Humidor
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Topic: Humidor
Posted By: SkyDancer
Subject: Humidor
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 8:51am
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Talented ex-kiwi who came out here for one run during the spring. 50% share of the horse has since been purchased by clients of Darren Weir. Will be having his first run for the Weir team this weekend, targeting some Group 1's in Autumn. |
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 3:14pm
| Looks magnificent |
Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 3:18pm
| Just went mad and bolted. I want to get off |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 3:20pm
| He does that all the time. Nothing concerning |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 3:26pm
Just a good spleen dump & super effort running on resolutely............next time  ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Magnolian Khan wrote:Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 3:32pm
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He plays up Enroute almost every start in NZ Weiry took all the gear off, with natural improvement he can win a G1. Being set for the Aus Cup |
Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 4:15pm
| $13 in the oz cup market already. Clearly has ability but no thanks |
Posted By: Einstein
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 6:39pm
| Damian was lucky not to fall off mid bolt. |
Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 10:10am
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Opens $7 with Sportsbet for the Carlyon Stakes this week... was expecting half of that? I trust Weir will work his magic and hopefully the horse is a little more relaxed in the yard before the race. Ready to win!! |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 10:33am
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Think his price for the Aus cup is rubbish at $10.00 across the books, if he was still with his NZ stable he would be at least double that. And I am a big fan of the horse. ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 11:09am
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What about this week Delta? looks a great race for him |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 11:18am
Hard to know until the field comes out, I liked him as a good value runner in the Emirates/ McKinnon and backed him last start but if all those accept that I am thinking might horses like Ecaudor, Burning Front, Grande Rosso might still have a fitness edge over him 2nd up. Until the field comes out I wont rate the race but he isn't jumping out as a standout rater. I would think next start 1800m is when we will see the best of him. ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 11:21am
| Is it true they paid $1m for this bloke? |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 11:30am
They only got 50% but did offer over 1 mil for the full 100% |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 11:31am
The yard behaviour is quite normal for this guy. Carries on like a pork chop back in NZ |
Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 5:34am
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Can Weir turn him into a genuine G1 horse in Australia? I think he can. I know he's already run 2nd in G1 in NZ but that is NZ. Looks a very promising horse. Should run well today.
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Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 5:44am
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I don't actually think he is in the top handful of open age horses in NZ so will make those formlines look good if he can pick up a G1 in Aus. ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 8:36am
| He looks a talent but he also looks like a potential gunna |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 8:40am
| I cant see any reason to jump off the stablemate. |
Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 2:49pm
| Another flashing light run |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 2:55pm
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Outstanding. Simply outstanding. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 2:57pm
| Goes straight he wins according to the rider |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 3:08pm
| Give me a front runner in Burning Front any day. |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 3:14pm
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I thought once clear of the field he should have let him lay in and just ridden him out. He lost too much momentum pulling on his right rein the whole way. Once you're clear let them drift in as they let down faster. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 3:16pm
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Today was never his race, will be tough to beat his next start over 1800m. Wont get as far back the longer the trips get either ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 3:17pm
Humidor has the flashing light on him charging from the back but there is a fair gap between that field and a genuine G1 race. In saying that the further he steps up the better he will be.
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Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 3:20pm
How can you make such an absolute statement about it "never" being his race when he was beaten a neck? All he needed was an ounce of different luck e.g. Tom Melbourne doesn't miss the start and applies more pressure, Master Reset applies more pressure, or he runs slightly straighter in the straight and he wins. Granted it wasn't an ideal race over the trip and track, but I'm not sure it was never his race given the result. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 3:20pm
| Noticed the same thing at his last race- jockey can barely pull him up after the line. He's flying. |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 3:32pm
As I stated earlier in the week I didn't think 1600m would suit 1st Up as I believed Burning Front had a fitness edge and would get and easy time in front. I was even more confident when it was announced that Tom Melbourne would be ridden back for this prep, although I highly doubt Tom Melbourne nor Master Reset have the speed to go with Burning Front at 1600m anyway. I think I also said Humidor would be finishing hard late. This was not his race, next start 1800m is ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: marscay
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 3:43pm
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He was very stiff today not many came from where he did if any and BF got a hot rail and a nice tempo. He would have been a special at Flemington and had a feeling Caulfield would be his undoing. |
Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 5:15pm
| I was on him today, but he needs to improve a whole lot to beat Jameka in Australian Cup. Not saying he can't win the Cup, just that he's still a way off Jameka. |
Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 1:34pm
| Another super run |
Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 1:43pm
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Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 5:58pm
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He is sending me broke , Maybe Flemington suits where he won't roll in ...... ------------- The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on.... |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 6:12pm
| Can anyone tell me, in NZ did he do the majority of his racing left or right handed? |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 6:18pm
------------- The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on.... |
Posted By: MacDougall
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 7:25pm
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That race plated out exactly how I imagined it with the exception of Tom Melbourne not leading and boxing on. Had first and second in a trifecta with TM. Humidor is a very good horse but the run of Exospheric was foreboding. |
Posted By: Racing Carrot
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 8:08pm
He was trained in the Central Districts where every track is left handed and logically would have been trained that way. He was laying in just like that in NZ both last season and in the Spring Classic in October which probably cost him the win. Anyway they got him to the NZ Derby on a rushed prep at start 4, which was his only right handed right. And it went like this..... 11th-18 stipes report-began awkwardly, badly hampered 1800m, rider reported had hung outwards badly throughout and was unable to be fully tested as a result He actually ran on well late but somehow seemed an even more difficult ride that way around.
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Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2017 at 7:04am
I've backed him the last two starts for two seconds... backed him win only of course. I'm on him in the Aus Cup at $26 so maybe that's when he pays me back? |
Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 7:21am
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Just bumping the thread of the future Aus Cup winner... no excuses this week! |
Posted By: marscay
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 12:20pm
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How does he win a race if he keeps hanging though? No gear change either which surprises me. |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 12:53pm
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Marscay, I would love to see the jock go with him when he hangs in instead of fighting him and spoiling his momentum. If he can get him into open space down the centre of Flemington, he may be able to cut loose and hang in without cleaning up other horses. They run faster when they're let go rather than riding on one rein while tugging on the off rein to pull him straight. Either that or get him to the front sooner so he can just run to the rail! ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 1:03pm
Good question... guess we just have to trust Weir re no gear change. He was in front of Stratum Star just after the finishing post so no doubt can still win this race at Flemington if he hangs. Added bonus for his backers if he decides to run straight.... |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 2:00pm
| Weir said after his last run he wants to train him to run straight without needing a gear change. See how he goes. |
Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 9:59am
| Drugging Scandal??? |
Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 10:02am
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A barrage of social media concerning the wellbeing of Australian Cup favourite Humidor sent shockwaves through the Australian racing world on Saturday morning. However, it seems that the outcry about the condition of Humidor was the result of an oversight by the four-year-old's strapper. Advertisement Racing Victoria stewards said that they did a stable inspection at 3am on Saturday morning at the Warrnambool stables of Darren Weir and found a plunger from a syringe in top-line galloper Humidor's feed bin. But stable staff said the plunger contained a liquid that should be lathered over the tongue of the horse to help with its digestive system overnight. "After the inspection it was pointed out that instead of having the liquid put on the horse's tongue it was inadvertently thrown into the feed bin. We have examined the plunger and the liquid inside it and are content that nothing untoward happened," chief steward Terry Bailey said. "It was merely an oversight by an attendant at the stable and the horse is free to run." Humidor is the $4.20 favourite to take out Saturday's $1.25 million Australian Cup. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 10:12am
Bailey on RSN: They give a vitamin preparation syringed over the tongue when they put the feeds in at night but in this case, the staff member left it in the feeder without having given it - oversight & I doubt it'll affect his performance  ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 10:20am
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Harmless medication even if given (don't think it is against the rules to be given night before anyway) ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: The Insider
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 12:10pm
Odd oversight. A syringe in the stall of a G1 favourite. Lucky the stewards found it. Thought the first thing the strapper would have done is check the horses feed bin. Great control |
Posted By: skippy123
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 12:18pm
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Contains cobalt and B12 too.. Recc dose 60ml- big syringe... |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 12:22pm
Have they named what the supplement was? Brand and make-up? ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: skippy123
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 1:10pm
| Hemopar |
Posted By: The Insider
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 1:21pm
Well now we all know the clear day treatment rule doesn't apply to Weir |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 1:26pm
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I cant find anywhere they name the product? Link please? ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: skippy123
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 1:31pm
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https://www.g1x.com.au/news/racing/loaded-syringe-but-nothing-to-it" rel="nofollow - https://www.g1x.com.au/news/racing/loaded-syringe-but-nothing-to-it |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 1:32pm
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Thanks, couldn't find a stewards report/tweet that named the product. ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 1:32pm
the treatment wasn't given.. the needle was still full...... and that type of medication is allowed to be given the day before (yesterday afternoon when it was supposed to be given) ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: skippy123
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 1:39pm
| Yes- and prior to Oct 2015, injectable vitamins were still allowed too, just not after midnight as that would then be Raceday.. |
Posted By: skippy123
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 1:40pm
| Recc dose is 60ml... That's a BIG syringe... |
Posted By: The Insider
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 1:48pm
Is it a needle? I was sure no administration on the day before. |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 2:39pm
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Still laying in, but just very good horse ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 2:40pm
Hope you had a saver  ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 2:41pm
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Very good win, Awesome Rock keeping Jameka out and Mourinho's early move gave him the speed he needed. ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 2:42pm
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What's he going to be like when he puts it all together?? Super performance |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 2:44pm
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BMW 2 weeks is on the radar ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 3:39pm
| Booooooooom! |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 3:46pm
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Impressive. But imo will find it very difficult to beat Jameka - unless of course these two gut-busters in a row end up flattening her.
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Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 3:48pm
Syringe under the mouth, it's to help with digestion |
Posted By: Straight Connector
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 5:25pm
| Big run. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 11:49pm
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Humidor is easily the best horse Darren Weir has trained. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Speediskey
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2017 at 12:39am
Not even close to BHB. |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2017 at 6:00am
He would be in his Top 5, not sure about being No.1 though |
Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2017 at 7:33am
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2017 at 7:46am
| Could be anything this horse. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2017 at 7:54am
Absolutely superior. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2017 at 8:48am
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They certainly don't go backwards in his hands! To be fair, he was the one most suited by the tactics that brought Jameka undone, but he still had to do it. Love the Teofilos! ------------- In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT! |
Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2017 at 8:57am
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Love this horse |
Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2017 at 1:34pm
| Brave in defeat |
Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 7:13am
| Off to the paddock. Will be back in the spring with plans for the two miles at Flemington |
Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 7:57am
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Should be aimed for 2nd in the Plate not 10th in the Cup! |
Posted By: mikey
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 9:29pm
| I have him @ $101 for The Melbourne Cup. Shaping up as a reasonable bet i think. |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 7:06am
Snowflake's hope in hell at 3200m.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 8:55am
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Perhaps the WFA Caulfield Cup is his race to aim at in the spring ? ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 9:03am
You think he will run a strong 2400m? He certainly doesn't at this stage. Not on a heavy track anyway.
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 4:18pm
| What a beast |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 4:46pm
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Huge win. I think it was half set up for him but wow that was still massive. How do they beat him in the Caulfield Cup? Probably only needs to beat Bonneval, and Alamdin if Lloyd wakes up on the morning of the race and decides he'd like to run, having told us he won't/will all the way up to the day. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 4:49pm
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Just wondering Sunny, if he is a Flemington horse? His two group 1 wins have been superior to anything he has done away from headquarters, however he has been in races that may have been unsuitable. I can see him running well but not winning a Caulfield Cup, and then winning the Mackinnon. ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 4:51pm
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Yeah it was in the back of my mind too. But I'm choosing to ignore that. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 4:53pm
| I can see him running a mighty race over the 3200 at his favourite track |
Posted By: saintly96
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 4:57pm
| Very good win, exvellent racehorse. Will be competitive in anything from here on end. Great price today too. |
Posted By: saintly96
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 4:58pm
| Excellent....bloody fat fingers on the phone. |
Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 5:44am
| We started following him here in NZ when he won his first race, but, he was a worry as he was on one rein all the time, and the gear he carried was mind boggling, Weir is to commended for what he's done, but this fellow is a very serious horse and I would love to see him go to Royal Ascot! |
Posted By: AdaHunta
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 5:41pm
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Im not knocking the horse was a good win on Saturday .........but it had that race run to suit and sprinted clear only over a mile .... Im blown away hes now the Caulfield Cup fav .....never won over 2000m he has to be suspect at a strong 2400m .......
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 5:50pm
| Er, he won the Gp 1 Australian Cup over 2000m before running 2nd in the Gp 1 BMW over 2400m. |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 5:55pm
Assuming you mean beyond 2000m. I think the main thing about him is his manners actually do seem to be improving. We see a lot of talented horse that we think will come good when they learn what it's all about but full credit to Weir, he looks to have got him on the right track. Wanted to lay in a touch again but nothing like early doors.
And yes he had things to suit yesterday but he came some top class gallopers serious windburn. You might be right about 2400 (he was no match for Jameka in the BMW, but that was on a swamp), but I think he's a deserved favourite. Though I do think Flemington is clearly his track. |
Posted By: AdaHunta
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 8:55pm
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Yeah I mean over 2000m (beyond ) glad u know what I'm talking about Judge Like I said I'm not knocking the horse or trainer Weir is doing a great job getting the horse right has sweated up badly prior to races and is green when it matters most ......just both his 2400m runs give me no confidence the horse can sprint hard at the end of a staying trip hes never hit the line well To firm as a Favourite for a Caulfield Cup based on a 1600m run ..........is riskaaaaaaay business I think If I owned him id go Cox Plate you know he can sprint hard at the end of a 2000m race But I'm only a hack what would I know
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Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 9:10pm
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I couldn't go Cox Plate over Caulfield Cup with a stayer like him and a champion like Winx heading to the Cox Plate. Gets his last chance to win a Caulfield Cup before he's probably past it and weighted out of it. Looks to be in for a career peak and anything is possible - 2400m doesn't look a huge concern to me, but then we're all guessing to that extent. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: AdaHunta
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 9:16pm
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How is he a Stayer ?? Hes never won a Staying race
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Posted By: AdaHunta
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 9:30pm
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That run on Saturday had Cox Plate written all over it good pace and lethal sprint last 400m if hes in that sort of form .......id be leaning more towards the plate ....but judge is right Flemington looks his go the Valley track could be to tight Personally I want the Cox Plate full of the best horses I think Humidor is a worthy 2000m opponent to Winx ...the field is starting to look thin to me
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Posted By: mikey
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 11:03am
| Caulfield Cup, Cox Plate back up - straight into the Melbourne Cup! The first horse to win all 3 since Rising Fast ;-) |