Harness Racing Arrests Victoria
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Topic: Harness Racing Arrests Victoria
Posted By: Passing Through
Subject: Harness Racing Arrests Victoria
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 8:19am
Race-fixing arrests at biggest meet of year rock Harness Racing VictoriaMark Buttler, Herald Sun DETECTIVES arrested leading harness racing figures last night over race-fixing allegations following the sport’s biggest meet of the year. Sports corruption police detained a number of industry figures at the big Breeders Crown meeting held at the Melton track and elsewhere. Top trainer-driver Nathan Jack was among those arrested alongside his girlfriend and fellow leading driver and trainer, Amanda Turnbull. Jack trains out of Shepparton and Mengangle in NSW with Turnbull, with both seen as champions of the industry. The investigation has centred on a race at Cobram on June 22 last year, won by a horse called Airborne Magic, trained by David Bartley. more..... http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/racefixing-arrests-at-biggest-meet-of-year-rock-harness-racing-victoria/news-story/a8e52fdbf21e9f742dfb4959040e300b" rel="nofollow - http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/racefixing-arrests-at-biggest-meet-of-year-rock-harness-racing-victoria/news-story/a8e52fdbf21e9f742dfb4959040e300b |
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Posted By: Heavy10
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 8:32am
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I've seen some very very suss races when half the field is made up of Turnbulls so no surprise. |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 8:48am
| Red - Hots by name..... |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 11:32am
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Just as well its in Vic or Mr Baird would have a field day. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: mowie
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 12:30pm
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so who dobbed them in? for a lazy what 10 grand for the jacks? ------------- chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay |
Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 1:06pm
says the bloke who's always prancing around here spouting trainers are on drugs this and that...now you want to play the protect the dodgy trainers and crucify the grasses..?? weirdo/.. ------------- Panspermia. |
mowie wrote:Posted By: mowie
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 5:27pm
hahaha mr no life or is that no clue I care so much what you think  for the record I ain't protecting the guy,he has form just find it odd this time they got caught, scary thought if they dig deeper into it really as the trainer of the winner has two fathers racing  ------------- chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 5:43pm
I thought this investigation had been going on for many months  Might be the Mildura guy I'm thinking of.------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 6:43pm
| Ha! Without wanting to state the bleeding obvious, I knew it was dodgy. One of the reasons I stopped punting on the horses. |
Posted By: Kong
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 6:57pm
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when you consider the prizemoney trots race for its no surprise.
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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 7:04pm
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 7:14pm
This last one strikes me as rather funny  Today's Birthdays
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Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 7:28pm
Have you seen the prizemoney they race for in Sweden and Finland..?? they race for millions here comparatively.. they earn plenty of prizemoney don't worry about that.. ------------- Panspermia. |
Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2016 at 7:32am
| DO A BAIRD +BAN IT |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2016 at 10:08am
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Well, 1x1, Macca can see the link between Baird and my comment, so maybe you are off your game today. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2016 at 4:28pm
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Watched the replay , Jack set up a savage tempo , quickest mile rate of the night . Winner fell in by a lip so someone didn't tell B Gath on the second horse as he got way too close for comfort I'd say . Odds on favorite always way off them never looked likely .. ------------- The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on.... |
Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2016 at 7:30pm
| Where was the winner sitting? In behind the leader? |
Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2016 at 8:38pm
news roomUpdate - HRV Media Statement re HRV/Police Investigation05 September 2016  With respect to the actions taken by Victoria Police at the Melton harness racing meeting on 28 August 2016 involving harness racing participants, and the submissions now received from the relevant parties regarding whether the HRV Stewards take any action against the licences of the relevant participants under the Australian Harness Racing Rules (AHRR), HRV Stewards advise that they will now give due consideration to such matters. Any decision of the HRV Stewards in this regard is not expected to be made and announced prior to Thursday 8 September 2016. ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |
Posted By: RED HUNTER
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2016 at 5:46pm
It's what the NOVELTIES pay (tri,first four,quaddies) (a)TAB and (b)SPORTS BOOKIES have to pay....without the odds on. Over-do it and what's bet, how it's bet and where it's bet, that can cause ALARM BELLS. .....and who collects (vision would exist) and when/where collected and how much collected at any one spot. Total it up and you find the culprits
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Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2016 at 2:26pm
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In accordance with the provisions of AHRR 183, the HRV Stewards have directed the suspension of the licences of the four relevant participants, with immediate effect, for no longer than 3 months (should circumstances remain the same) while the investigation continues. Pursuant to AHRR 15(d), the relevant participants have also been excluded from attending racecourses in Victoria for no longer than 3 months (should circumstances remain the same) while the investigation continues. The participants have been advised of their rights of appeal against this decision of the HRV Stewards. Any such appeal must be lodged with the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary (RAD) Board by 5.00pm on Monday 12 September 2016. With respect to the further investigation by Victoria Police, HRV is unable to make any further comment at this time. ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |
Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2016 at 6:34pm
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Posted By: Farmermick
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2016 at 10:31pm
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yes the investigation has been underway for sometime and there are other races in question too. I have 3 horses in the sport and the only reason is that I was once involved in the game and I worked with leading trainers and believe me when I say what went on was incredible but it happens in both codes lets be realists about it the integrity commission for both sports are a bit slow on the uptake shall we say. ------------- Ethical Farming Boutique Horse Stud Medicinal Plant Research |
Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2016 at 8:52pm
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With respect to the actions taken by Victoria Police at the Melton harness racing meeting on 28 August 2016 involving four harness racing participants, Harness Racing Victoria (HRV) provides the following update: On 9 September, 2016 HRV Stewards suspended the licences (for no longer than 3 months) of the four participants in accordance with the provisions of Rule 183 of the Australian Harness Racing Rules (AHRR) whilst the police investigations continue. The HRV Stewards also excluded the participants from attending harness racing tracks in accordance with the provisions of AHRR 15 (d). The HRV RAD Board today heard the appeals of all four licensed persons and ordered that the restrictions be lifted, enabling the participants to conduct licensed activities and attend race meetings. In making this decision, the HRV RAD Board Chairman noted the obligations of the Stewards to consider the integrity of the industry and made no criticism of the decision which had been taken to impose the restrictions in the circumstances, indicating he would have been surprised had such not occurred. However, the RAD Board Chairman noted the RAD Board’s obligation with respect to the presumption of innocence of the parties and determined on the current information before the RAD Board, there was insufficient material to support the continuation of the suspensions and exclusions HRV Stewards will monitor the ongoing Victoria Police investigation and if any circumstances change in the future, HRV Stewards will reconsider whether any necessary protective measures need to be taken. With respect to the further investigation by Victoria Police, HRV is unable to make any further comment at this time. Mark Pitt and Lisa Bartley other 2 in question ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |
Posted By: Ecair Issoire
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2016 at 9:03pm
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Pmd what does that symbol / picture mean? Just curious |
Posted By: RED HUNTER
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2016 at 9:14pm
| "on shakey ground" |
Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 3:11pm
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With respect to the actions taken by Victoria Police on 11 January, 2017 involving the service of charges on four harness racing participants, Harness Racing Victoria (HRV) provides the following update: In accordance with Australian Harness Racing Rule (AHRR) 183, the HRV Stewards have today suspended the licences of Mr Nathan Jack, Ms Lisa Bartley, Mr Mark Pitt and Ms Amanda Turnbull with immediate effect. HRV ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |
Posted By: mowie
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 10:06am
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can't see it being for long such big names in harness racing they will get 3 months or something bans. wonder if they can buy at the sales next week or do pre training ? knowing lisa I'm abit stunned she got caught up in it but Nathan is a toxic unit who I hope get's the boot soon ------------- chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay |
Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 2:01pm
4 grubs of the sport, now Turnbull trained horses are with Russell Jack=Nathan's Father, also McCarthy's have another fall guy=Craig Cross, just gets better doesn't it ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |
Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2017 at 2:27pm
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With respect to the criminal investigation conducted by Victoria Police, which resulted on 11 January, 2017 in criminal charges being served on harness racing participants Nathan Jack, Amanda Turnbull, Mark Pitt and Lisa Bartley, Harness Racing Victoria (HRV) provides the following update: These criminal charges have been adjourned to Shepparton Magistrates Court for a further mention hearing on 19 October, 2017. This matter has also been booked in for a contested hearing commencing 27 November, 2017. HRV is unable to make any further comment in relation to the Victoria Police investigation. Harness Racing Victoria 11th April 2017 ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |
Posted By: mowie
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2017 at 6:28pm
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made me sick seeing bartley train a winner with blake jones in the sulky, side not the date in court is coming up any chance they get a ban? ------------- chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay |
Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2017 at 8:35pm
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This is what they should get. Participants in Queensland's three racing codes have been put on notice they face severe bans if they engage in match-fixing. Queensland Racing Integrity Commission boss Ross Barnett said harness driver Barton Cockburn, who pleaded guilty to match-fixing charges in the Magistrates Court last week, had been warned off for life. The ban means Cockburn can't attend any racetrack in the world. "Cockburn's warning off applies to all three codes of racing, thoroughbreds, harness and greyhounds," Barnett said. "The prosecution of Cockburn should sound a clear warning to anyone wanting to undermine the integrity of racing in Queensland that there will be serious consequences." Cockburn was one of three people charged with match-fixing offences in April this year after the Racing Crime Squad investigated match fixing allegations in the harness racing industry. ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |
Posted By: mowie
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2017 at 6:50am
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problem is if they ban the group of them what is stopping there uncle from taking over or running back to daddy turnbull, or even mark pitts wife running them, can see why they did what they did they have complete control. worst case they go back to pre training them .. ------------- chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2017 at 5:22pm
Oh dear  https://www.facebook.com/Harnessbred/?hc_ref=ARS3yA5wIk61HexdT9qzmrrofHQSVBl4HgKoOohMABrsu7DOZ3jYH52p2Qvy5WlzDw0&fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Harnessbred https://www.facebook.com/Harnessbred/photos/a.1501133356828332.1073741828.1497126437229024/1870049219936742/?type=3" rel="nofollow - - - 10 hrs · https://www.facebook.com/#" rel="nofollow">  Sadly reports are coming in that the Victorian Police force are about to announce race fixing allegations against four well known participants. This will be another very sad day for the sport if these reports are correct. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2017 at 5:45pm
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Certainly hope Mowie isn't involved in these Police matters. But thankfully for him don't think bad tipping constitutes a criminal offence.
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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2017 at 5:49pm
| Ouch ! |
Posted By: mowie
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2017 at 7:24am
 ------------- chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay |
Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 10:33am
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Jack, Turnbull, Pitt, and Bartley have their day in court on the 27th November, could get 10 years jail. ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |
Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 10:43am
| I think a case in Qld of race fixing resulted in just a $5000 fine, and a life ban. The law provides for long jail sentences. The life ban from race-courses is more a benefit than a punishment. |
Posted By: mowie
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 4:32pm
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spot on max as I said in a earlier post pitt an his gf run a breaking in company so they really don't need to go near a track an Amanda well can work for the family an rack it in still.. after what crump got life ban or was it 10 year ban? harness vic need to make a stand even if it is only a 5000 grand fine buttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt. jack turnbull are strong names an harness vic are gutless ------------- chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay |
Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2017 at 12:10pm
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15th Dec: A contested hearing into criminal charges issued against licensed persons Nathan Jack, Amanda Turnbull, Mark Pitt and Lisa Bartley has been held in the Shepparton Magistrates Court over the past three weeks. The case against Amanda Turnbull was dismissed during proceedings. The magistrate has directed that written submissions be provided by all parties before he delivers his decision. The court has indicated that no decision would be made prior to April 2018. HRV is unable to make any further comment in relation to the matter. 18th Dec THE Australian Racing Forensic Laboratory (ARFL) has advised Harness Racing New South Wales (HRNSW) that triamcinolone acetonide has been detected in the blood sample taken from TAIHAPE SUNSET NZ following its win in Race 3, the BAKERS EARTHMOVING WINDMILL HEAT 3 (1720m) at Dubbo on Wednesday November 15, 2017. The “B” sample has been sent to Racing Analytical Services Limited (RASL) in Victoria for confirmation. Trainer Ms Amanda Turnbull has been advised that HRNSW will continue its investigation into this sample irregularity and an inquiry will be conducted in due course. Acting under the provisions of Rule 183A, it has been determined that TAIHAPE SUNSET NZ, the horse subject of the certificate, shall not be nominated or compete in any race until the outcome of an inquiry or investigation. This is effective immediately. ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2017 at 12:39pm
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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 6:21am
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anti inflammatory drugs were legal in the USA. "Half" our population are taking non steroidal anti inflammatory medication, usually badly monitored and rife with serious side effects.. Doctors are a health & wealth hazard. |
Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 1:46pm
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Looks like the New Zealanders are in a bit of trouble, as well. ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2018 at 12:51pm
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10 Stables Raided Yesterday And 4 More Today In NZ: Charged So Far Blair Orange (race fixing) Natalie Rasmussen (supply of Class B) Andrew Stuart (race fixing) Nigel McGrath (race fixing) John Dunn (race fixing) Brent Wall (race fixing) Matt Anderson (race fixing, possession and supply of Class B) ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |
Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2018 at 12:39pm
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Victorian harness racing licenced participants Nathan Jack, Mark Pitt and Lisa Bartley were found guilty of charges under Section 195C of the Crimes Act (1958), which relates to engaging in conduct that corrupts or would corrupt the betting outcome of an event or event contingency. Mr Jack was found guilty of charges relating to Race 4 at Cobram on 22 June, 2015, and the training arrangements of Airbournemagic leading up to the event. Mr Pitt was found guilty of a charge relating to the aforementioned race. Ms Bartley was found guilty of charges relating to the training arrangements of Airbournemagic. Mr Jack and Mr Pitt were convicted and fined $20,000 and $15,000 respectively. Ms Bartley was fined $5,000 without a conviction being recorded. In light of the parties being found guilty Mr Jack, Mr Pitt and Ms Bartley have had all harness racing licences suspended. Horses owned by them are prevented from racing or trialling and all three have been excluded from attending any Victorian racecourse. These restrictions were imposed immediately pending submissions being provided as to why these embargoes should not remain in place until the completion of a HRV investigation. A final decision with respect to these embargoes is expected to be announced by the HRV Integrity Department by 5pm on 19 September 2018. As today’s decision of the Magistrates’ Court of Victoria is subject to an appeal period, and all parties being required to appear before HRV for further proceedings, HRV will not make any further comment at this time. ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |
Posted By: horseshoe
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 3:18pm
Pitt, Jack And Bartley gone as from 23rd November  ------------- Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know |