Andrea Mantegna
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Topic: Andrea Mantegna
Posted By: Shawy38
Subject: Andrea Mantegna
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 11:33am
| Weir import first run in Aus today at Geelong. Really impressed by the recent trials, can the dart hit the board today? |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 11:56am
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He has a couple of imports in today doesn't he ? ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 11:58am
------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 11:59am
| Nacar was scratched. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 2:24pm
| Scrawny looking thing but just way too good for them |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 2:30pm
------------- reductio ad absurdum |
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Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2017 at 2:58pm
| Wins again? |
Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:41am
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Easy win in SA, Adelaide Cup horse? ------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes |
Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2018 at 1:07pm
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Morphettville Saturday Hobart Cup Sunday Wonder where he runs? |
Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2018 at 3:14pm
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Ran super again, just found one better. Suspect these two will clash again in the Adelaide Cup ------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2018 at 4:00pm
| What dist is the Adelaide Cup now? Can't see either figuring if its 2M. |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2018 at 4:03pm
Thankfully the SAJC has kept the Adelaide Cup at 3200m |
3blindmice wrote:Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2018 at 4:29pm
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AM has been set for it ------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes |
Posted By: MorphettvilleMauler
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2018 at 10:21am
genuinely curious as to why you think neither will figure in the 3200m range (Adelaide Cup is 2miles)?
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Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2018 at 11:08am
Could be very wrong - happens quite a lot  - but neither impresses me as the grinding 2 miler type which seem to win that race in recent years.
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Posted By: MorphettvilleMauler
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2018 at 11:40am
fair enough, i am not sure if they can grind it out either. dunno who the early contenders are. exalted lightning for grant young might be worth a punt.
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 24 May 2018 at 1:37pm
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This stallion is Lot 963 at the upcoming Inglis sale at Oaklands Junction. He seemed to be hitting his straps as a handy stayer over the summer. Will be interesting to see where he ends up. |
Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 12:54pm
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Sold $100,000 Darren Weir purchased. ------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes |
Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 1:03pm
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Will now race in the 'Roll The Dice' (Mahuta) colours. ------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 3:07pm
| I see the new owners are gelding him |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 3:08pm
| Spring target is the Bendigo/Ballarat Cup double |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2018 at 5:26pm
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Very tidy return in the Gold Nugget today. Definitely on track for the Spring country Cups scene. Hope the owners have a fun & successful time with him. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2018 at 6:03pm
Good luck to the new owners including our very own Crooked Gambler 
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 2:13pm
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Well done to the horse & connections. Tidy $38,500 prizemoney cheque today in the Ararat Cup 
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 2:28pm
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Off to Ballarat now
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2018 at 9:51am
| Good luck today crooked gambler. Having a crack at the Ballarat Cup |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 6:32pm
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Hi all Just letting you know we have changed trainers to Archie Alexander Cheers CG ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 8:04am
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Good luck today CG! I’ve tipped your guy to be victorious at his hurdle debut today. |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 9:03am
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Thanks LH We have targeted this race for him this prep. Trials have been alright - but his Raceday performance has been lacklustre this prep. Hopefully this is the spark he needs. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 9:26am
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From the stable website: Racing Preview - 12/02/19Warrnambool + Andrea Mantegna + hurdles = exciting. The opportunity to take a horse with serious Flat form over obstacles is an extremely luring one, and ANDREA MANTEGNA (Race 1, Richard Cully) fits the bill to a tee. As a smart performer on the level who jumps really well, there’s every reason to think he can make the transition. We’re counting on him not over-exerting himself in the early stages, as if he can switch off his ability from the Flat could and should prove deadly at the latter end of the race. Darabad and Double Bluff do also bring over good form, so it is probably an above average race of its type. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 11:26am
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He did a good job ------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 11:51am
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I do not want to be a party pooper and I could be talking through my pocket but I thought he was rather lacklustre. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 16 May 2019 at 11:18am
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Congrats CG and co. ------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 May 2019 at 12:05pm
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That was a vast improvement jumped perfectly. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 16 May 2019 at 12:40pm
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A lot of them always seem to improve second time around ------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 4:17pm
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Thanks to CG for the detailed explanation on Andrea’s last start failure at Gawler. Well if he is pressing on for another start this winter, there’s a 3200m hurdle worth $45,000 on at Morphettville next weekend. I’m not expecting noms to be that strong, so it might be a race to think about. He’s done pretty well on 3 previous trips to Morphettville with a win & 2 placings from 3 starts. |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 4:23pm
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All things being equal the fact he over-raced last start wasn't a real good sign. Guess we'll all know a bit more next time around.
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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 4:36pm
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You’re welcome. I’m only a minor entry in a syndicate so don’t have much say. I’ve been extremely happy with RTD and Archie so will trust their decision. For those that are interested. The post race report below: What a frustrating race to watch for owners of big Magna who made the trip to Gawler to contest another hurdle race last Saturday. With winkers added to get him to focus more on his racing. he jumped well from the barrier and settled into third spot just as the leaders dropped anchor, and he fired up immediately. Unfortuanately the pace was horrible for a lap and a half, and Magna pulled all the way. Jockey Richard Cully should have given him his head and allowed him to bowl along in front. Instead he chose to fight him for 2000m, and no horse can finish a race off after doing that much work in the run. He did however work to the line well under the circumstances to finish fourth. The horse has pulled up remarkably well and we will plan to take the winkers off and change jockeys before finding him another jumps race before the end of the season. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2019 at 12:37pm
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Well I’m on Andrea today. Surprised he’s third in the market, thought he’d be fave. Robbies Star generally needs super heavy track to show his best, whilst I don’t think the form behind You’ll Dash For Cash is very strong. I reckon AM is well placed. Give him strength 🤞 |
Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2019 at 1:37pm
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He still overraces rather fiercely. Only just missed. |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2019 at 12:45pm
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He tries so hard, decided to send him for a well deserved spell. See below stable report: It was another huge effort by big Magna on Saturday in Adelaide to only just miss again for a second. Ridden much more positively by Tom Ryan the horse was a little keen early and he was allowed to stride along and went to the lead. Coming to the final two hurdles a win looked likely. Unfortunately he just hit the last hurdle at pace and lost a little momentum, and the horse inside him snuck up for a win by the barest of margins. His current preparation has ticked over 12 months and we now feel it's time to give him a well earned spell. He will have a good three to four month break now and be prepared for the Warrnambool carnival next season. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 12:58pm
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Handy hurdler resuming tonight at MV over 1600m. Has changed stables from Archie Alexander to Paul Preuesker. Can’t recall Paul having many jumpers over the years. Hopefully part-owner Crooked Gambler is still around & can give us some insight on reason for the stable change. |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 3:47pm
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Hey everyone. The big fella is tracking up well for his target of the May Carnival at Warrnambool. Will definitely need a few flat races to build up some fitness before he hits the hurdle trials The crew felt as though Pauls facilities would be better suited to the horse, lots of swimming and sand work. He has thrived in the country air but he is just going for a night out tonight. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 3:52pm
| Cheers CG. |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 8:04pm
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Battled on well for a 4th placing. Can go to bed with a smile on my face.  ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 29 Feb 2020 at 8:26pm
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Another tidy run by your boy today Crooked Gambler - 3rd in the Wang Cup. He might be able to pick up a flat race before he goes jumping again. |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 10:43am
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Magna pulled up with a couple of little issues at Warrnambool so he has gone down to Kel Bourke at Geelong who has been training him on the beach He is having a spin around today to see if we can get his prep back on the right track Will be looking to see him making late ground ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 3:30pm
| He did a good job CG |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 7:18pm
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Good run today CG 👍. Kelvin Bourke is a wily old trainer. Gun jumps jockey in the 70’s. He used to train heaps of jumpers in the 80’s & 90’s but haven’t seen him with one for many years. Hope your boy can put him back in the jumps racing winners circle. |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2020 at 4:15pm
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Terrific run again today. Hope CG had some loose change on him for the place.
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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2020 at 4:48pm
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Thanks LH. Very happy with Magna today. He is always so honest. The plan is to target some of those 2400+ races in Adelaide, today was a good start. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2020 at 2:18pm
Just a little update on Magna, hes had another change of trainers . So many Ive lost count  Unfortunately because of the whole border shutdown and our intention of targeting a couple of those weaker Adelaide staying races we have had to transfer him to an Adelaide trainer. We have been lucky enough to find a beach set up with David Jolly so he will be staying with David until he comes back to Victoria ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2020 at 2:50pm
Glad to see he'll be in a beach environment at Goolwa (I assume?) & no doubt you are too. He won't be losing anything thru' the trainer switch anyway. BOL cg & thanks 
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2020 at 1:52pm
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Stuck on ok today for 4th at Gawler. Should be one of these weaker SA staying races for him this campaign.
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 7:07pm
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Love to hear your thoughts on todays race CG? 2nd over the line but certainly a controversial result.
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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2020 at 11:28am
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Not happy about the decision at all. What is the point of having a whip rule if they are not going to do anything about it? I am of the belief that if you break a rule, you be disqualified. Just like you would for a swab or weighing in light. How one can clearly cheat and not just one rule, he used the whip 13 times (thats nearly triple the allowance) he also used it in multiple strides which is also not allowed. Clearly the rule is a joke if the Stewards think a piss weak fine and jockey suspension is acceptable. Who is to say if we were allowed to use the whip more that our horse wins.... we did the right thing and the other horse didnt. Not happy Jan!!! ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2020 at 5:51pm
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Feel for you CG, but I think we can now safely say with the evidence we have that the rule is just a piece of window dressing for the animal rights activists and it has nothing to do with actual racing rule breaches. ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 2:26pm
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Got the choccies today
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 2:26pm
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Tough effort & richly deserved win
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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 11:37am
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Magna has travelled back over to Vic and is going around in the Horsham Cup today with M Rodd on board Have had a long term plan to target this race along with the Ararat Cup so expect him to run well today Fingers crossed ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 12:16pm
| Good luck then crooked, hope your well old son. |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 12:27pm
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Good luck CG! The spring bush cups are a fun circuit to follow - Horsham, St Arnaud, Ararat, Dunkeld, etc.
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:43pm
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Great result Crooked
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:56pm
Congrats. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 4:16pm
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 8:05pm
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Congrats CG.
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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 8:16pm
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Thankyou everyone for all your support, appreciate it. Massive thrill, big thanks to David and Kristy from the stable who looks after our boy Magna. In his short time in SA he has become a stable favourite Onwards and Upwards to the next one now ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 9:15am
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Our boy Magna is going to have a crack at some black type today. Goes around in the John Letts Cup at Morphettville Stable have said the horse is going super, so we may as well have a crack whilst he is in form Cheers ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 9:47am
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Best Of Luck ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Foxseal
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2020 at 12:14pm
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Geez CG, well done! The team has got Andrea Mantegna in brilliant form
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Posted By: brave_ponies
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2020 at 2:02pm
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Congrats crooked! He's a genuine one
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2020 at 2:26pm
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Gee he is a tough old bugger, just like his owner
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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2020 at 7:08pm
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Thanks guys, appreciate the comments He has pulled up well and had a good week, the stable have picked out a race at Morphettville in a couple of weeks time, also earmarked the Werribee Cup as another option ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2020 at 2:33pm
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Good luck Crooked, scr from Adelaide to run at MV Hope it pays off
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2020 at 3:02pm
| Runs 4th, and gave his all as always to be beaten only 1.4L at $21. |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 01 May 2021 at 6:51pm
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Notice this guy has had a change of stable. Now with Andrew Bobbin at Stawell & accepted for a 1700m race at the Bool on Tuesday. Good luck to TBV member Crooked Gambler!
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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 04 May 2021 at 10:46am
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Great to have Magna back in Victoria and we are allowed to go and see him which is even better. Been really impressed with the Bobbin set up, no doubt he is going to need the run, but he is ready to go. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 14 May 2021 at 1:18pm
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Magna will have a spin around in the Casterton Cup on Sunday. Will prove fitter for the run. Will head back to Jolly in SA after that. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 21 May 2021 at 1:06pm
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Magna has arrived back in SA and settled in well with the Jolly stable. He will head towards a couple of races at Morphettville now but the ultimate aim for him is the Darwin Cup in August. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 4:47pm
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Hope CG can give us some insight into his horses current form. Was in super form in 2020, his 3 runs for 2021 have been pretty plain. Perhaps he just needs Good track conditions.
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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 7:43pm
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The old boy is in good condition, no excuses for his performances, other than maybe lack of fitness. We are trying to get him up to Darwin for the Cup. He would need to improve next time out though, otherwise it might be time for the old boy to hang up the boots. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 7:48pm
| Bourke, Preusker, Jolly, Bobbin, Jolly again. Who's next? |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 8:15pm
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Simple explanation for that really, is mainly due to COVID. Bourke was pre training the horse for Preusker and we needed to get him to the beach, had him stabled there so he could work on the beach as at the time no horses were allowed to travel for work/trials. We then wanted to try him in SA as the staying races are generally easier, at the time the borders were closed so we had to have the horse trained in the state. At the end of the prep he returned to Vic and spelled, Bobbin looked after the horse until he was ready to go back to SA. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 11:33am
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D-Day for our boy Magna today, needs to show us he still wants to do this. Otherwise he will be retired to his forever home. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 12:02pm
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Very best of luck. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 7:04pm
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Missed your race CG, but see your guy improved sharply for 4th today. Whats the wash up from todays effort? Hopefully enough promise there to keep his career going?
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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2021 at 11:10am
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Magna has come through his last run fine so we are sending him over to Port Augusta to have a look at how he handles the dirt. Will go around in the Cup on Sunday over 2300m. He is going to be top weight so will likely claim on him. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2021 at 2:03pm
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We've decided to retire big Magna, he's just had enough of the racing caper! He is heading off for a break before commencing a retraining program which will help determine what's next for him. One thing that is certain, he will be loved forever wherever we end up. ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2021 at 2:40pm
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Top man crooked , you will rest easy at night old son, cheers
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2021 at 10:48pm
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Good on you C.G. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Sister Dot
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 11:40am
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Music to my ears, a very nice start to Saturday
------------- “Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined” |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2021 at 5:17pm
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Just thought I'd pop in with an update as I know Magna had a few followers on TBV. He is now in his forever home absolutely loving life with Tracey, a staff member at David Jolly's. I've attached a pic of the pair lazing about in the paddock. Still looking for my next champ   ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2021 at 5:18pm
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Forgot to mention what he is up to, but he is progressing in his retraining and it is hoped that he will become an eventer in 2022 ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2021 at 5:20pm
| Great photo CG! |