Bill Waterhouse-7.30 Report Interview
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Topic: Bill Waterhouse-7.30 Report Interview
Posted By: KangaMick
Subject: Bill Waterhouse-7.30 Report Interview
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2009 at 6:49pm
If you missed the interview the link is below.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/ - http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/
His interview is on the right, just click on it.
Pretty good stuff
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Posted By: Crash
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2009 at 7:54pm
Thanks Kanga
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Posted By: Rosscoe
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2009 at 7:55pm
Cheers mate ...
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Posted By: Ormond
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2009 at 9:23pm
Cheers Kanga
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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2009 at 10:58pm
Who really cares?
I have seen the pieces in the Sydney newspapers and all it is is drumming up publicity for his book, and you either know him and would be interested in the book or you could not care less.
For the record I will get the book but I mean we know all about the Waterhouses defence during the Fine Cotton affair, and his big duels with all the big punters.
The only new thing I found out was that Big Kerry welched on a bet. It just goes to show we all do stupid things in our younger days.
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Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2019 at 12:39pm
Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2019 at 1:20pm
How many secrets went with him? I bet Max Guy will be waiting for him.
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Posted By: early4lunch
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2019 at 2:07pm
The secret of B P for one
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2019 at 1:45pm
Is there any evidence that he had anything to do with Fine Cotton?
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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2019 at 2:43pm
No T, but guilty by association with his son!
My post 12 years ago was a bit harsh, oh the passage of time!
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2019 at 3:15pm
Would rather have a drink with him than the CEO of Westpac.
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Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2019 at 4:14pm
Tlazolteotl wrote:
Is there any evidence that he had anything to do with Fine Cotton? | They could only get them for prior knowledge.
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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2019 at 6:43pm
Yeah prior knowledge.
If that was the case then everyone at Warwick Farm that day needed to be disqualified because it was not a secret, at least that is what I have been told.
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Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2019 at 7:55pm
Except the mugs at the Farm, following the money, hadn’t sent people to every meeting in the country, loaded with cash.....
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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2019 at 8:03pm
I reckon this program will give you a bit more insight into Bill Waterhouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHsTdRK8z8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHsTdRK8z8
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Posted By: monty1
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 1:54pm
Baghdad Bob wrote:
I reckon this program will give you a bit more insight into Bill Waterhouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHsTdRK8z8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHsTdRK8z8 |
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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 4:49pm
"everybody who is anybody meets at the racecourse "
Wouldn't think that applies anymore ?
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 4:57pm
Baghdad Bob wrote:
I reckon this program will give you a bit more insight into Bill Waterhouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHsTdRK8z8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHsTdRK8z8 |
Am absolutely gobsmacked after opening the link.
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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 5:01pm
@ SC
Pretty amazing report if true, constant allegations over decades yet Waterhouse continued on basically unaffected.
I always thought Wran looked slick and shifty, just my opinion
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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 5:22pm
Carioca wrote:
Would rather have a drink with him than the CEO of Westpac. | or the CEO of Qantas or Rugby Australia as well.
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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 6:03pm
Second Chance wrote:
Baghdad Bob wrote:
I reckon this program will give you a bit more insight into Bill Waterhouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHsTdRK8z8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHsTdRK8z8 |
Am absolutely gobsmacked after opening the link. u
Not about Bill W so much, but rather the unlikely if not amazing fact that Baghdad Bob has ever watched let alone approved of a Four Corners show on the ABC. title="Thumbs Up" /> | SC, I was a lot younger then and a bit naive about the ABC, but if I remember correctly Tony Jones , yes that lefty of today, who ran that report was sued by the Waterhouse’s.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 6:15pm
You were naive back then Bob? Who would've guessed.
ps action by the Waterhouse family was summarily thrown out of Court, with costs awarded accordingly.
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Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 6:26pm
I would suggest it is Bob's views that have changed not those of Tony Jones
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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 6:35pm
Just watched that doco - never seen it before. Love the way they were milking the solicitor in their Casino - absolutely sick on the punt - but nothing much changes. Didn’t Packer just take the same gimmick to a much higher level - both in China & at Crown locally. And Wran as Waterhouse’s go to legal advisor - & then he’s running NSW. And then he leaves the job all of a sudden. Deary me - some very smelly stuff in that lot
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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 7:19pm
Back in those days we only had five television channels ( ABC,7,9, SBS and 10 ). 7 and 9 had crappy american "serials " at 8,30, 10 had game shows like Blankety Blanks and SBS half the time had programs on subjects that were of no interest to me, ( cooking recipes in Bolivia etc ) so the only alternative was the ABC.
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Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 7:24pm
Baghdad Bob wrote:
Back in those days we only had five television channels ( ABC,7,9, SBS and 10 ). 7 and 9 had crappy american "serials " at 8,30, 10 had game shows like Blankety Blanks and SBS half the time had programs on subjects that were of no interest to me, ( cooking recipes in Bolivia etc ) so the only alternative was the ABC. |
You didn’t consider getting off your beanbag and doing something else? That’s what most normal people would do if there was nothing they were interested in watching.
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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 7:31pm
Not at 8.30 that night after a long day, I needed to relax with a glass of Grange and chill out watching that program. At that time (1986 ) the Waterhouse name was of great interest to me because of my involvement in racing. If it had been a program on the water birds in the Murrumbidgee River I would not have watched.
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 9:30pm
So you would have missed the Dad's Army series Bob? reruns are on now , good ole English humour, very hard to beat imo.
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2019 at 11:19pm
Havnt watched that link posted, as couldnt be bothered seeing crap about the Waterhouses. Maybe I should go and have a squizz.
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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2019 at 9:56am
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 11:27am
Just been announced Mr Waterhouses funeral is on the 19th December.
Why would it be over 3 weeks away ?
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Posted By: Stainvita
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 1:45pm
The wake will be held in a phonebox
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Posted By: Straight arrow
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 2:11pm
Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 5:31pm
djebel wrote:
Just been announced Mr Waterhouses funeral is on the 19th December.
Why would it be over 3 weeks away ? |
Probably that long for the family to pull the gold teeth from him.
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Posted By: Brudder_A
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 7:49pm
C'mon Bob....
For us ethnics SBS was a great place a get a good hit of real football...
Remember Les Murray a great renamed Hungarian and Mary Kostakidas made all the Greeks proud for a couple of minutes everyday....
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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 8:34am
Here is a trivia question about Bill Waterhouse, what did he have in common with Richard Burton ?
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 1:01pm
Maybe both remarried the same woman Bob.
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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 1:27pm
Carioca, correct, I cannot put it over a person with a nick of Carioca, that horse raced in the 1950s
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 2:00pm
Yes , we both go back aways , my all time favourite , by Felt Yet from Sing Again, hence the name.
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Posted By: Straight arrow
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 9:34pm
Does it all matter that much? They made millions out of mugs! Living it up still trying to sell them selves as one of the good guys! Just grubby. And carmilions (prob spelt wrong) but the one with golden spoon in mouth is pretending to be one of the good guys while he has his finger tickling your balls
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 1:40pm
They threw a tonne of mud at the corpse in the Daily Jibberer today. Accused of everything under the sun. Murder, nobbling, dope cultivation, wildlife smuggling, draft dodging, race fixing
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Posted By: Baghdad Bob
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 8:22pm
Tlazolteotl wrote:
They threw a tonne of mud at the corpse in the Daily Jibberer today. Accused of everything under the sun. Murder, nobbling, dope cultivation, wildlife smuggling, draft dodging, race fixing |
That is the same expose published last weekend in the Herald Sun.
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 9:59pm
If all that is true,,,,and they cant get away with that without some sort of facts, ,,,,,he was a gelati of a man. Just the murder of the bloke ? Brown, ?? Horrible. Love how Bart gave it back,,,,,
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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 10:11pm
No doubt his funeral will be well attended, wonder if there will be any crooks, scammers,thugs and thieves amongst them ?
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 10:13pm
NO,,,surely not !!
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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 10:29pm
Smart Family --- Into the thieving game of bookmaking , All legal .
Probably greedy and off the rails in earlier times when it wasn't necessary but you have to hand it to the whole bunch , Clever numbers men and born to make dollars . When he put Robbie to The Tom Smith Filly, produced a couple of gems.
Beautiful family & while Tom misleads a little with his tipping prices , He's out there doing what they do best .... making a Dollar.
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 10:37pm
Smart Family ??????? OMG. Nasty, nasty people.
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Posted By: pnclick
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2019 at 12:57am
I had lunch with Bill, Robbie and Tom about 10 years ago, along with Kevin Perkins, who was Bill's best mate. Worked out pretty quick ALL the Perkins books about Bill, Robbie and Gai were very favourable!!!
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Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2019 at 6:38am
Whale wrote:
No doubt his funeral will be well attended, wonder if there will be any crooks, scammers,thugs and thieves amongst them ? |
Yep for sure, he mixed with a quite a few politicians.
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Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2019 at 10:40am
I worked for a bookmaker who, a week before Fine Cotton, told me to "keep your eyes open, something big is going down. Just follow the money"
I didn't pay much attention but it was certainly common knowledge so I don't think the waterhouses were alone with the inside knowledge
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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2019 at 10:52am
acacia alba wrote:
Smart Family ??????? OMG. Nasty, nasty people.
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Don't worry about Macca, just a money hungry grub with no moral compass
Rich = beautiful in his sick world
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2019 at 10:55am
Shrunk in the Wash wrote:
I worked for a bookmaker who, a week before Fine Cotton, told me to "keep your eyes open, something big is going down. Just follow the money"
I didn't pay much attention but it was certainly common knowledge so I don't think the waterhouses were alone with the inside knowledge | It's common knowledge that once two know it's not a secret anymore Shrunk, your bookie friend would be on the money there imo.
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Posted By: Straight arrow
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2019 at 12:44pm
You can throw the whole lot of them into the same boat! But she is good for racing!! Whole many times is the media going to trotting that load of 💩 crap out?
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 2:44pm
David Waterhouse reveals father Bill Waterhouses role in racing murderONE of the biggest crimes in racing history has resurfaced
with David Waterhouse making stunning claims about the involvement of
his father Bill Waterhouse in the 1984 murder of Sydney horse trainer
George Brown.
On Saturday, the Herald Suns Andrew Rule
exposed the explosive allegations made by David Waterhouse in a
statement made to police which revealed fresh new details about one of
the biggest stories in turf folklore.
In an eight-page dossier to
police, Waterhouse declared his late bookmaker father Bill Waterhouse
had threatened to silence him after admitting he had sent two thugs who
tortured, murdered and incinerated Sydney horse trainer George Brown in
1984.
David Waterhouse told police that his father made the
admissions on a drive from Sydney to Victoria on a Sunday evening in
July or August, 1989. The morning after making the chilling
admission to his youngest son, the disgraced bookmaker warned him that
if he revealed the truth he too would be in danger.
George Browns murder is universally regarded as the worst crime in Australian racing history.
The charred remains of the Sydney trainer were found in the burnt-out
shell of his car at Bulli Tops south of Sydney, in April 1984, two days
after he refused to go through with a brazen ring in at a Brisbane
race meeting. Speculation linking Bill Waterhouse and his
associates to the murder has loomed over the famous racing family for 37
years, but NSW police did little to investigate the case for years
before finally announcing a $1m reward for information in 2019.
The
Herald Sun also reports that the chilling statement includes
allegations that the thugs who had killed Brown had disappeared after
returning to their homeland of Tonga.
Bill Waterhouse said his
Tongan contacts would have no compunction about using similar tactics to
hide the truth about Browns murder. David Waterhouse was
aghast at the revelation and asked his father: Arent you worried they
could come back at you? to which Bill replied: I got the King to take
them straight back to Tonga and theyve disappeared. Theyll never be
heard of again. The Tongans cook pigs and humans in the ground.
Bill
Waterhouse was a close friend of the then King of Tonga and was Tongas
Honorary Consul-General in Australia from 1970 until the end of the
century.
David Waterhouse told police he kept silent about his
fathers links to the murder for more than two decades because he and
his young family were later menaced by violent criminal Bertie Kidd, a
longtime enforcer for Bill Waterhouses interstate race-fixing racket.
Now
in his 80s and living in Tasmania, Waterhouse went to police with
Kidds threatening letters, some of which named his children and stated
he was acting on behalf of Bill Waterhouse.
He added that he did so last year no longer in fear of Kidd who is now in his 80s and living in Tasmania. Waterhouses stunning admissions to police also details explosive
details about his late father and his network of associates, including
rogue strappers, horse nobblers and enforcers, famously responsible
for fixing dozens of races and pulling numerous racetrack frauds. On
the trip to Melbourne where Bill Waterhouse is alleged to have divulged
his involvement in the murder of Brown to his son, the former bookmaker
had a late lunch and had consumed a bottle of riesling. As a
result, David states, Bill had been speaking very openly about
skulduggery in the racing game, including the Big Philou doping scandal
of 1969. This referred to the nobbling of the Melbourne Cup
favourite by a strapper paid by Bill Waterhouse to stop the horse by
administering a powerful purgative. Waterhouse also boasted that he had got away with nobbling the great racehorse Tails in the same race. David
then asked his father the story behind the death of George Brown,
reminding him of an altercation in which an associate seemed to be
blaming Bill for the George Brown murder. Bill Waterhouse had retorted: Crap. It wasnt my fault. He
then heatedly explained that the associate had asked him to send the
Tongans to get the down deposit that had been paid to Brown the week
before. This was a reference to Brown being paid in advance
to substitute a better-performed horse for the low-class filly Risley at
Doomben two days before his death. Brown had got cold feet and failed to do the ring-in, so the race fixers wanted their bribe money back. David
Waterhouse states his father told him the thugs had gone to Browns
stables in Sweetmouth Ave, Rosebery, on the Monday after the Doomben
fiasco and scooped Brown up and demanded the refund of the money. Brown
asked to go and see (an associate), so the Tongans rang me (Bill
Waterhouse) and I gave them (the associates) car phone number. They
rang (the associate) and he said to bring Brown down to (provincial)
races They met in the car park of the racecourse. (The
associate) demanded the money back and Brown said he would get it this
afternoon. The thugs had taken Brown back to his stables and
he telephoned around desperately, stalling for time and trying to borrow
the money. When he couldnt produce the cash, the thugs drove
him back to the now deserted provincial racecourse, looking for Bills
associates, who had left. They tortured Brown to try and get
the money, David Waterhouse states his father told him. The thugs went
too far and killed the trainer that night before returning to Sydney.
His arms and legs were broken and his skull smashed. For
the inside story of George Browns murder and the Fine Cotton ring-in
scandals, see Andrew Rules new book, Chance, launched Sunday.
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Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 4:26pm
Toughest beat in my life.
I was just only out of school, was tipped into it by mate of old mans, who was a commission agent for it.
Was a looong drive home.
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 4:38pm
In the original Hun story David Waterhouse says that Bill borrowed money off him. Does that sound plausible?
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Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 5:03pm
Would you believe any of them? Would you? No wonder Tommy was pissed off........what was his daughter thinking!!!!
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Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 5:14pm
Tlazolteotl wrote:
In the original Hun story David Waterhouse says that Bill borrowed money off him. Does that sound plausible?
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Not plausible at all
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Posted By: Freefall
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 6:56pm
Back in the late 70's and very early 80's I used to go to a casino above a shop in Rozelle. Free chinese food and drinks if you were playing. They had about 3 blackjack tables and before the first hand was dealt all the cards of all the decks were fanned out on the table.
I happened to work with one of the dealers - not sure who was more surprised the first time I walked in.
I used to think it was owned by Perce & Bruce Galea but have read a Royal Commission report since that puts the ownership elsewhere (although those two were into casinos).
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Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 8:53pm
Hear the story about the card count in a blackjack game in an establishment he was running?
Someone made a ruckus that they counted more 5s than there were supposed to be in the shoe.
He didnt try and prove the punter wrong, just replaced the cards.
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Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 8:53pm
Posted By: Freefall
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2021 at 10:29am
Hey Rusty, yes I did see that. Counting cards is actually pretty simple - just keeping a running count of the ratios of 10's & Aces to the lower cards relative to how many decks remain in the shoe.
There is a reason that casinos allow pen and paper at most other games where there edge is purely mathematical but not the blackjack table where skill is a factor.
I actually preferred the illegal casinos. Once Crown etc arrived $10 beers and expensive food became the norm.
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Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2021 at 10:57am
I used to drive a St George cab back in the early 70's, Neville Wran coming out of the Top Of The Town, Oxford St and Bill close behind, then one night down at The 64 club, Waratah St Kirrawee, Bill and some heavies coming out about 1-2am.......all illegal gambling clubs of course as was Tommos........we cabbies knew where to find a game, and you'd never know who was inside......all the cops turned a blind eye, I wonder why?
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2022 at 2:22pm
David Waterhouse reveals father Bill Waterhouse’s role in racing murderOn Sunday night the Seven Network aired a chilling episode of Crime
Investigation Australia which centered on the harrowing 1984 murder of
Sydney horse trainer George Brown.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-victoria/david-waterhouse-reveals-father-bill-waterhouses-role-in-racing-murder/news-story/108e91e2ed29a3a37dca5c0d5eb0da23" rel="nofollow - The
explosive airing which honed in on the circumstances around one of the
biggest crimes in racing history, followed the Herald Sun's Andrew
Rule's expose last August which revealed explosive allegations made by
David Waterhouse in a statement to police about his father Bill
Waterhouse's involvement in George Brown's murder. Excerpts from the Andrew Rule book Chance follow. In
an eight-page dossier to police, Waterhouse declared his late bookmaker
father Bill Waterhouse had threatened to silence him after admitting he
had sent two thugs who tortured, murdered and incinerated Sydney horse
trainer George Brown in 1984.
David Waterhouse told police that
his father made the admissions on a drive from Sydney to Victoria on a
Sunday evening in July or August, 1989. The charred remains of the Sydney trainer were found in the burnt-out
shell of his car at Bulli Tops south of Sydney, in April 1984, two days
after he refused to go through with a brazen “ring in” at a Brisbane
race meeting. Speculation linking Bill Waterhouse and his
associates to the murder has loomed over the famous racing family for 37
years, but NSW police did little to investigate the case for years
before finally announcing a $1m reward for information in 2019.
The
chilling statement included allegations that the thugs who had killed
Brown had “disappeared” after returning to their homeland of Tonga.
Bill
Waterhouse said his Tongan contacts would have no compunction about
using similar tactics to hide the truth about Brown’s murder. David
Waterhouse was aghast at the revelation and asked his father: “Aren’t
you worried they could come back at you?” to which Bill replied: “I got
the King to take them straight back to Tonga and they’ve disappeared.
They’ll never be heard of again. The Tongans cook pigs and humans in the
ground.”
Bill Waterhouse was a close friend of the then King of
Tonga and was Tonga’s Honorary Consul-General in Australia from 1970
until the end of the century.
David Waterhouse told police he
kept silent about his father’s links to the murder for more than two
decades because he and his young family were later menaced by violent
criminal Bertie Kidd, a longtime enforcer for Bill Waterhouse’s
interstate race-fixing racket.
Now in his 80s and living in
Tasmania, Waterhouse went to police with Kidd’s threatening letters,
some of which named his children and stated he was acting on behalf of
Bill Waterhouse.
He added that he did so last year no longer in fear of Kidd who is now in his 80s and living in Tasmania. Waterhouse’s stunning admissions to police also details explosive
details about his late father and his network of associates, including
rogue strappers, horse “nobblers” and enforcers, famously responsible
for fixing dozens of races and pulling numerous racetrack frauds. On
the trip to Melbourne where Bill Waterhouse is alleged to have divulged
his involvement in the murder of Brown to his son, the former bookmaker
had a late lunch and had consumed a bottle of riesling. As a
result, David states, “Bill had been speaking very openly about
skulduggery in the racing game, including the Big Philou doping scandal
of 1969.” This referred to the nobbling of the Melbourne Cup
favourite by a strapper paid by Bill Waterhouse to “stop” the horse by
administering a powerful purgative. Waterhouse also boasted that he had got away with nobbling the great racehorse Tails in the same race. David
then asked his father the story behind the death of George Brown,
reminding him of an altercation in which an associate seemed to be
blaming Bill for the George Brown murder. Bill Waterhouse had retorted: “Crap. It wasn’t my fault.” He
then heatedly explained that the associate had asked him “to send the
Tongans” to get the down deposit that had been paid to Brown the week
before.” This was a reference to Brown being paid in advance
to substitute a better-performed horse for the low-class filly Risley at
Doomben two days before his death. Brown had got cold feet and failed to do the ring-in, so the race fixers wanted their bribe money back. David
Waterhouse states his father told him the thugs had gone to Brown’s
stables in Sweetmouth Ave, Rosebery, on the Monday after the Doomben
fiasco and “scooped Brown up and demanded the refund of the money”. “Brown
asked to go and see (an associate), so the Tongans rang me (Bill
Waterhouse) and I gave them (the associate’s) car phone number. They
rang (the associate) and he said to bring Brown down to (provincial)
races … “They met in the car park of the racecourse. (The
associate) demanded the money back and Brown said he would get it this
afternoon.” The thugs had taken Brown back to his stables and
he telephoned around desperately, stalling for time and trying to borrow
the money. When he couldn’t produce the cash, the thugs drove
him back to the now deserted provincial racecourse, looking for Bill’s
associates, who had left. “They tortured Brown to try and get
the money,” David Waterhouse states his father told him. The thugs went
too far and killed the trainer that night before returning to Sydney.
His arms and legs were broken and his skull smashed.” For the inside story of George Brown’s murder and the Fine Cotton ring-in scandals, see Andrew Rule’s book, Chance. Racenet
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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2022 at 2:33pm
Interesting
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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2022 at 2:39pm
David is nuts and has been estranged from the family for decades. No idea how it ended but was embroiled in a dispute over being left out of his father's will.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2022 at 2:42pm
He was estranged because he did not agree with their operations wasn't he ?
He was not nuts ?
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Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2022 at 3:29pm
I think you are well off the mark!
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