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I do have Irish ancestry to some degree, if I was either proud or ashamed of it, I would be pretty silly. I mean, some people are dumb enough to pride themselves on having a convict ancestor, scraping the bottom of the barrel there.

I’ll admit this guy doesn’t help.....

rusty nails wrote: I’ll admit this guy doesn’t help..... dressmaker https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/indigenous-people-should-have-been-consulted-on-new-coon-cheese-name-20210113-p56try.html

It’s not a problem Max it’s just indicative of Indigenous Society pre-colonial down to the present day. Nobody speaks for indigenous Australians and never have. It’s not the way their society worked . Anyone can stand up and claim to be an Indigenous spokesperson but how many people agree with them and they speak for is anyone’s guess. I’ve always believed if we want to improve things it has to be done at a local level . Local Indigenous elder working with local authorities to sort out their own unique problems.

We wanted to ensure we listened to all the concerns surrounding the Coon brand name, while also considering comments from consumers who cherish the brand and recognise the origin of its founder Edward William Coon, which they feel connected to," it said.

I'd take short odds that back in the day the cheese maker deliberately used what they knew was a racial slur.

It is a very long time since the "Nigger Boy" soap pads, which was a scourer for dishwashing purposes, was changed to "Bigger Boy". The cheese name is rather less unambiguous.

It is indeed  a racist who thinks the name of a cheese is racist.

What 

The most important thing here that we all seemed to have gotten away from is that Cheer Cheese is a terrible name 

The aboriginal industry isn't at all enlightened in 2021, as I have mentioned, it has a vested interest in promoting ideas that keep the notion of grievance in the spotlight, the end of grievance is the end of the industry, and the metric I use to assess the state of affairs, is the gravity of the grievances being spotlighted, and they appear to me to have about as much substance ( as with the cheese) as fairy floss. That speaks volumes for the fact that discrimination is not really an issue, and if certain aboriginals are being discriminated against, it is largely, as MLK alluded to, on the content of their character. Only a fool would not perceive that some scoundrels who are out and out criminals, play the race card as their defence. They are being persecuted for being black, and that is what put them in jail. I don't believe police make work for themselves by locking up people who haven't committed crimes, they already have enough to do.

TJMitchell wrote: The most important thing here that we all seemed to have gotten away from is that Cheer Cheese is a terrible name  Why not just call it CHEESE

Dr Hagan is not sure what the new name, Cheer, stands for. "I would have liked it to be something a bit more inclusive of First Nations people," he said. "We weren’t even consulted on names. We would like to have contributed."

Baguette wrote: It’s not a problem Max it’s just indicative of Indigenous Society pre-colonial down to the present day. Nobody speaks for indigenous Australians and never have. It’s not the way their society worked . Anyone can stand up and claim to be an Indigenous spokesperson but how many people agree with them and they speak for is anyone’s guess. I’ve always believed if we want to improve things it has to be done at a local level . Local Indigenous elder working with local authorities to sort out their own unique problems.

Tlazolteotl wrote: max manewer wrote: I seem to recall there was reference to that Coon chappy and his cheese-making process on the label, at some stage. I really can't see how a racial slur would assist sales. They never would have used that name in Australia if they didn't think it increased sales.