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Topic: Quick Thinker
Posted By: djebel
Subject: Quick Thinker
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 10:23pm
QUICK THINKER (AUS)Brown colt 2016 
So You Think
Bay 2006
High Chaparral
Bay 1999
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Kasora
Brown 1993
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Delsy
1975
1972
1-l
13-c
Kozana
Brown 1982
Kris
Koblenza
1976
1966
2-o
1-n
Triassic
Bay 1990
Tights
Bay 1981
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Dancealot
Bay 1971
Round Table
Music Please
1954
1963
2-f
16-g
Astral Row
Brown 1979
Long Row
Brown 1970
Linacre
Front Row
1960
1965
15-a
42>
Pak Bun Bay
Bay 1970
Matinee Idol
Philipolo
1956
1960
13-e
13-a
Acouplamas
Bay 2006
Al Maher
Bay 2001
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Show Dancing
Brown 1993
Don't Say Halo
Bay or brown 1982
Halo
Never Babble
1969
1976
2-d
1-s
Dancing Show
Bay 1983
Nijinsky
Show Lady
1967
1976
8-f
8-f
Mahira
Brown 2000
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Jesmond Lass
Chestnut 1975
Lunchtime
Beautiful Dreamer
1970
1967
7-f
14>
Tilly Foster
Bay 1981
Vice Regal
Brown 1973
Bismark
Kind Regards
1967
1966
13-c
3-e
Gentle Thoughts
Bay 1971
Ardistaan
Watch It
1965
1961
9-c
16>
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,5m x 5m Nijinsky4m x 5f


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 10:25pm
Rising Star for So You Think
Tara Madgwick - Saturday August 31
Astute Kiwi trainers Murray Baker and Andrew Forsman have a great record in Australia when they bring over classy three year-olds and exciting prospect Quick Thinker showed he can be a real star this spring with a dominant win in the Group III ATC Ming Dynasty Quality at Rosehill on Saturday. 



Second on debut last April, Quick Thinker won the Listed Champagne Stakes at Ellerslie over 1600 metres at his second start before heading for a spell and the son of So You Think was having his first run since then on Saturday.

Quick thinker - images Steve Hart

Quick thinker - images Steve Hart

Connections feared 1400 metres on heavy ground might not be ideal for the son of So You Think, but under a col ride from Hugh Bowman his class shone through.

Quick Thinker settled back in the field and surged to the line to win by two lengths and has now two of three starts earning over $100,000 and has his sights set on all the major spring goals for staying three year-olds.

"Hughie won this race for us on Lion Tamer a few years ago and he went on to do good things so hopefully this guy can do the same," co-trainer Andrew Forsman said.

"He looked a little bit in trouble coming to the top of the straight and he had a lot to do but won with authority in the end and I think that's a sign of a good horse."
Quick Thinker is majority-owned by OTI Racing and director Terry Henderson was on hand to greet Quick Thinker after his win.

"I think he might be a special horse," Henderson said."He really has impressed all the way through and I know Murray and Andrew had a great opinion of him.

"He just hasn't put a foot wrong so far. I wouldn't have thought today would be his day because a wet track over 1400m, I would have thought he needed the 2000m.

"To see him hit the line like that is very exciting."

Quick Thinker as a yearling

Quick Thinker as a yearling

Quick Thinker was a $100,000 Inglis Easter purchase from the Coolmore draft for De Burgh Equine and was bred by Bowcock Bloodstock. He is a half-brother to Group III placed The August from stakes-placed Al Maher mare Acouplamas, who comes from the family of Group I classic winners Blackfriars and Larrocha.

The current two year-old from Acouplamas, a colt by Zoustar, made $1,075,000 at Magic Millions this year for KBL Thoroughbreds when bought by Yu Long Investments/ RIFA Mustang.

He is one of 19 stakes-winners for So You Think, who went close to siring a new Group I winner on Saturday when So Si Bon finished a game second in the Group I MRC Memsie Stakes at Caulfield.

The best son of the late great High Chaparral (IRE), So You Think stands at a fee of $38,500 at Coolmore this spring.


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 10:29pm
1800 Gloaming Stakes in 3 weeks
2000 Spring Champion Stakes 2 weeks later.

3 weeks to the Victoria Derby 2500m.

Be interesting to see what they do between the Champion and Derby ?




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Posted By: Majestic
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 10:37pm
Good trainers will keep it up to him in the 3 weeks. Why are you worried about a 3 week break between races?


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 10:49pm
Well, I am not myself but it is an Australasianism to run them into the ground every fortnight.

Our "pattern racing" is constantly being changed, not necessarily upgraded. 

Lion Tamer - had a more traditional Australasianism campaign 1400m, 2 weeks 1800m, 2 weeks 2000m, 3 weeks 2040m, 1 week 2500m.

1st of 13 https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/Meeting.aspx?meetcode=NjI5OTEyNDczMg%3d%3d#Race7" rel="nofollow - RAND 04Sep10  1400m Heavy9 M/DYNASTY Listed $100,000 ($60,000)  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/JockeyLastRuns.aspx?jockeycode=MTU3NzcxMTUy" rel="nofollow - Hugh Bowman  58kg Barrier 1 Rtg 76 
2nd  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?horsecode=Njg1MTE3MzEwNA%3d%3d&src=horseform&raceEntry=NTMxMDA2ODk1MDg%3d" rel="nofollow - Praecido (NZ)  56.5kg, 3rd  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?horsecode=Njc2MTQ0NzU0MQ%3d%3d&src=horseform&raceEntry=NTMxMDA2ODk1MDg%3d" rel="nofollow - Levi's Choice  58kg 1:27.98 (600m 40.65), 0.5L, 11th@800m, 11th@400m, $10/$17
7th of 11 https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/Meeting.aspx?meetcode=NjI5OTM1MDcyMg%3d%3d#Race6" rel="nofollow - RHIL 18Sep10  1800m Good3 GLOAMING Group 3 $251,800  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/JockeyLastRuns.aspx?jockeycode=Mzg2NjgzOTU2MA%3d%3d" rel="nofollow - Glyn Schofield  56.5kg Barrier 2 Rtg 82 
1st  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?horsecode=NjcyMTg3NjY5Mg%3d%3d&src=horseform&raceEntry=NTMyNTg1NTEwNTY%3d" rel="nofollow - Retrieve  56.5kg, 2nd  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?horsecode=NjczNDQ4NjkzNA%3d%3d&src=horseform&raceEntry=NTMyNTg1NTEwNTY%3d" rel="nofollow - Erewhon  56.5kg 1:48.28 (600m 35.71), 10.2L, 9th@800m, 9th@400m, $6/$7.5/$6.50
5th of 12 https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/Meeting.aspx?meetcode=NjI5NTU2MTYyMw%3d%3d#Race6" rel="nofollow - RAND 02Oct10  2000m Good4 SPR CHAMP Group 1 $403,300 ($8,000)  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/JockeyLastRuns.aspx?jockeycode=Mzg2NjgzOTU2MA%3d%3d" rel="nofollow - Glyn Schofield  56.5kg Barrier 7 Rtg 82 
1st  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?horsecode=NjczNDQ4NjkzNA%3d%3d&src=horseform&raceEntry=NTMwMDM0Njg2MTA%3d" rel="nofollow - Erewhon  56.5kg, 2nd  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?horsecode=NjcyMTg3NjY5Mg%3d%3d&src=horseform&raceEntry=NTMwMDM0Njg2MTA%3d" rel="nofollow - Retrieve  56.5kg 2:02.95 (600m 36.23), 5.2L, 10th@800m, 10th@400m, $14/$14
2nd of 14 https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/Meeting.aspx?meetcode=NjIxNzA5MDM2Mg%3d%3d#Race6" rel="nofollow - M V 23Oct10  2040m Good4 AAMI VASE Group 2 $215,000 ($36,000)  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/JockeyLastRuns.aspx?jockeycode=MTU3NzcxMTUy" rel="nofollow - Hugh Bowman  57kg Barrier 4 Rtg 84 
1st  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?horsecode=Mzc2OTI3ODE3MDQ%3d&src=horseform&raceEntry=NTM2Nzk3NTEyMTg%3d" rel="nofollow - Rekindled Interest  57kg, 3rd  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?horsecode=Njc1MTY0NzEwOA%3d%3d&src=horseform&raceEntry=NTM2Nzk3NTEyMTg%3d" rel="nofollow - Hollowlea  57kg 2:07.09 (600m 36.70), 2.5L, 1st@800m, 3rd@400m, $18/$17
1st of 16 https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/Meeting.aspx?meetcode=NjIxNzE5NTgyNA%3d%3d#Race6" rel="nofollow - FLEM 30Oct10  2500m Soft6 VIC DERBY Group 1 $1,510,000 ($910,000)  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/JockeyLastRuns.aspx?jockeycode=MTU3NzcxMTUy" rel="nofollow - Hugh Bowman  55.5kg Barrier 14 Rtg 88 
2nd  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?horsecode=Njg1MTE3MzEwNA%3d%3d&src=horseform&raceEntry=NTMzNDg3NTg3MzE%3d" rel="nofollow - Praecido (NZ)  55.5kg, 3rd  https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?horsecode=NjcyMTg3NjY5Mg%3d%3d&src=horseform&raceEntry=NTMzNDg3NTg3MzE%3d" rel="nofollow - Retrieve  55.5kg 2:46.43 (600m 35.96), 6.5L, 2nd@800m, 1st@400m, $13/$13


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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 11:56pm
And it appears the one they wanted to win the most......guess what! they won!......nothing like having a plan that pays off.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2019 at 8:47pm

“She needs to run, so I had to choose between the two race, just to get some mileage into her.

"She will go to 2000m more likely in the Turnbull or Hill Stakes.

"I think when you do train at a place like https://www.racenet.com.au/tracks/nsw/rosehill" rel="nofollow - Rosehill you need to get that race mileage into them.

"We can’t be going into the Caulfield Cup underdone, so she needs to run every two weeks from now on."


Waller, on Youngstar

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/waller-alters-verry-elleegant-s-training-regime-for-george-main-20190919








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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 1:33am
Just saw the vision of Oppie being s#2t on by a passing bird during the interview.

The comment that the Thoroughbred Weekly presenters should have said was that the bird had backed Zebrowski, and was irritated at Opie's winning ride.

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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2021 at 8:44pm
Last year AJC Derby winner resumes on Saturday over 1400m.

Where do we see him fitting in this autumn?

Holds entries for the QE Stks (outclassed?) & Sydney Cup (is he really a 2 miler?)

He beat Zebrowski twice in the Tulloch & Derby, and he didnt really frank the form in the spring with only mediocre efforts in Melb staying races.

Murray Baker is a wily old genius.  But my gut feeling is Quick Thinker is a G2/3 horse for the Sydney carnival (like. Sky High Stks or Neville Selwood Stks) and maybe a Doomben Cup in the winter.


Posted By: John Anthony
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2021 at 9:41pm
Forsman quite bullish about him in interviews. Personally think he's in the Sydney cup up to his ears. What makes you think he isn't a 2miler


Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2021 at 2:08am
Depends on what weight he gets in the Sydney Cup.

The Chosen One is in career best form and he is a proven 2 miler, loves randwick and loves the wet tracks Sydney gets.

I would assume being an ATC Derby winner gives Quick Thinker at least 56 kilos and that gives him a hope, but I would still rather back the stable mate. 


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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 9:25pm
Desperately needs some wet tracks.  If it’s going to be a dry Sydney carnival, connections might as well save him for the Qld winter.


Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 11:54pm
Yep that's right. He clearly likes the track wet. Doesn't like it firm. QLD carnival could be a good choice 

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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers


Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2021 at 9:24am
Got soft track conditions to suit yesterday & still didn’t aim up.  Think it would be wise to redirect him to some weaker races in the Qld winter.


Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2021 at 10:17am
Probably reached his peak career performance in the ATC Derby last year and hasn't been able to find that form again. It happens to a lot of Derby winners over the years. Just has no zip at all. 

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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers


Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2021 at 9:30pm
I should know better than to doubt a wily old Kiwi like Murray Baker!

Strong win by QT today.

Probably still prefer the likes of Southern France, The Chosen One & Realm of Flowers, but QT is in the mix for sure.


Posted By: jacko1
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2021 at 11:02pm
Seems to like Randwick at 2400m+.


Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2021 at 12:39pm
Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

Probably reached his peak career performance in the ATC Derby last year and hasn't been able to find that form again. It happens to a lot of Derby winners over the years. Just has no zip at all. 

Mate was very zippy yesterday, almost overraced in the run and had a very sharp sprint when they straightened.


Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2021 at 12:43pm
Pardon My Dust - thats good to hear you were happy. Good to see Quick Thinker win. I wonder if the week back up will harm his chances for the Sydney Cup?

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Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2021 at 4:27pm
Judging by that run it will top him off nicely.


Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2021 at 7:02pm
Backed up last year from the Tulloch to the Derby, so that is the least of his worries.

This is shaping as a very good edition of the Sydney Cup. 

From memory we should see Quick Thinker, Rondinella, The Chosen One, Favorite Moon, Realm Of Flowers, Sound, Platinum Invader, Paths Of Glory, Selino, Sir Charles Road, She's Ideel, Miami Bound, Southern France, Shraaoh and Spirit Ridge.

Some in form horses, some suited at the 3200m and some who will look to be well weighted.

On a slow or worse Quick Thinker gets his chance.  


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Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 9:58am
Paths Of Glory was a great run on Saturday Rachel didn't give it much of a chance taking on the Waterhouse duo out in front. Can win the Cup with a decent sit.


Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 1:04pm
Will Quick Thinker be getting a weight penalty for the Sydney Cup for winning the G2 Chairman's Quality (2600m)? If yes - has a penalty or no penalty been announced?

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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 3:14pm
The winner of the Chairmans is exempt from penalty 

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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 6:45pm
Originally posted by Pardon_My_Dust Pardon_My_Dust wrote:

Paths Of Glory was a great run on Saturday Rachel didn't give it much of a chance taking on the Waterhouse duo out in front. Can win the Cup with a decent sit.

I am not sure he can run the 3200m PMD, however I do know that that is the way to ride him.

Maybe not push on during the race as Rachel did, but I mean you need to get him to break well from the gate and put him into the first five in running.

If he draws a gate and can run the 3200m, he is a chance, but this looks like being a very strong Sydney Cup.


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Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 8:08pm
Fair enough. I saw him win a Wyong Cup sitting back in the run on the fence but the field really bunched at the 400m and he got a great run through so he was in the right position to win. I wont be backing him either way.


Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 9:33pm
Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

The winner of the Chairmans is exempt from penalty 

Thanks Shawy. Cheers mate.


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Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2021 at 3:26pm
Is a different horse on soft and heavy tracks and I noticed there is rain forecasted for Melbourne from Wednesday through to Saturday. 

But surely Quick Thinker could win the Caulfield Cup? Does love the wet track though. Doesnt go as good on a dry track. Strange things can happen in Caulfield Cups sometimes.


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Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2021 at 3:28pm
*couldnt

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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2021 at 11:09am
Unfortunate news this morning, with Quick Thinker found with a tendon issue on morning check-up. He will be scratched from tomorrow's Caulfield Cup. Most disappointing for all connections, including
https://twitter.com/ForsmanAndrew" rel="nofollow - @ForsmanAndrew
and Murray Baker.

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Posted By: Foxseal
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2021 at 5:07pm
Announced today that he’s retired & will be heading back to NZ to look for a home at stud.


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2022 at 12:24pm
listed for sale as a stallion prospect
https://inglisdigital.com/lot/30000148.382.htm" rel="nofollow - https://inglisdigital.com/lot/30000148.382.htm


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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2022 at 12:24pm

Quick Thinker ~ Group 1-winning stallion prospect by leading sire So You Think

Winner of the G1 ATC Derby at Randwick with a Timeform Rating of 115 defeating G1 winners Shadow Hero, Castelvecchio, Sherwood Forest, Warning etc.

Stakes winning 2YO over 1600m on just his second start, Quick Thinker was highly versatile winning from 1400m and upwards.

4-time Group winner as a 3YO & 4YO including the G3 Ming Dynasty over 1400m and G2 Tulloch Stakes over 2000m at Rosehill

Physically, he stands at 16 hands high. He has a very attractive, masculine head and alert eye. He has a deep girth with strong muscle definition and a big, loose action. He has always moved with purpose. He realised $180,000 as a weanling when bought by bloodstock agent and renowned judge, James Bester, prior to being sold as a yearling at the Easter Yearling Sale.

Since his retirement in November 2021, he has let down beautifully, as can be seen in the parade vision.

Quick Thinker is by Champion racehorse and leading sire, So You Think, and out of the stakes placed mare Acouplamas. He has an excellent pedigree and hails from a dominant sire line that has had impressive representation at stud over recent seasons.

Descendants of High Chaparral standing at stud have sired 18 individual G1 winners worldwide including Masked Crusader, Think It Over, Super Seth, Castelvecchio etc

Siblings include Seasons - a 4-time Group winner/placed up to 1200m, as well as The August - a Stakes placed 3YO over 1200m and Metro winning 2YO over 1100m. Yulong Code, now four-time winning 4YO sold for $1,075,000 as a yearling. This is the family of G1 winners Blackfriars and Larrocha.

Quick Thinker’s current ownership group wishes to continue to support the entire at stud, and welcomes discussion on the level of future involvement. For more information, please contact the team at Inglis or Terry Henderson +61 (0) 412 330 523.

Location:201 Sharpes Road MINERS REST VIC


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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2022 at 1:35pm
djebel is about to take a hammer to his daughter's piggy bank.


Posted By: Take2
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2022 at 3:11pm
would do better in oz than in the shaky isles

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