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Topic: Fires - Victoria
Posted By: Gay3
Subject: Fires - Victoria
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 2:01pm
Probably not a bad idea to have a thread for latest fires info plus it's a bit slow on the forum today excluding 'important' PMs  http://warnings.cfa.vic.gov.au/" rel="nofollow - http://warnings.cfa.vic.gov.au/ This is an Emergency Warning issued by Department of Environment and Primary Industries for Moyston.
This fire may impact within the next half hour. You are in danger, act now to protect yourself.
It is too late to leave. The safest option is to take shelter indoors immediately. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
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Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 4:31pm
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perhaps if so much land wasn't cleared of trees for farming there wouldn't be such torrid drought conditions in these areas..
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 4:53pm
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The only thing wrong with that statement is most fires in Vic start in the bush. Many of the grassland ones are the result of faulty electricity wires which are often close to roads,also cigarrette butts. I think we need to accept they're a fact of Oz life wherever you live as they've been occurring since the continent evolved, according to Dreamtime stories.
------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Mr White
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 5:09pm
| There are a few big fires right now up around Moyston |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 5:09pm
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Fuel is required for fire to feed. No fuel no fire.The more rain we receive the greater amount of fuel growth, so when conditions dry out we're presented with a potential powderkeg situation. A trifle simplistic but essentially correct.
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Posted By: Mr White
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 5:11pm
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Extreme heat forecast raises fire fears statewide Sophie Aubrey, Alex White and Annika Smethurst Herald Sun January 02, 2015 4:42PM A fire is burning out of control near Moyston. Picture: Will Pristel @wpristel7, Channel 7 UPDATE: PROPERTIES southeast of Moyston are now under threat by a fast-moving, out-of-control grassfire. An updated Emergency Warning has been issued for Moyston, Rocky Point and Willaura North, with a 1750ha grassfire travelling in a south-easterly direction past the township of Moyston and towards Burrumbeep Rd and Andrews Lane. The alert warns that properties south-east of Moyston, at Maroona, may be impacted in the next-half hour. Firefighters have bolstered their efforts to battle the Moyston blaze, with 61 trucks and 9 aircraft now responding. Ambulance Victoria spokesman John Mullen a man, in his 50s, suffering from smoke inhalation was being treated by paramedics at the Moyston Primary School staging area. The fire is travelling in a south-easterly direction, fanned by strong northerly winds, past Moyston located 15km west of Ararat in the high-risk Grampians region. Residents have been told it’s too late to leave and to take shelter indoors with some receiving emergency text messages. A separate Watch and Act warning has been issued for residents of Gre Gre and St Arnaud, with a small grassfire burning from Swanwater in a south-easterly direction at the intersection of the Sunraysia Highway. The fire is not yet under control. Road closures are being put in place and include: Ararat and Halls Gap Rd near the Rhymney intersection, Ararat and Halls Gap Rd at Pomonal, Moyston Willaura Rd, Moyston Great Western Rd and Moyston Dunkeld Rd. Ararat Relief Centre is located at the Ararat Town Hall at the corner of Barkly and Vincent Sts. A State Control Centre spokeswoman said the large fire was first reported at 11.50am and quickly spread. It has grown from 100ha when first reported to 1750ha in less than three hours. Road closures are being put in place and include: Ararat and Halls Gap Road near the Rhymney intersection, Moyston Willaura Road, Moyston Great Western Road and Moyston Dunkeld Road. The CFA have also issued a Watch and Act alert for residents in Rocky Point, Cathcart, Denicull Creek, Maroona and Langi Logan, urging them to flee now as conditions may worsen. The fire is predicted to move east towards these areas after the forecast wind change later this evening. “Don’t wait, leaving now is the safest option,” the alert reads. BE FIRE READY SEVEN-DAY FORECAST The CFA has more than 50 water aircraft on standby and hundreds of fighters at the ready with temperatures of 39C expected today and 43C tomorrow across the state. Extreme alerts will be issued in the state’s southwest from today, with the heat creeping towards 40C in Hamilton and Colac. The warnings will be extended to the north central district tomorrow, including Mildura, Swan Hill and Horsham which can expect highs of 43C and winds up to 40km/h. Emergency Management Commissioner Craig Lapsley said today that warnings could be sent to Victorians in the early hours of Saturday morning as firefighters expect hot overnight temperatures to create extreme fire danger conditions. He warned that Victoria would wake up tomorrow with extreme fire danger ratings in five weather districts, but said firefighters were on top of the situation so far. He said potentially dangerous wind changes would hit the state tomorrow morning. “A lot of people think of fire in the afternoon. We’ve got the scenario now ... if we’ve got fires, they will run in the night and into tomorrow morning,” he told 3AW today. “In the southwest of the state the critical time will be tomorrow morning in the sense that it is going to be extremely dry.” Total fire bans have been declared in eight of the state’s nine districts. According to the CFA, high-risk areas include; Ararat, Warrnambool, Corangamite and the south Grampians. The approximate burned area of the Moyston fire. Picture: CFA The approximate burned area of the Moyston fire. Picture: CFA However, residents across the state are being urged to be alert with severe warnings issued for the Mallee, the Wimmera, Northern Country and the central districts. The dangerous conditions across the state come as a woman was arrested over a spate of grass fires in Victoria’s north. Arson squad detectives arrested a 49-year-old Tatura woman after emergency crews were called to a grass fire in Tatura, near Shepparton, about 3.20am today. Police are investigating a similar grass fire started about the same time on Tuesday, and there’s been at least 40 other similar fires in Tatura in the past year. Arson squad Detective Acting Senior Sergeant Eric Harbis said it was lucky no one’s been hurt or property damaged. “As we head into the higher temperatures this weekend, we are really calling on members of the community to be vigilant and keep an eye out for any suspicious activity with regards to fires,” he said. “These acts can devastate communities so if you see something, say something.” Authorities are also appealing to parents and pet owners to not leave children or animals in cars in severe heat. CFA state control centre spokeswoman Sophie Griffin said temperatures could become deadly inside a car within minutes. “Hot cars can kill,’’ she said. “Do not leave anyone in a parked car, even for a few minutes. There are no excuses and no exceptions.’’ Figures from Ambulance Victoria showed emergency crews responded to more than 20 call-outs a week for children as young as six left in unattended cars. In 2013, 39 children were affected so badly they were taken to hospital. Tests by Ambulance Victoria show outside temperatures of 29C would mean 44C inside a car within 10 minutes and 60C within 20 minutes. With temperatures expected to peak at higher than 40C in the coming days, children and animals could suffer irreparable damage within minutes. Police said parents found guilty could be imprisoned for three months under the Crimes Act. alex.white@news.com.au |
Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 6:00pm
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Moyston fire halted. Downgraded from emergency to watch and act ------------- Victor Orban 1.74 m, Michael Bloomberg 1.73 m, Emmanual Macron 1.77 m, George Soros 1.8 m |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 7:03pm
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just saw some footage on TV news. pretty awful for the locals involved. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: James Bond Esq
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 9:21pm
| Tomorrow will be bad. |
Posted By: mowie
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 9:24pm
 yes cose 100 trees would cause rain deary meeeeeeeeee!stunned more fires didn't arise with that wind ------------- chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay |
Fiddlesticks wrote:Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 8:59am
Released 10mins ago & unsurpising as the wind is horrendous  There is the risk of a fast moving, out of control grassfire travelling in a south-westerly direction from Burrumbeep Road towards Maroona. This is the southern edge of the Better Route Rd - Moyston grassfire that started yesterday. Maroona could be impacted anytime within the next 2 hours. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 10:47am
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CONDITIONS UPDATE - PLEASE SHARE: Weather conditions are dynamic, and some parts of western, south west and central Victoria will peak above extreme fire danger for 2-3 hours this morning and into the early afternoon. The area most at risk of the spike includes the corner from Warrnambool to Horsham and Bendigo to Geelong. A predicted wind change will add to the danger. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 10:58am
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Sounds really bad for Vic and S.A. today. Stay safe as you can folks. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Mr White
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 12:37pm
| Could you believe the police have arrested another fire bug at the location of the fire he started. A teenager was charged and will appear in court. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 12:39pm
Yes  which location?
------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Mr White
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 12:43pm
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Gay3 it was at Meadow Heights. Here is a cut and paste from the Melbourne Herald Sun web page Overnight, a Meadow Heights boy, 17, was arrested after allegedly lighting a grassfire in Meadow Heights. As temperatures hovered around 30C in Melbourne, emergency services were called to a grassfire in Cassinia Cres about 8.40pm. MFB spokesman David Rankine said it took fire crews about half an hour to control the blaze. The boy was arrested at the scene and Victoria Police spokeswoman Kelly Yates said he was charged with reckless conduct endangering life and reckless conduct endangering serious injury. He was also charged with recklessly causing a bushfire, and lighting a fire during a fire danger period and on a total fire ban day. The teen was bailed to appear at a children’s court. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 12:51pm
Ta, it makes sense, the bigger the populace, the higher the risk of nutters with no respect 
------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: James Bond Esq
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 12:54pm
| cant wait for the cool change. |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 11:45pm
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any updates on the fires in Vic and S A ? any rain to help ? ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2016 at 4:46pm
https://www.facebook.com/cfavic/?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - CFA (Country Fire Authority) https://www.facebook.com/cfavic/posts/10154042011754416" rel="nofollow - - - 14 mins · Watch and Act There is a medium grass and scrub fire travelling quickly in an easterly direction towards Coghills Creek Road. A south westerly wind change is expected which will cause the fire to head in a north easterly direction towards Glendaruel. People in Glendaruel are advised to leave now and head towards Clunes. People in Learmonth and Coghills Creek are advised to leave now and head towards Ballarat. Spot fires and ember attacks are starting up to 1.5 km ahead of the main fire. The wind's changed thankfully so Miners Rest & the Racecourse should be ok https://www.facebook.com/cfavic/?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - CFA (Country Fire Authority) https://www.facebook.com/cfavic/posts/10154041941289416" rel="nofollow - - - 1 hr · Emergency Warning There is a fast moving, out of control grassfire travelling in a southerly direction from Frankston Flinders Rd near Raymond St Somerville. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2016 at 5:01pm
| Haven't looked into how bad this fire is, but was just saying at work how lucky we've been with fires this summer, compared to other horror summers. The heat and wind today reminded me of how deadly those conditions can be. It seems we've had less fire bugs too thank god. Good to feel a storm coming. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2016 at 5:56pm
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My brother, RFS Capt. at Deniliquin, tells me the Vic media ran lead stories that this is the last hot spell of summer which apparently leads all the loonies to have a last fling. Vic fires = 150 today & NSW has 6, tho' I was a bit slow to mention NSW has been generally a tad wetter than Vic We look like dodging the bullet as it's now headed WNW for the next 2 days but he did say they won't be too worried about the Sthn border, rather concentrating on holding the front before reaching B'go as it's all tinder dry grassland form there up. There doesn't seem to be a copy facility or I'd put up the map (CFA). ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2016 at 7:10pm
As always, the guys 'n' gals have done a phenomenal job averting what could well have been catastrophic as both fires are now Watch & Acts & going by the map, appear to be controlled or close to 
------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2016 at 7:19pm
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2020 at 9:00pm
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Police have arrested and charged a man following reports he allegedly started a fire in East Gippsland last night.
The 36-year-old man, of no fixed address, is accused of starting a fire in Johnsonville, east of Bairnsdale. He was arrested on Punt Road, Johnsonville, at about 6.45pm. The man was charged with recklessly causing a bushfire, as well as drug related offences. He will appear at the Bairnsdale Magistrates’ Court today. A watch and act message is currently in place for Johnsonville. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: VSP.
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2020 at 9:30pm
What do you do with a no-hoper like that 
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2020 at 9:45pm
Sadly he's not on his own, 98 arrests in Qld. and New.South. now another in tassie, 
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2020 at 9:46pm
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10 years on, were the Greens to blame ? Was there back burning prior to this tragedy ? ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Flight
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 10:46am
Do you live in the city djebel? Back burning would have not stopped what is happening now. Back burning would have been the equivalent of straw burning in a bonfire. The country is dry resulting in dry winds that take the moisture out of leaves and plants. "Normal" bush fires can be contained by clearing and back burning. There is nothing normal about these fires. Also, I am constantly amused by the reference to the Greens. It's almost becoming an urban myth. Would someone please refresh my memory and advise when the Greens were in power and when they passed legislation that banned back burning? And the title of the Act. I can't seem to find it......... ------------- “The probability of a certain set of circumstances coming together in a meaningful (or tragic) way is so low that it simply cannot be considered mere coincidence. ” ― V.C. King |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 11:11am
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I say dont bother arresting these people. Just turn them around and march them at gun point right back into the fire they have lit, and shoot them if they try to get out. The world has no use for people like these. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 11:20am
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You would wonder how bushfire arsonists ever get caught. In the middle of the Woop Woop State forest. Nobody within miles. ------------- An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. Simon Cameron |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 11:21am
A shame there aren't more like the man who drove a truckload of new clothes up to the relief centres in Victoria...or the Sikh Volunteers Australia, who are donating hot meals for those displaced people...  ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 11:25am
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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 11:27am
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Do not know about in NSW, but in Victoria the Andrews government has become dependent on the Greens preferences and as a consequence ..... A.the wiped out of the mountain cattlemen, resulting in cattle no longer grazing in the highlands B.almost eliminated the logging industry felling trees for timber for building houses. The timber mills not only replanted new trees but built tracks into the forests that firefighters once used to get to the bush fires. C.the Andrews government, under pressure from the Greens, is proposing to cull brumbies in the high country. All of the above combined to and will reduce the undergrowth that is now fueling bush fires |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 11:36am
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Well, the fires are into the high country now , so they will wipe out some of those 19 thousand brumbies the greens claim are in the Kosi Park. Not sure how the Pitt Street Pollies worked that number out, as cant imagine them up their in the chinos and loafers, brumby counting. Ot maybe they get someone else to count the poo drops and multiply it by 4 ? ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 11:39am
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The good people do far outweigh the bad, thats for sure. But I dont know wht they even bother doing court and all the rest of it, with arsonists. I think some that get caught are seen, or photoed, and dobbed in. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 11:50am
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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 12:19pm
More than 10 years ago this one , so the cycle for another disaster was due . Only gets worse with lots more people populating these high risk areas. Terrible ordeal for so many . Most of us powerless to help, apart from some donations to aid the cause . We still have 3 months of Summer to face so God knows what these people have to face. |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 12:37pm
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So let me get this straight, Rightards - if your decisions are influenced by someone else, but it's your decision, you don't accept full responsibility for the decision. Is that how you conduct your own affairs. ------------- An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. Simon Cameron |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 12:45pm
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The buck stops with the Greens. The Greens - anywhere but here. ------------- An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. Simon Cameron |
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 12:59pm
Did you actually read what I wrote ? Green preferences get the ALP into government. SC, there is a difference between preferences on election day and votes in the house. |
Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 1:04pm
| I'd say I'm surprised at how quickly this turned into a left v right thread but I'm not. Spend more time focusing on the important gelati right now. |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 2:50pm
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Seems every subject on here quickly becomes a place for everyone to beat their political drum lately. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 5:48pm
thank you, PT...I gave it three goes before throwing in the towel. ------------- Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes... |
Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 6:04pm
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The same fcuk knuckles in the ALP/Greens and their biased left leaning media are calling for a "Royal Commission" because of the "Unprecedented ... Rrrrrreeeeee!!!" bushfires. Yep and when they conducted the Royal Commission after the 2009 Victorian Fires, what were the recommendations? * The Commission recognises that prescribed burning is risky, resource intensive, available only in limited time frames, and can temporarily have adverse effects on local communities (for example, reduced air quality). Nonetheless, it considers that the amount of prescribed burning occurring in Victoria is inadequate * An additional fire rating beyond "Extreme" So, which one did Daniel Andrews file in the bottom draw? Hint ... the fire danger was "CATASTROPHIC ... Rrrrrrrreeeeeee!!!"  , but the State Forests remain locked up and Green Activists who successfully stop fuel reduction burns cop a slap on the wrist ...Well done Greenie Dan!! ... I think they call that MANSLAUGHTER. When tf will you dopey Mexicans stop voting for him, and lynch this fraud?  ------------- In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT! |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 6:07pm
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Genuine, reciprocated handshakes. Unlike the lardass who followed a forced handshake by clearly turning his back on unwilling recipient who shock horror began to query the National response. No apologies for this comment, as our PM's responses to the devastation show him up for what he is: a totally brilliant communicator but essentially a straw man.
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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 6:15pm
... have a read of the 2009 Vic Bushfire "Royal Commission" ... the idiots are all calling for another one! It says that "fuel reduction is inadequate" and that they needed a "fire condition warning above 'Emergency'". ... and the HYSTERICAL Greenies got their way with "CATASTROPHIC" fire warnings, and the National Parks got locked up. but, but, but, the Greens are not in Government, are they Dan!!! ------------- In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT! |
Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 6:22pm
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Will Daniel Andrews be up on Manslaughter charges after this ... or do you think he has shaken hands with enough minority groups to make him safe in Victoriastan? Will Albo come to the rescue and have himself photoshopped into the picture, making a sandwich? ... better still, maybe he could actually make a sandwich for someone who is making a difference - like ScoMo! Forget the Fake Climate Alarm, the virtue signalling ALP/Greens are the most toxic fraud and dangerous thing ever imposed on our economy and our environment. These "UNPRECEDENTED" bushfires are all their fault. We sure did dodge a bullet in May. How good? ScoMo is VERY good! 
------------- In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT! |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 6:50pm
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Doc now clearly many lengths ahead of Bob in the "bullshyt baiting totally nonsensical post of the year" award.
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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 7:01pm
It's wide open folks!!!  You find it such a challenge to believe anything that Greta or PT didn't say, anybody could potentially win this award by posting literally anything!!  http://royalcommission.vic.gov.au/finaldocuments/summary/PF/VBRC_Summary_PF.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://royalcommission.vic.gov.au/finaldocuments/summary/PF/VBRC_Summary_PF.pdf
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Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 7:29pm
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WTF! Doc actually providing a link that’s actually on topic AND from a reputable source. Someone hack his account? |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 7:38pm
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Thanks Rusty and Doc for reminding us of the Report following the disastrous fires 10 years ago now. That's why the following article is now so timely and prescient: Andrews
has spent years preparing for this crisis. And it shows By https://www.theage.com.au/by/noel-towell-hven2" rel="nofollow - Daniel Andrews has long feared that these days would come. The Premier has been
both dreading this crisis and preparing for it for 11 years. It’s bad, very bad
and it could get worse. We’re
only halfway, at best, through this emergency and already the human toll of
these fires looks grim, with two confirmed dead at the time of writing and
grave fears held for the safety of the 28 people “unaccounted for”. But it is no Black Saturday, which killed 173 people and with serious failings later uncovered in the state’s preparation and response. Andrews,
whose ability to learn from mistakes is formidable, was a senior minister in
February 2009 and the horror of those fires has stayed with him. There’s
no doubting his determination to prevent another Black Saturday. The
Premier and his colleagues endured political misery for their efforts to reform
the fire services amid constant claims the Labor government was “destroying”
the Country Fire Authority. But the
CFA has looked anything but a destroyed organisation in recent days. The
volunteers have been magnificent, as always but their commanders have looked
well-organised, competent and calm. It has been an effective effort. So far. Andrews
certainly thinks so, feeling confident enough to declare on Friday that the
most contentious of his reforms, the merging of the CFA with the Melbourne Fire
Brigade, has clicked in this emergency. There’s another big difference this time. The “leave now”
message could not be further removed from the “stay or go” advice that proved
so disastrous in February 2009. The
simple message, delivered in tough language, looks to have worked in moving
people out of the danger zones in large numbers. It’s
too early to say how history will judge the Andrews government for its response
to this crisis. Failures of strategy and tactics often only emerge in the days
and weeks after the smoke has cleared, just like they did after Black Saturday. But
leadership matters too and in that respect Andrews is giving a lesson to his
mate Prime Minister Scott Morrison whose response at times has been hard to
look at. The Premier
was back from his holiday promptly on Monday night, as the first reports of
property loss began to emerge, being briefed at the State Control Centre, and
he fronted the media the next day. https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/bushfire-victim-slams-scott-morrison-for-walking-away-20200103-p53omq.html" rel="nofollow - Add
to shortlist There
was no hesitation from Andrews in asking Morrison for military assistance or to
get out to the fire grounds; he showed up and he kept showing up. Nobody
on Spring Street can remember a leader dragging the media to a conference at
nearly 11 o’clock at night as the Premier did on Thursday to declare the
sweeping State of Disaster powers, another post-Black Saturday innovation. Nor has
Andrews had the media criticism over his response that Morrison has copped
since the infamous Hawaii episode and if social media is any guide, people are
finding in the Premier the leadership they believe is lacking elsewhere. But
Andrews’ sure-footed effort shouldn’t come as a surprise; he’s been planning it
for years.
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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 7:41pm
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New Years Resolution rusty ... naaaah! It is quite a depressing read in fact ... the green activist bureaucrats and "advisers" were clearly more interested in getting an "amp that goes up to 11", than stopping the fire threat ... and Dan did their dirty work ... crazy stuff, and proves again - we need a Royal Commission into Royal Commissions! ------------- In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT! |
Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 7:50pm
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SC, you notice that there is NO MENTION OF PREVENTION ... just how to make sure he is filmed presiding over a "CATASTROPHE" reather than a mere "emergency" ... and that he can blame Climate Change and the indigenous communitoies have access to a fire app fiddlesticks ... Dan is guilty of willful criminal negligence in my opinion ... he locked the bush up after being told that they needed to do much more backburning ... and the people who have lost property or worse their lives have one person to blame ... and it's not Izzy.
------------- In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT! |
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2020 at 11:16pm
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SC, you have gone to ground once I pointed out to you preferences were only applicable in an election and not about voting in the Houses of Parliament, It appears you, not I, as you inferred, that knows Jack all about preferences as distinct from voting in parliament. |
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2020 at 10:51am
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2020 at 11:00am
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2020 at 11:31am
Again you talk absolute nonsense as Labor did rely on Greens preferences to form Government at the last two elections. Indeed Labor publicly distanced itself from the Greens prior to the most recent election. As it transpired the Greens polled poorly, managing only three in the Lower House. Labor would have won a clear majority in the Lower House had not a single Greens preference vote gone to Labor.
Distribution of seats[ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Victorian_Legislative_Assembly&action=edit§ion=4" rel="nofollow - edit ]
You just talk in an uninformed manner without any facts whatsoever, and that's a fact.
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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2020 at 11:41am
Greens blame Labor attacks and preference deals for disappointing Victorian election
This article is more than 1 year old
Amid huge swings to Daniel Andrews’ government, the Greens could see party room cut in half when parliament returns http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/25/greens-blame-labor-attacks-and-preference-deals-for-disappointing-victorian-election" rel="nofollow - http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/25/greens-blame-labor-attacks-and-preference-deals-for-disappointing-victorian-election ------------- |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2020 at 11:53am
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Government
rejected major air-tanker expansion By https://www.theage.com.au/by/david-crowe-h0waa9" rel="nofollow - The nation's aerial firefighting centre called four years ago for a "national large air-tanker" fleet to confront a growing bushfire threat but was turned down in a federal government ruling that the task was one for the states. The National Aerial Firefighting Centre, which oversees a fleet of 145 aircraft, warned of hotter and more extended bushfire seasons in a call on governments in May 2016 to establish the major new capability. |
Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2020 at 12:25pm
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So, how bout these fires ay? Yeah, kissin' virtue signalling, left, green, scomo, rightard, labour fires that they are
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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2020 at 12:57pm
So I talk absolute nonsense ? In the 2018 Victorian state election the following seats changed from Liberal to the ALP, however in if we had first past the post elections the Liberals would have won,however after distribution of Green preferences the ALP won..... Bass, Bayswater, Box Hill, Burwood, Hawthorn, Mt Waverley, Nepean, Ringwood and South Barwon.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2020 at 1:06pm
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Well why don't you tell us all if you don't believe that the emergency website and constant media updates aren't quite sufficient. Maybe some like myself have the Victorian emergency siteopen all day to keep abreast of the latest, including current alerts in two separate locations where relatives' homes are under serious threat. And just so sorry I find it necessary to explain to climate denier Baghdad Bob that blaming the Greens, who I have little time for, can hardly be held responsible for the appalling apocalypse. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 10:43am
Jockey urges punters to donate4 January, 2020 Kah pledged to donate double her riding fee and any prizemoney earned from her three rides at Caulfield on Saturday. The South Australian jockey finished fourth aboard Zoushack, Licko’paint and Ocean’s Fourteen ensuring her donation would amount to over approximately $3200. The 24-year-old suggested donating to the Wildlife Information, Rescue and Education Service, an Australian organisation that’s aiding the animals caught up in the bushfires.
“Everybody knows the tragedy going on at the moment and there’s so many different organisations that need help at the moment,” Kah said. “The whole country is in flames at the moment, every cent counts. Just donate what you can.”
The Australian bushfire season (since August 1) has burned an
estimated 5.9 million hectares, destroyed over 2,500 buildings and
killed at least 24 people, with several persons missing in Victoria. https://www.facebook.com/cranbourneturfclub/?__tn__=kC-R&eid=ARD21ibM-rpZkjjFCJiFTAjlvMk35sL61hoFGq18YcYdpGIWSRxxZtHEeqbROw4KgAhp5W9ms5P5MFe1&hc_ref=ARQkuBAByhlqNjjCwecRXcsQEUq6ww6UDQzUurJsmR4WxGdyywh0lEX6YqbEwv36dzM&fref=nf&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARBVDKIMDQfXzuJQTHX6cX4C5bbV7nHUgK3iWRwbOrG6r-leoUvcsSQkI8GGJpM5VLxaQRPIi4zPaxQy5Lk9xBMOYaTTYkDSmwdQ7d-tWEXJodgeBK8aglPulfIPr-2BVcd725PyTXR5cP5Jzadmn1MMiDceYMVMXkD3LXshNzd1M3HNBz3TuPhK7RPuWcALmGUkm4O0PjD8URjK4htbU6YAdhC3QXipP1t0q9UvA1wVAZQGy0w5sTDsUJtifdrLSSy_9vrpJaL5iYrvxPVYgkhdRP8yP-LsJ2jg13zH1r1IyKmrvi9yXdXIxiJwg7uVB4LP3fJGz2JJ_a-t6-F3yghLMA" rel="nofollow - Cranbourne Turf Club https://www.facebook.com/cranbourneturfclub/posts/2896023477095976?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARBVDKIMDQfXzuJQTHX6cX4C5bbV7nHUgK3iWRwbOrG6r-leoUvcsSQkI8GGJpM5VLxaQRPIi4zPaxQy5Lk9xBMOYaTTYkDSmwdQ7d-tWEXJodgeBK8aglPulfIPr-2BVcd725PyTXR5cP5Jzadmn1MMiDceYMVMXkD3LXshNzd1M3HNBz3TuPhK7RPuWcALmGUkm4O0PjD8URjK4htbU6YAdhC3QXipP1t0q9UvA1wVAZQGy0w5sTDsUJtifdrLSSy_9vrpJaL5iYrvxPVYgkhdRP8yP-LsJ2jg13zH1r1IyKmrvi9yXdXIxiJwg7uVB4LP3fJGz2JJ_a-t6-F3yghLMA&__tn__=-R" rel="nofollow - - How is this for Karma. Less than 24hours after donating $5,000 to our Bushfire Appeal, Scott & Linda Brown have landed a $38 winner at Caulfield with Exasperate trained by son Matt. https://www.facebook.com/racingdotcom/?__tn__=K-R&eid=ARCHUY5fQZuUiBnKq950CbdZr4RldR2IJe35qVxWk9Kygs1X3cCibC_o0FT4XQ00mFNsymguMKZgQvS6&fref=mentions&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARBVDKIMDQfXzuJQTHX6cX4C5bbV7nHUgK3iWRwbOrG6r-leoUvcsSQkI8GGJpM5VLxaQRPIi4zPaxQy5Lk9xBMOYaTTYkDSmwdQ7d-tWEXJodgeBK8aglPulfIPr-2BVcd725PyTXR5cP5Jzadmn1MMiDceYMVMXkD3LXshNzd1M3HNBz3TuPhK7RPuWcALmGUkm4O0PjD8URjK4htbU6YAdhC3QXipP1t0q9UvA1wVAZQGy0w5sTDsUJtifdrLSSy_9vrpJaL5iYrvxPVYgkhdRP8yP-LsJ2jg13zH1r1IyKmrvi9yXdXIxiJwg7uVB4LP3fJGz2JJ_a-t6-F3yghLMA" rel="nofollow - Racing.com https://postimg.cc/tZG0D1dY" rel="nofollow"> ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 10:48am
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Better hold out the tin on their way in before the races start rather than on the way out. ------------- |
Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 10:50am
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All for Donation Appeals. Just not sure Punters should be a specific target group.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 10:52am
MRC commits bushfire supportThe Melbourne Racing Club will use its two meetings over the Australia Day weekend to support the country's bushfire-ravaged communities. At Caulfield on Saturday, MRC Chairman Peter Le Grand announced that all gate proceeds from the race meetings at Mornington on Friday, 24 January and Caulfield on Saturday, 25 January will be donated to the Bendigo Bank Community Fund. Fire services personnel and their families will also be provided free entry to both racedays. Le Grand said that the Club had determined that all donations made to the MRC Foundation during January will also be forwarded the the Fund.
"We're all devastated by what has happened and we're thinking of the people that have been impacted," Le Grand said. "At the Melbourne Racing Club, we've immediately made a donation to the (Bendigo Bank) Community Fund. "And every donation made to the Melbourne Racing Club Foundation for the month of January will go towards the fund." The commitment by the MRC follows a https://www.racing.com/news/2020-01-03/news-rv-support-for-fire-affected-communities" rel="nofollow - similar pledge by Racing Victoria Chairman Brian Kruger on Friday. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 11:04am
Racing participants support bushfire reliefRacing participants across Australia have pledged support to help with the bushfire relief as blazes continue to burn across the country. Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews declared a State of Disaster on Friday ahead of forecast worsening conditions, confirming 28 people remain unaccounted for in the state's bushfire areas. Many racing participants have joined a growing group of sporting athletes and organisations pledging support to help those affected, with a number of racetracks across the state being used as relief centres. Fire-affected families, horses and livestock have seeked refuge at the Bairnsdale Racing Club this week. While Monday's Wangaratta meeting has been transferred to Echuca, with the Wangaratta track needing to be made available if required for horses and livestock to be fed and watered.
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 11:35am
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Katie Page said the MM Carnival will be used as a platform to raise money, starting with the polo game. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 12:05pm
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THE current catastrophic bushfires happening over a large part of our country should not be blamed on climate change.
When we stopped doing backburning in the cooler months to mitigate the severity of fires in summer, we created an environment where one spark or a careless/ deliberate act could start an inferno. Instead of a smaller, more manageable fire, which could be quickly contained, there is so much fuel on the ground that it’s out of control before the firefighters can even get to the scene. All these inner-city greenies should volunteer to fight the fires to see just how environmentally unfriendly a major bushfire can be. Shirley Wiffrie, Croydon Hills We can lower the risk IF ever there was a time to talk about bushfires, it is now. I don’t know if the climate is changing due to burning coal, a natural cycle, or 7.8 billion people sharing the planet, but changing it appears to be — and the consequences for Australia are devastating. The nation cannot afford another bushfire season such as this. So what’s to be done about it? Here in Victoria our beautiful native forests need regular firebreaks, our farmers need to be able to clear dead wood from their paddocks and clear undergrowth, our councils/VicRoads need to clear roadsides. Let each landowner be allowed to take responsibility for fire prevention. And if we really mean business, bring water inland through the river systems, redirecting water from our tropics in the wet season. Come on, Canberra, think big. Sue Wilson, Korumburra Awful lesson to learn PERHAPS when these bushfires are put out, some blame may be put squarely at the feet of Green dominated councils whose bylaws prevent property owners from clearing away trees and fallen debris. As fires burn at the foot of the high country, it’s time cattle were allowed back in to eat the roughage on the ground and the now lost timber industry revived to keep open forest tracks for access, as well as having heavy machinery close by to keep tracks cleared. Past fires should be a reminder what has to be done, but alas red tape and ridiculous Green ideology keep putting lives at risk. P. Dunlop, Werribee Let’s get practical POLITICIANS wring their hands and pray for rain. Don’t they realise we get heaps of rain, just in the wrong places? For goodness sake, build dams, catch the annual floodwaters and pipe it to drought areas. Reintroduce grazing and burn-offs in national parks. Be proactive before the central Australian desert overwhelms the whole country. Hanson and Katter are the only two pollies who have been pushing for something useful to be done. Russell Mansfield, Patterson Lakes |
Posted By: Baguette
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 12:15pm
| Where are the Greens leadership in all of this? Have they been out to the fire grounds shaking hands and providing photo ops? Would be very interesting to see the reception they’d get. |
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 12:24pm
| How true, Morrison has copped it on all fronts, yet Adam Bandt , Sarah Hanson-Young for starters have gone to ground. Where are they holidaying ? |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 12:29pm
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They aren't State Premiers or Prime Minister. Gladys and Dan however have done a superb job doing what leaders are supposed to do in these times. ------------- |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 12:37pm
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Exactly PT. However you rightards won't let go, will you? The people mentioned could be anywhere, more than likely with their sleeves rolled up rather than setting up photo shots and filming Liberal Part advertisements at a time like this.
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Posted By: Baguette
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 12:39pm
| Neither is Albo PT . But he’s been going out to meet people who have been affected. I would have thought the Greens would have been there with bells on to show how popular they and their philosophy are. |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 12:46pm
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I dont know where they are Baguette, SHY is active on twitter this week putting out information, Bandt hasn't posted for a couple of weeks. Not sure anyone needs to hear from politicians not actively involved in any operations or official media work though. That applies to all sides of politics. ------------- |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 12:51pm
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Actually SHY tweeted this a couple of days ago. She may be like a lot of Australians at the moment, dealing with the aftermath. My family’s property was ravaged by fire two days ago. Thankfully everyone is ok and safe for now. It has been scary as hell. ------------- |
Posted By: Baguette
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 1:07pm
| You’re certainly right about that PT. I miss the pre social media days when we all pulled together in times of crisis and worried about the political fallout and finger pointing later . I see the usual suspects are organising protests in our capital cities next Friday. Starting at 5.30pm when they are all awake. Though the brave souls are very concerned about the smoke. Wear your masks! I’m sure the missing Green leadership will turn up for that. It’s in the inner city after all. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 1:18pm
They'd be understandably fearful for their safety, I'd suggest, warranted or not. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 3:06pm
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Well, they wont have any trees left to worry about now, and the horses in Kosi will be just about all gone, along with the frogs and rare swamp mosses, so wonder what they will focus on now ? ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 3:11pm
| When in doubt or denial, just blame the Greens. That's far easier than recognizing and addressing the fundamental reasons for this awful situation. |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 3:24pm
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There are one hell of a lot like me who are not in denial. Because we know their policies have made it difficult to implement many factors that have had an impact on these fires. I dont do politics ( thats PT speciality ), but I know its happened over time, not overnight, and I have seen first hand how hard its become for people to even drop a dangerous tree, let alone the closure of parks to cattlemen , and many other things. Please dont keep posting your denial rubbish SC. You are worse than Whale with some of the things you say. We all know there are many reasons for this situation, but you can not exclude greens from some of the guilt. Try as you may. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 3:36pm
why do I get dragged into it ?
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 3:40pm
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My sister's home is in a lovely valley mainly used for dairying and beef cattle. The locals there wouldn't be pleased to be called "greenies" however they respect the environment and keep their properties clean and tidy with only the occasional belt of trees for shade. They're surrounded on both sides by steep native vegetation at the toe of the eastern ranges, however the largely inaccessible mountainous areas are generally a kilometre or more from housing and stock shelters. Last night with heavy winds and low humidity a fire front moved more than 30 kilometres with live embers being thrown hundreds if not thousands of metres at a time. Today there's not a building left. Forty years of toil, memorabilia and memories up in smoke. And greenies had f-ck all to do with it. |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 4:51pm
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But, but, but greenies...  How can anyone taking this liar seriously?  ------------- |
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2020 at 10:05am
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Here are some views published in this morning's press, no they are not from politicians, journalists from the ABC or The Gaurdian or the Murdoch press,nor are they media personalities they are the silent majority ONLY
6 per cent of wild fires are started by natural causes. So many of these fires
are started deliberately or result from people doing stupid things that get out
of control. Garry THE Kinglake fires of
February 2009 showed what the Greens’ changes to fuel reduction would do.
Nothing was done to reverse their stupidity. So 10 years on we have been given
the result of not changing the laws back to what makes sense. Ian HOW Victorian Premier
Daniel Andrews isn’t being held to account astonishes me. Andrew Oz I DO recall that after
Black Saturday the royal commission ended up with many recommendations. I’d
like to know how many of those recommendations have been adopted in IT’S the build-up of
fuel that seems to be the main cause and that’s a state responsibility. AshRegister LOCAL and state
governments are responsible for long-term fire management and regional zoning.
Severe drought leads to severe bushfires. Andrew WHY is everyone blaming
the Prime Minister? Each state is responsible for what is happening, not the
Prime Minister. Julie SEEMS a motivating
factor for not burning off is the impact on wildlife. I imagine that wildlife
has a better chance of escaping a slow burn-off than a raging bushfire. John IF
Victoria’s backburning policies need to be put under a microscope, and if it is
deemed that they have contributed to the outcome, then shine the spotlight on
the Greens and Labor. Jeff THE fact is that
emergency management has been a state responsibility and the demands for money
from the federal government just reflects the states’ passing the buck for
their own failures. Echidnajack EVEN the
recommendations of a royal commission in to the Black Saturday fires were not
enough to get the Victorian government to undertake adequate backburning
here. Cathryn WE need a return to forest/bush management to at
least give the bush, its residents and wildlife a fighting chance in the event
of seasonal bushfires. It’s high time that commonsense overruled the “greenie
city-dwellers” who have no understanding of the bush and how to manage and
protect it. Christine WHAT did CAN someone please ask
the Victorian state government how they are going with meeting the 5 per cent
yearly prescribed burn target that was recommended by the royal commission held
after the 2009 Victorian bushfires? Lee |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 9:04am
Victorian fire chief says calls for more fuel reduction burns are an 'emotional load of rubbish'The Country Fire Authority's chief officer Steve Warrington said there was a "fair amount of emotion" around the issue. "We've had fire down the landscape here that has had burns go right through it [during colder months] and it hasn't slowed it at all," he said. The emotive argument is not supported that fuel reduction burning will fix all our problems. "Some of the hysteria that this will be the solution to all our problems is really just quite an emotional load of rubbish, to be honest." |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 9:09am
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NSW Commissioner Shane FitzSimmons said the same thing this morning. It is not the panaces, but part of an overall picture. ------------- |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 9:36am
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Barnaby has it sorted though, on 7 Sunrise today. Concrete doesn't burn, footpaths dont burn. Presumably his answer is to pave the whole country. ------------- |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 9:53am
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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 9:58am
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Billions gone from the tourist industry in years to come Possibly from loss of foreign students as well, I can imagine parents in China, India panicking over this
A massive blow’: Dark side to celebrity bushfire donationsThe celebrity donations to Australia’s bushfires are rolling in – but there’s a dark side, and it will affect our economy for years to come. COMMENT Australia has been dealt https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/bushfire-live-blog-rain-brings-some-relief-to-nsw-towns-but-fresh-challenges-for-fire-crews/live-coverage/e95adc86c79d7f6f20d099a44a64118d" rel="nofollow - a massive blow with these fires . Even after the first green shoots come up through ashy forest floors, and even after burned out homes start to get rebuilt, the tourism industry will be suffering. This is a problem because tourism is a huge industry. It generates $110 billion in economic activity every single year, according to estimates by the Tourism and Transport Forum. What’s more, it has been a shining beacon of growth in our economy. With construction suffering and retail struggling, tourism has been surging ahead. That adds much-needed momentum to an otherwise-wobbly economy. But now, as Australian summer turns to horror, and https://au.usembassy.gov/weather-alert/" rel="nofollow - foreign embassies warn their citizens of danger , tourists are getting worried. SHOULD I CANCEL MY TRIP? On the Lonely Planet website, I see tourists asking for advice about changing or cancelling their trip to Australia. “I am really worried,” said one poster, who had been planning to drive a campervan from Sydney to Cairns with his wife and child. “This seems to be an unprecedented natural catastrophe.” https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/a-massive-blow-dark-side-to-celebrity-bushfire-donations/news-story/8748dc87e0ca331e2f9476d795d478ea" rel="nofollow - https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/a-massive-blow-dark-side-to-celebrity-bushfire-donations/news-story/8748dc87e0ca331e2f9476d795d478ea |
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 10:10am
OMG, on Friday temperatures in Victoria are set to soar again with authorities predicting the state will face the same bush fire conditions that existed earlier this week yet a group of radical activists called Uni Students for Climate Justice are to hold a climate protest on Friday night during peak hour at the State Library before marching through the Melbourne CBD. A naive representative of the group claimed "the march would be peaceful in nature and would not require police attendance". An Acting Assistant Police Commissioner (AAPC) said the protest would cause significant disruption in the city and would require hundreds of police on the ground who could be better used in bush fire-ravaged communities.He said the group was "well known" to police and there was a strong risk "different factions"  might attend the protest. The AAPC, whilst sympathetic to their cause, has told them now is not the time for such a protest.What is the world coming to when police resources are diverted away from helping bush fire victims to watching over a group of naive,radical activists who have nothing better to do with their time on such a potentially horrific day. |
Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 10:13am
| Why don't these cvnts do something meaningful or helpful for once in their lives |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 10:14am
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If the group are pissing off the Right than great stuff. You have all been warned - Take a f**king sickie you sooks. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 10:18am
what a dumb post
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 10:20am
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kiss off. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 10:25am
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you are a real fkin moron, piss off the right ,wow It is not about that, it is about our stretched resources in a time of bushfire crisis. Maybe the police should take sick days off By the way I am of the left and pro appropriate protests , there is a limit though goose
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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 10:27am
| djebel, if you know about racing as that post says about your common sense, I suggest you give up punting and concentrate on feeding pigeons in the park. |
Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 10:28am
Well said Whale
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 10:32am
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A few road blocks and all will be fine. It's like the mob who say now is not the time for Gun control debate. People whinge about these protests all the time. The appropriate time to protest is when it will cause the most drama. The real reason police need to be there is not to control these protesters but to control the kisstards that are anti protest. Police resources and emergency resources should never be stretched. The protesters have given plenty of warning. Personally I'd give no warning at all. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |