I'm sure every historian of the period is. After the release of the letters I know more than I did before. 

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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 4:39pm
Unfortunately we lack the Guts to put shady questions into the "I don't Know Basket".
A wild guess and some grasp for luck , has us hoping we pulled the right reign.
Religion , Climate Change , The Weather, Medical predictions , ETC.

FACTS are WE don't Know... So why pretend to.


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 8:25pm
According to Troy Branston, an authority on the dismissal, the release of these letters have completely debunked Professor Jenny Hocking's ridiculous claims that the Queen was party to Whitlam's dismissal. 
Do not think she will now have a best selling book.Cry


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 8:28pm
Whitlam was a great man, well before his time, a true progressive, if guilty of anything, it was probably of trying to do too much, too quickly. 


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

According to Troy Branston, an authority on the dismissal, the release of these letters have completely debunked Professor Jenny Hocking's ridiculous claims that the Queen was party to Whitlam's dismissal. 
Do not think she will now have a best selling book.Cry


That theory was always long odds since Kerr wanted the letters published to vindicate him.Tongue But the professor has done the nation a great service by smashing the cult of Palace secrecy.Clap


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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 8:49pm

More books have been written about Whitlam, including his own writings, than about any other Australian prime minister. According to Whitlam biographer Jenny Hocking, we all know her don't we,  for a period of at least a decade, the Whitlam era was viewed almost entirely in negative terms, but that has changed. Still, she feels that Australians take for granted programmes and policies initiated by the Whitlam government, such as recognition of China, legal aid, and Medicare. .

Wallace Brown describes Whitlam in his book about his experiences covering Australian prime ministers as a journalist:

Whitlam was the most paradoxical of all Prime Ministers in the last half of the 20th century. A man of superb intellect, knowledge, and literacy, he yet had little ability when it came to economics. ... Whitlam rivalled Menzies in his passion for the House of Representatives and ability to use it as his stage, and yet his parliamentary skills were rhetorical and not tactical. He could devise a strategy and then often botch the tactics in trying to implement that strategy. ... Above all he was a man of grand vision with serious blind spots.

Jenny, even after all your hopes that the Queen was up to her neck in the dismissal your book will not be a best seller as there is nothing to add to what we know..Kerr got in first before Gough could sack him.



Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 9:01pm
Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

More books have been written about Whitlam, including his own writings, than about any other Australian prime minister. According to Whitlam biographer Jenny Hocking, we all know her don't we,  for a period of at least a decade, the Whitlam era was viewed almost entirely in negative terms, but that has changed. Still, she feels that Australians take for granted programmes and policies initiated by the Whitlam government, such as recognition of China, legal aid, and Medicare. .

Wallace Brown describes Whitlam in his book about his experiences covering Australian prime ministers as a journalist:

Whitlam was the most paradoxical of all Prime Ministers in the last half of the 20th century. A man of superb intellect, knowledge, and literacy, he yet had little ability when it came to economics. ... Whitlam rivalled Menzies in his passion for the House of Representatives and ability to use it as his stage, and yet his parliamentary skills were rhetorical and not tactical. He could devise a strategy and then often botch the tactics in trying to implement that strategy. ... Above all he was a man of grand vision with serious blind spots.

Jenny, even after all your hopes that the Queen was up to her neck in the dismissal your book will not be a best seller as there is nothing to add to what we know..Kerr got in first before Gough could sack him.


And Malcolm was the biggest player in the history of Parliament,

He was absolutely brilliant in the down fall of Whitlam.




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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 11:32am
Academic, Professor Jenny Hocking, in a bid to promote her planned new book on the dismissal, said the letters were " every bit the bombshell they promised and neither the Queen or Sir John Kerr emerged unscathed ". Jenny, good luck making a scandal or conspiracy out of those letters,  then again, you might take the opportunity of fictionalizing the book to make a few sales. 

Of course it did not take too long for the "Red Banana", Peter FitzSimons,to put in his two bob's worth saying " the letters left him gobsmacked as the most dramatic in Australian political history was being discussed by unelected English officials". Peter, I don't believe that argument will sway too many over to your Republican Movement.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 12:25pm
A Republic ,   My God Bob ,    surely NEVER.

If it works , don't fix it.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 1:07pm
Charteris writes: "Prince Charles told me a good deal of his conversation with you and in particular that you had spoken of the possibility of the Prime Minister advising The Queen to terminate your Commission with the object, presumably, of replacing you with someone more amenable to his wishes. If such an approach was made you may be sure that The Queen would take most unkindly to it."


Hmm, starting to smell, Madge.Wink


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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 1:08pm
Kerr, pizzed at the Melbourne Cup presentation, no more need be said, should have been summarily dismissed, if you are pizzed at work that is what should happen. Not worth two bob.


Posted By: Baguette
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 1:09pm
Becoming a Republic would be very complicated . If it is for us it’s even more complicated for the UK if they ever wanted to get rid of the monarchy. The Westminster System of government we inherited evolved slowly over the decades and centuries with the monarchy slowly ceding political power to the Parliament till we ended up with what we have now. It’s not like the USA whose system of government came about through revolution with a group of citizens deciding how they wanted to be governed and writing out all the rules for that from the beginning of the nation. Our Constitution was written at Federation for a British Dominion, not a sovereign nation . We’d probably have to rip it up and start again if we wanted no ties at all to the British Monarchy. Can you imagine writing a new constitution in the current political climate? Our politicians can’t agree what day it is so it would be interesting.


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 1:13pm
It certainly would be interesting getting it done.   Imagine the s**t fight that would go on, and Fitzsimmons in the thick of it.  LOLCry

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 1:17pm
I can't even remember how I voted at the 1999 referendum. Embarrassed


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 11:57am
Not be outdone by Peter FitzSimons, Bill Shorten, who since his loss at the 2019 federal election is seen even less in the public domain,  has weighed in with his view on the Kerr Letters, saying "the release of the palace letters “should reignite the push for an Australian republic”.

He also signalled his belief that the sacking of Whitlam was akin to foreign interference in our democracy. “This is not about attacking Queen Elizabeth herself, who many Australians have a great deal of respect for, me included,” he said.

“The English royals are a photo of our country from 1900, but in 2020, modern Australia should have one of our own, an Australian, as head of state. Australians should also get the prime minister they vote for free from interference from a foreign power.”



Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 12:16pm
Poor old Bill. "get the PM they vote for", I have never been able to cast a vote as to who becomes PM, or stays as PM, the system being explicit in that the PM is a role that is occupied by a vote of elected members. You can vote for the person who is, or may become PM, if you happen to live in their seat, but this dumb quasi-presidential idea is not written into our constitution anywhere. That dumb political parties want to make it difficult to change the PM, which is a form of kow-towing to that sector of the electorate whose voting appears to revolve around whether they "like" the party figurehead, is a retrograde step.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 12:56pm
Republic ---- Surely Your Joking.     If it works , don't fix it.

     Civil War would follow ...     The Hawke Army is still in uniform .

Let's stick with the Dopes we've got.


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Republic ---- Surely Your Joking.     If it works , don't fix it.

     Civil War would follow ...     The Hawke Army is still in uniform .

Let's stick with the Dopes we've got.
Yeah , as one dope to the others we have leave it B .Wink


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 4:20pm
In the end, it was Whitlam who appointed Kerr. It is highly arguable that he "erred with Kerr"


Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2020 at 1:58pm

Released correspondence shows there was no conspiracy between Kerr and the palace

When it comes to promoting conspiracy theories in Australia, the left intelligentsia is tops.

Remember the claim that the anti-communist Robert Menzies’ Coalition government organised the 1954 defection of diplomats Vladimir and Evdokia Petrov from the Soviet Union’s embassy in Canberra to discredit Labor leader Bert Evatt in the lead-up to the election that year?

Well, this conspiracy theory fell apart when, in September 1984, the Hawke Labor government released all the relevant documents held by the National Archives of Australia. They demonstrated that the Petrovs were significant defectors who provided important intelligence to the West, along with evidence that there was a Soviet Union spy ring in Australia that had infiltrated the department of external affairs and even Evatt’s private office.

Two decades later a new conspiracy was detected by the left. This followed governor-general Sir John Kerr’s decision to dismiss the Gough Whitlam-led Labor government on November 11, 1975.

First up, leftist journalist John Pilger claimed the CIA had prevailed on Kerr to dismiss Whitlam to protect US facilities in Australia. This theory is still extant but has lost its force due primarily to the failure of anyone to produce evidence to this effect.

Step forward Jenny Hocking of Monash University, who is perhaps best described as the left’s house historian, with flattering biographies of Labor heroes Whitlam and Lionel Murphy.

In The Dismissal Dossier (MUP), originally was published in 2015, Hocking promoted a new conspiracy: namely that the Queen and her Buckingham Palace advisers were involved in the Dismissal. One chapter was even headed A Very British Coup.

What is lacking from The Dismissal Dossier is any explanation of what interest the Queen would have in Whitlam’s sacking, especially since she has never interfered in the Australian political debate and had no known animus towards Whitlam.

Hocking was not the only academic who sought access to the palace letters. Constitutional law professor Anne Twomey had done so as early as 2012. But Hocking, with the support of some legal backers, took the case to the High Court that Kerr’s correspondence with the palace should be released from the archives. Six out of seven judges held that they were public, not private, documents and should be released before the scheduled date in 2027.

In the 2017 edition of The Dismissal Dossier, Hocking wrote that on October 16, 1975, visiting British diplomat Sir Michael Palliser had met with Kerr. A close reading of her book revealed there was no evidence that the two had actually met; there was only a draft itinerary drawn up by British officials. Moreover, there was no record of any such discussion. In short, there was not even hearsay evidence.

But this did not deter Hocking. She told the (then) Fairfax Media that British diplomats in London and Canberra were in discussion about the possibility of interfering in Australian politics in the leadup to November 1975. This encouraged her to work harder for the release of the palace letters, declaring: “What is in those files is, to my mind, volcanic.”

It turned out that when the palace letters were released the effect was more like a penny bunger firework than a volcano. They revealed that, in a letter to Sir Martin Charteris, the Queen’s private secretary, dated November 11, 1975, Kerr confirmed that he made his decision “without informing the palace”.

The correspondence also reveals that Charteris wrote to Kerr on November 4, 1975, stating that the reserve powers, which made it possible for him to dismiss Whitlam, involved a “heavy responsibility”. Charteris added that “it is only at the end when there is demonstrably no other course that they should be used”. This was hardly an encouragement.

Not surprisingly, Hocking quickly went into denial. She claimed that the revelations in the palace letters were a “bombshell”, somewhat down the explosive scale from a volcano but real nevertheless. Not so. All they indicate is that Kerr thought it was his duty to keep Australia’s head of state, the Queen, informed about his thinking in response to the political deadlock at home.

In 1975, the palace understood what Hocking does not even understand today. This was an Australian problem that had to be resolved in Australia under the Australian Constitution.

An arrogant and stubborn opposition leader (Malcolm Fraser) was intent on blocking supply and an arrogant and stubborn prime minister (Whitlam) was intent on governing without supply. Meaning money to finance government was running out and November 11, 1975, was the last possible date to arrange for an election that could be completed before the end of the year. So Kerr dismissed Whitlam and installed Fraser as a caretaker prime minister pending an election in mid-December 1975 — which Whitlam could have won but didn’t.

In short, Kerr exercised the reserve powers to break a deadlock between the House of Representatives and the Senate. It was not the first time the reserve powers had been used. In 1932 NSW governor Sir Philip Game dismissed NSW premier Jack Lang for flouting the laws of the commonwealth.

Kerr’s critics fail to answer one point, namely: how else was the deadlock to be resolved? Hocking favoured an election of half the Senate in mid-December 1975. But there is no evidence that this would have led to a Labor majority in the Senate. In any event, the complicated count would not have been completed until some time in January the following year. Kerr took a decision in accordance with the Australian Constitution. It was never challenged in the courts.

As Twomey has pointed out, the only Australian who sought the Queen’s intervention in Australian politics at the time was Whitlam. Charteris wrote to Kerr on November 17, 1975, and mentioned that Whitlam had phoned him at 4.15am (London time) on November 11, 1975, and said he should be recommissioned by the Queen as prime minister, after she had sacked Fraser. But, once again, the palace did not act — and no conspiracy took place.

Gerard Henderson is executive

director of the Sydney Institute.



Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2020 at 3:17pm
Kerr did Australia a great service .        . His Role was to have the People decide on the Gough situstion and that they did ...      The vote of the people sent Gough to the Political ,Knackery ,   Where he belonged.



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