Hey Doc
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Topic: Hey Doc
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Subject: Hey Doc
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 10:34pm
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deserves a thread now, such a good honest horse He's still in the guineas next week, wonder if they'll back him up? ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 10:42pm
| Mad if they don't. |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 10:50pm
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Looks a Derby horse ------------- The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on.... |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 10:56pm
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as the taco girl says, why not have both? ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2016 at 4:56pm
| Where to now for this boy? |
Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 9:44am
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The horse looks a weighted special this Saturday... what price would Impending / Divine Prophet be in this field? Think he is being underated here with a lot of hype behind the Sydney horses... took $5.5! |
Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 9:44am
Race 1 - 11:45AM The Carbine Club Stakes (1600 METRES)
Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
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Posted By: The Gooch
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 10:03am
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Have to agree SYT. He's very underrated. Even in the Stutt stakes I couldn't believe he started around the $6-$7 mark and won with ease. Looks an each way bet to nothing when $2 the place is offered. |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 10:25am
I tend to agree SYT but the query I have is the barrier. All his best races he has settled midfieldish but from that barrier I can see him being snagged and having to make up a bit of ground in the straight. I haven't done a speed map yet but if had had drawn better I would be all over him like a fat kid on a cup cake.
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SYT wrote:Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 10:59am
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Very keen on the horse. He's my best bet for the day. Personally I don't mind the barrier because it means he will have clear running. I agree he's been underrated this entire preparation. Don't quite know why. He has a very good trainer. Maybe the unfashionable jockey?
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:06am
I like him and there doesn't appear to be a lot of speed in the race so you would assume he will go forward. Hope I am right because the 1600m start at Flemington is not a place you want to be posted wide.
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Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:27am
| Yeah, you don't want to get posted 3 wide into the breeze at Flemington. But there are only 12 runners and the can go forward or back. Always need luck in running whether drawn the outside or the inside. |
Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:28am
| Unless one of these Sydney horses really steps up, I think he can sit 3 wide and still win. |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:30am
| 11 runners now. The 12 is scratched. |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:33am
| Acatour and Mortons Fork will be behind him in the run and I think he should have them covered. Bezel is the one that interests me as he has the profile of a horse that could improve but I don't bet on potential. |
Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:37am
That was a very good scratching. No deductions and brings him in to 11.
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:37am
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Yeah, barrier not ideal... I jumped in to the all-in price at $5 for a few doubles, but will be going again if the market keeps pushing these Sydney horses. I give Bezel a good chance, just on where he's likely to be in the run, but the price for Comin' Through is ridiculous.
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Posted By: Aurelius
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:38am
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Backed him his last two starts. Welcome into the Bandwagon, I will give you an accurate assessment of his chances this week later in the day. 
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Posted By: Aurelius
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:39am
| Onto |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:40am
Comin' Through not hopeless but I question why Walker would be riding it and not Bowman.
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Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:44am
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Looks well in - Hey Doc. Anyone done a speed map? I took the $41 Mt Panorama & he just about wins it last start (along with a few other unlucky ones). Have a look at his run.
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Posted By: Aurelius
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:49am
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Speed Map; They will run around 1.37.0 if there is no breeze to contend with and a good track. Don't worry about what happens in between time. Not a fast run race, hope they all haven't trained off. |
Posted By: Kingy
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:55am
| Taken the $5.50 this morning, looks a very good bet if he hasn't bottomed out. |
Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 12:05pm
Where did you get $5.50 this morning?
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 12:36pm
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Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 12:55pm
| Been on Doc his last 3 but geez Violate was good last time |
Posted By: Winning Run
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 1:01pm
I may be wrong but I don't think Bowman was offered the ride. I think Walker was always the choice down there due to his relationship with the owners via Criterion. |
Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 1:04pm
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Different class ... stick with the Doc! His only "failure" has been his 3rd in what looks like being a strong renewal of the Caulfied Guineas. What price would either of the quinella be in this? Grab the overs!  Certainly a nice race, and some up and comers in Bezel, Mortons Fork, Comin Through and Violate all in the exotics ... Hey Doc is the "banker" though. ------------- In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT! |
Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 2:55pm
| With all the love for the Doc expect him to continue to firm. So far $5.50 to $4.60. |
Posted By: Aurelius
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 8:56pm
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Have backed The Doc at his last two starts; A Win at the Valley and last start where he could of won a group one with a better run in transit. A very tough horse which you need to be a Flemington. I ain't deserting you now Doc, please bring me the chocolate's again. |
Posted By: Aurelius
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 9:46pm
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Sorry Doc made a spelling mistake and am going to have to cash you out. Morton's Fork should romp in if he handles Flemington. |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 10:00pm
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With due respect, reckon Morton's Forked. Have Hey Doc on top with Bez the danger.
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Posted By: Aurelius
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 10:41pm
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No doubt the Doc is flying unfortunetly it is time to get off not on as he is a victim of his own success and is carrying 58kg. MF is bursting at the seams carrying 56. |
Posted By: Aurelius
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 10:43pm
| Time to get off the Hey Doc bus. |
Posted By: MorphettvilleMauler
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2016 at 12:23pm
you were not deserting Doc, but then you are getting off the Doc bus? in 2 hours what changed your mind? |
Posted By: Aurelius
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2016 at 5:12pm
| James produced his speed map! |
Posted By: JoanFerguson
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 3:30pm
| Guineas looks his |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 3:50pm
| By Duporth, the second one by that stallion lately one for Gai very impressive too fwiw. |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 3:54pm
Think all of 2nd, 3rd and 4th can turn the tables off today with luck in running. ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: JoanFerguson
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 3:55pm
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If Hey Doc draws well he wins Well I'm on him so I hope he does |
Posted By: marscay
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 4:00pm
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The 1600m gives some others the chance to catch up to him, he's a ripper 1400m horse imo. |
Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 9:05pm
| Ducked in again when clear in front , still a little immature will race on no doubt(gelding ) as a 4 and 5yo . Duporths seem quite sound , 1400 seems his go a race like the Straddie might be a nice race for him next year , serious horse when fully mature . |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 9:08pm
| Superb horse, honest as anything and a gun ride from Luke Currie, but a g1 Guineas is a totally different ball game. Hopefully for Tony's sake, this horse is the banner horse for his stable that Alpine Eagle pretended to be. |
Posted By: Sir Gov
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 9:11pm
Thought the same thing. 1600m may just take the edge off him
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Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 9:20pm
| McEvoy also had a Duporth win on debut this week in SA , cant think of it's name but was nommed for the big Autumn races , is a must follow in SA , I'm just happy to have my mare in foal to him as I feel he is very underrated and still can pull good money at the sales on type . Not sure why his Half to Extreme Choice isn't named yet , might be a handy one debut in the coming weeks in Melb also . |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 9:31pm
| Nice Duporth won during the week ( Canterbury) fwiw goldy very impressive. |
Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 9:39pm
| Table of Wisdom ? |
Posted By: The Gooch
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 9:57pm
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I think the 1600m might be the top of his range but let's not forget he loomed to win the Caulfield Guineas after covering ground. Beaten less than a length into 3rd. Gets the same run as Divine Prophet and he's the winner... In the Carbine Club he was ridden upside down. Firmly the one to beat but Land of Plenty looks the big danger after being 3 wide today and he will certainly be suited by the 1600m. |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 11:33pm
Miss ELLY May, by Duporth horlicks, ,12 th feb. Wyong, if you can watch replay . |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 7:34pm
| The one good 3yo for the Spring who looks likes he's actually come on. |
Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 8:40pm
| Can't see him getting beaten in Australian Guineas. Current $5.00 is huge overs. |
Posted By: slowdown
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 8:44pm
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good to see Luke getting opportunities too ------------- Rebel - racing. Lionel - in work. Glory - spelling. Ray - spelling. A Wee Nip - in work. |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 8:46pm
| He's still strangely underrated. Gave them weight and beat them easily. Level weights next time in, didn't look like 1600 would be a problem. |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 9:57pm
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I can't see him winning Aus Guineas and I love the horse ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: VPI
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2017 at 1:31am
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Certainly if there is not massive improvements from his competitors he will be winning. I hear D Beadman has been heading south. ------------- @value_punter |
Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2017 at 7:19am
| What can beat him in Guineas? Meets those he beat on Sat 2.5kgs better. Unlikely there will be many,if any, Sydney horses coming down with weaker Randwick Guineas on same day. |
Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2017 at 8:59am
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Hey Doc and Land of Plenty are the ones I want to be on with the race only 2 weeks away. Managed to get set at $6 on Hey Doc this morning and took $51 for Land of Plenty before his last run. |
Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 6:30pm
Good Oh duly salutes at Sandown on wednesday , is a follow horse also imho. Barrier 2 in the Guineas lolks ideal. |
Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 4:34pm
You called it  ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 6:03pm
 ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2017 at 6:19pm
| Really deserved that, this bloke. Just a proper racehorse. May have been advantaged by the draw but don't think he enjoyed racing down there on the rails- pulled quite badly. Plenty of merit in the win and peach of a ride. Thank you L Currie. |
Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 9:02pm
| Has the Doncaster at his mercy if they decide to go that way . |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 9:09pm
| Was on him yesterday but that was his grand final. Would be a wonderful training effort to get him to peak again. |
Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 9:12pm
| Trainer was eyeing the donny yesterday . |
Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 10:29pm
| I would've thought the Straddy would be more his go. Not saying he can't run a mile, just noting that he's real good at 1400. |
Posted By: The Gooch
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 10:48pm
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I was on at $5.50 yesterday and really like the horse but no way I would have him in a Donny. Agree with James that the Aus Guineas was his race and he did have every conceivable thing in his favour yesterday I feel. I think a tough Randwick Mile against the older horses will sort him out, plus he's never raced in Sydney. Think 1400m is his best trip. Maybe keep him reasonably fresh and target the All Aged if it doesn't look that strong?
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 11:46pm
| May have a bit of trouble handling Le Romain for starters over a mile , still you have a handicapper to balance things out.fwiw. |
Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 7:13am
| Not tipping him to win the Doncaster. It's a hard race to win with lots of chances. But I don't see why he can't win it. I also can't see why he can't run 2000m. If he starts in the Alister Clark Stakes we will find out. If he wins that then he's a big Doncaster chance. I'm on at $61. |
Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 7:16am
| But I also agree the AG was his target race and has a challenge to maintain his form to the Donnie. He did peak at his 4th run last prep and raced poorly at his 5th. |
Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 7:56am
| If he was mine, I'd put him away and bring him back for those early Group 1's at 14 and 16 |
Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 7:58am
| Memsie and Makybe Diva |
Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 8:29am
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All over him in the Guineas but leave me out of the Doncaster at current price. |
Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 9:26am
| His current nominations are for the Newmarket , highly unlikely, and the Doncaster , possibility . |
Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 9:29am
| Looks a stronger horse this time in , I'd have a throw at the Donny , normally a strongly run race which will suit, as he still didn't settle for the initial 500 metres of the Guineas |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:18pm
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Trainer Tony McEvoy has confirmed Australian Guineas winner Hey Doc will get a crack at Doncaster Mile. Has 51kgs at the moment. https://twitter.com/AndrewBensley" rel="nofollow - - @AndrewBensley ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 2:54pm
| Trainer Tony McEvoy says they won't run Hey Doc again before the Doncaster Mile. If he doesn't make it then 3YO will be off to paddock. |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2017 at 5:57pm
| Machine |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2017 at 8:40pm
| Said it before on this thread- just a proper racehorse this bloke. |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2017 at 10:37pm
| Great training effort |
Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2017 at 10:50pm
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I would agree Khan, but he has probably been a sprinter all along. ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2017 at 10:55pm
| Keeps the race |
Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2017 at 12:03am
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Very ordinary race really. They didn't go like lightening early and 5 of the 8 races ran much faster final 600's. Overall time not very impressive either. . Mystery? Throw the form guides out the window. |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2017 at 12:46am
There are form guides for sprint races? 
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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2017 at 1:48am
I wish the Doc had stayed home stayer.  The fav lost a couple of lengths when the winner checked him. Williams then had to use him up. He's already peaked. They are only allowed one mistake in a race. |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2017 at 8:26am
Time was a second quicker than the other 1200m race of the night and 0.66sec outside Miss Andretti's track record. He won tonight against his preferred pattern from a wide draw. I didn't back him, but continues to be underrated this horse, now 8 from 18. They've discovered he's a sprinter and he's won up the straight. In the Darley up to his eyeballs imo.
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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2017 at 12:34pm
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I wuz wrong Judge .. ( Don't pee before the water comes ) Yes , The Doc went out in 34-42 = Home in = 35.48. VM had a tough task after being severely checked. I was rebelling, after seeing my wager on IHT get nutted. ( Lesson ) = Do nothing from memory when you over 21 |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2017 at 3:05pm
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Not running Saturday Received a nasty injury after being kicked by another horse this morning |
Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2018 at 2:44pm
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Heading to the Carlyon first up. Possibly going to take on Nature Strip ------------- This space has been intentionally left blank |
Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 3:26pm
| Huge return |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 3:37pm
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Blew out last 50 , good prep coming up ------------- The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on.... |
Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 4:08pm
| Just heard McEvoy say he is on the plane to WA of everything is 100% tomorrow |
Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 7:54pm
| Great run to win the Winterbottom just now, though in front they couldn't run him down. |
Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 8:55pm
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Yeah baby! My biggest collect for the year:) |
Posted By: Mr Grieves
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 10:17pm
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farcical race |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2021 at 5:53pm
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Star sprinter Hey Doc has run his race, with connections announcing his retirement on Friday. Co-trainer Calvin McEvoy said the gelding's owners voted unanimously this week to call time on the Group 1 hero's racing career, which netted more than $3 million in prizemoney. The son of Duporth won 10 races during a brilliant 32-start tenure and competed in G1 company from his first season as a two-year-old to his last season as a seven-year-old. He announced himself as a star with victory in the G1 Australian Guineas (1600m) as a three-year-old before developing into one of the country's premier sprinters as an older horse, winning the G1 Manikato Stakes (1200m) twice (2017 and 2020), as well as the G1 Winterbottom Stakes (1200m) in Perth in 2019. McEvoy said Hey Doc had endeared himself to the staff at both Angaston and Ballarat and his absence would leave a void in the stable. "He's been a real flagbearer for our stable, an incredible horse," McEvoy said. "When he won the Australian Guineas in 2017, that was Dad's first Group 1 win after he branched out from Lindsay Park. "And for the horse to also be my first Group 1 winner after we went into partnership, he was incredible for us. "If you look at his record, he was there in the Blue Diamond as a two-year-old then to be third in a Caulfield Guineas and winning the Australian Guineas, and then come back as an older horse to establish himself as one of the country's best sprinters, he was just an amazing horse. "He wasn't always a straightforward horse - he had surgery and a couple of really long breaks, but he continued to come back and compete. "There was no injury or anything like that, he didn't have anything left to prove on the track." The stable confirmed that Hey Doc will retire to Victoria's Three Bridges Thoroughbred Farm in Eddington, where Pauline Liston will oversee his transition into a riding horse. ------------- Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing |
Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2021 at 6:04pm
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Happy retirement Doc. Never really given the credit he deserved I feel, including by me. ------------- Time is a flat circle |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2021 at 6:05pm
| Never got over that valley run imo. |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2021 at 8:34pm
Apologies , I had this horse mixed up with another from the stable ( I think ) this horse was ridden by Yendall and Oliver gave him a good old fashion knock down , might have been Cox plate , also may have been by Domesday and the Dunn family in the ownership. I'm stumped.
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2021 at 8:36pm
Royal Symphony?
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2021 at 8:44pm
| Sounds good to me mate , cheers. |