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bradjm
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 2:01pm |
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Congrats warri, very nice horse.
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Bel Esprit
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 11:24pm |
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Congrats Wirri,nice win!
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Mile high
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Posted: 23 Jan 2011 at 1:17pm |
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yeah! lovely win with Redangelo yesterday!!
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djebel
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Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 10:44pm |
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whitt0
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Posted: 04 Jan 2015 at 6:35am |
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bit long in the rear pasterns!
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Geraldo
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Posted: 04 Jan 2015 at 7:04am |
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Dipbacked.
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TBV - where it is the Silly Season all year round.
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VEEEIGHT
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Posted: 04 Jan 2015 at 7:19am |
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looks back at the knee and hocks camped out. Looks a little roach backed also
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Easily smashed
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Mr Prospector
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Posted: 04 Jan 2015 at 8:19am |
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The back at the knee is a killer plus looks badly down on his bumpers . The clincher though is the poor winter coat (a bit of a dog really ) .
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djebel
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 2:21am |
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whitt0
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 8:31am |
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straight back.
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djebel
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 11:56am |
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Duramente
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Gay3
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 12:35pm |
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A short description as to whether the above horse was any good & if so, over what distance would be handy
. Many of us won't go to the trouble of googling.
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It takes a wise man a lifetime to grow a tree and a fool five minutes to kill one.
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djebel
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 12:37pm |
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He will win the Japanese Derby on Sunday and be in the market for the Arc latter in the year. He is what a classic horse should look like. |
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bradjm
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 12:47pm |
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I hope you haven't wrecked the thread
But I would say a good performer over distances above 1600m Its just subjective looking at a pic but he's a leggy lighter type what a see as miler and above. Actually looks very much like my lion heart I sold, who's the second top rated Australian bred horse in the world class Korean racing lol |
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djebel
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 12:57pm |
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What do you mean ?
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djebel
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 12:58pm |
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This what I consider a miler looks like -
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whitt0
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 1:28pm |
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Nice and long - my preferred type of stock. Just not as popular in the yearling sales ring.
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JadeLace
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 4:25pm |
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Lovely example of a miler. The top horse looks a lean staying type!
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runnerdance
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 4:29pm |
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Lovely shoulder on that horse... good depth of girth. Wanting some more strength behind IMHO and neck. Nice animal and looks v athletic.
If the horse got his chance he would find more fault with me then i did with him!! Lol
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runnerdance
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 4:32pm |
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Bay horse at top of thread doesnt look as balanced or as well put together as one below... front, middle and rear not connected (could be 3 different horses). Plain head etc Just a horse IMHO...
... this is where i will come unstuck and you tell me hes a champion lol
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djebel
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 4:42pm |
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![]() He does look to be the new champion of Japan Duremante.
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rem286
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 6:30pm |
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I'm with runnerdance on Duremante, even though this is obviously a talented horse, it isn't something I would be jumping at. I love his front end but not so much the back end. Maybe this is where I am going wrong and why my strike rate is so poor. The miler I do like the look of. Who is the miler by the way?
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djebel
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 6:41pm |
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The "miler" is Real Steel by Deep Impact he has had 4 runs, 3 over 1800m and 1 over 2000m. I suspect he will eventually revert to a mile and be quite good. Actually his is quite good at the moment having run 2nd to Duremante in the Japanese 2000 Guineas over 2000m. I suspect he will run in the Derby this Sunday, but than so did their champion sprinter of a couple of years ago Lord Kanaloa. |
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bradjm
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 6:42pm |
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Leaner rear end is a staying trait, the power from a big muscled bum is valuable in sprints but consumes more energy over distance. |
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djebel
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 6:42pm |
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At the risk of being a liar again, Lord Kanaloa did not run in the Japanese Derby. My mistake.
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djebel
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 6:43pm |
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Saintly had a pretty good rear end, But I suspect he was not really a stayer he simply out classed them. I do agree with that comment though as a general rule.
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rem286
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Posted: 26 May 2015 at 7:48pm |
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Most of the horses I pick tend to be the sprinting types. I would like to be able to pick out a good middle distance horse though.
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runnerdance
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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 12:21am |
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Still maintain 2nd horse a far better 'animal' IMHO - the top bay might be a champion but he's plain in the looks department. I don't see his appeal at all but I haven't bought a Japanese Derby winner b4 either.
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Group 1 Selections
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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 1:16am |
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First think that stands out for me in the staying type from Japan is the very low knee and short cannon bones. I am very big on the "long levers" on a horse, I don't like the shallow chest cavity and how the horse falls away behind the saddle. not one that would jump out at me in the paddock but wouldn't put a line through before I had seen the pedigree page either.
Cant fault the second horse, maybe a fraction short in the rein but that could be exaggerated by the length and excellent confirmation of the chassis. |
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djebel
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Posted: 02 Jun 2015 at 1:15am |
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