Thoroughbred Village Home Page. Free horse racing tips at Villagebet.com.au. Contact The Mayor by email: Click Here.
Forum Home Forum Home > All Sports - Public Forums > Joffs All Sports Bar
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Personal Relationships of Politicians
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


OldGill.com.au

Personal Relationships of Politicians

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123>
Author
Message
Baghdad Bob View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 13981
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Personal Relationships of Politicians
    Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 10:25am

With all the recent talk and sexual exposes in federal parliament it appears political leadership in Australia may have taken its toll on the personal relationships.

From the end of World War 2 to 1983 (38 years) the ALP had five leaders and the Liberals had six leaders. None of those leaders were ever divorced, or to the best of my knowledge, separated from their spouse. On the other hand since 1983 (the last 38 years) the ALP have had ten leaders and the Liberals seven leaders. It is of interest that of those ten ALP leaders six have been divorced or separated from their spouse and of those Liberal leaders three have been divorced not once, but twice.

I pose the question is the pressure on politicians that much greater over the last 38 years than in the prior 38 years or is Whitlam Government’s  passing of the “no fault divorce”,  as part of the Family Law Act of 1975, the reason divorce amongst politicians, and for that matter in the general community,  no longer considered as “shameful “ as it was in those early post WW2 days ?

Back to Top
Passing Through View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 09 Jan 2013
Location: At home
Status: Offline
Points: 95525
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Passing Through Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 10:39am
Back to Top
Baghdad Bob View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 13981
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 10:56am
PT, as marriages are " on the nose " it follows there will be less divorces. I believe "try before you buy" has gained in popularity over the past 20 years or so, meaning no marriage or divorce is officially recorded.  
Back to Top
Passing Through View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 09 Jan 2013
Location: At home
Status: Offline
Points: 95525
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Passing Through Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:04am
I think it runs parallel to organized religion being on the nose and people choosing a less formal more flexible commitment arrangement.

Maybe a count of people in legal de facto relationships and legal severance of those should be included to get a more accurate number.
Back to Top
Passing Through View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 09 Jan 2013
Location: At home
Status: Offline
Points: 95525
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Passing Through Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:14am
The number of divorces is only useful as a percentage of marriages. The obvious does seem to be happening though with less marriages there are no less less divorces but they are lasting nearly 2 years longer than they did 20 years ago, still failing but lasting longer with more committed people doing it. 1 in 3 still end in divorce.
Back to Top
max manewer View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 32947
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote max manewer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:17am
LOL, BB must be the last of the "blame Whitlam" brigade, these are not things peculiar to Australia, divorce law changes would have mirrored trends elsewhere in the developed world, marriage as a legal protection is virtually redundant, de facto relationships are now well under the umbrella of the law, it really does not make a lot of difference in legal terms. 
Back to Top
Passing Through View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 09 Jan 2013
Location: At home
Status: Offline
Points: 95525
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Passing Through Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:30am
I thought there was a thread on this. It has come up a number of times most recently in the case of Beetrooter Barnyard who was complaining about the stress of politics and away time on marriage, and who can forget old mate Kevin Andrews was handing out his special relationship counselling vouchers. Might have got mixed up in other threads. Still hasn't gotten rid of the vouchers 7 years on.

Back to Top
Tlazolteotl View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 02 Oct 2012
Location: Elephant Butte
Status: Online
Points: 38928
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tlazolteotl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:36am
Manners are of more importance than laws

Edmund Burke
Back to Top
Passing Through View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 09 Jan 2013
Location: At home
Status: Offline
Points: 95525
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Passing Through Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:38am
That is Porter's solicitor. Not sure setting an attack dog like that on Louise Milligan will play well.
Back to Top
Baghdad Bob View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 13981
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:38am
Max, I am not blaming Whitlam, I think the changing of the Family Law act was well over due, which would be one thing his government actually got right.Smile
I agree although marriages are in decline, de facto are on the rise and whether or not breakdowns of those relationships are recorded as "divorces" or "separations" would skew statistics of the number of broken relationships due to divorce.
Back to Top
Baghdad Bob View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 13981
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:46am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I thought there was a thread on this. It has come up a number of times most recently in the case of Beetrooter Barnyard who was complaining about the stress of politics and away time on marriage, and who can forget old mate Kevin Andrews was handing out his special relationship counselling vouchers. Might have got mixed up in other threads. Still hasn't gotten rid of the vouchers 7 years on.


PT, if one wanted to troll over the  love lives of all politicians in Canberra we could go on for days, that is why I confined my initial post to party political leaders, for every Kevin Andrews there would be more Liberals, ALP and Independents in Canberra in the same boat. 
Back to Top
max manewer View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 32947
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote max manewer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:46am
Marriages are more akin to business partnerships than romance novels would allow, certainly a lot of people kept out of marriage, or if divorced, swore not to marry again, because of fear of getting burnt financially, but the law has caught up with that dodge, and now people in de facto set-ups have similar redress, albeit perhaps not as easily as through the Family Court. And of course the child support laws apply regardless of marital status of the parents.
Back to Top
Passing Through View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 09 Jan 2013
Location: At home
Status: Offline
Points: 95525
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Passing Through Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:51am
Hey Bob, you were the one who dragged Whitlam into it as an option for the cause of ''the problem''
Back to Top
acacia alba View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 31 Oct 2010
Location: Hunter Valley
Status: Offline
Points: 46758
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote acacia alba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:52am
My OH ,  ( second time for both of us and have over 25 years together now ), always says weddings are a waste of a Saturday afternoon.  Good for nothing but interfereing with the racing. LOLI tend to agree with him.

animals before people.
Back to Top
max manewer View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 32947
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote max manewer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:53am
I'm not surprised politicians have high divorce rates, they are in a "theatrical" profession, and the partner would be hard pressed to detect where the acting stopped, and the "real" person began.
Back to Top
Baghdad Bob View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 13981
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:55am
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2021/03/20/christian-porters-lawyer-rebekah-giles-said-to-her-ex-you-and-the-woman-will-be-very-happy-as-long-as-you-keep-your-viagra-script-current-keep-flashing-your-cash-and-keep-the-co/

Where did that Kangaroo Court website, come out with that on Rebekah Giles when she acted for Brittany Higgins and Sarah Hanson Young in their recent defamation cases. Thought so, waited until it could bring her outburst to public's attention when she was acting for Porter from the conservative side of politics.
Back to Top
Tlazolteotl View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 02 Oct 2012
Location: Elephant Butte
Status: Online
Points: 38928
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tlazolteotl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 11:56am
People call their defactos partners these days so you are sometimes unsure if they are talking about a business partner or a defacto.
Manners are of more importance than laws

Edmund Burke
Back to Top
Baghdad Bob View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 13981
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 12:00pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Hey Bob, you were the one who dragged Whitlam into it as an option for the cause of ''the problem''

PT, where did I use the words "the problem" ? I suggested the removal of " no fault " divorce was a possible reason, not a "problem ".
Back to Top
furious View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 30976
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote furious Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 12:04pm
I'm old fashioned I guess I still prefer married.  One daughter had her partner split after three years after she spent most of her inherited money (less than 1/4 left).  Only because he didn't like the west and liked the good life.  Which meant she had to spend more.  And she loved it until they split.  Even then he didn't want her to come back home.  We apparently dragged her down.  Nice to know he had such a high opinion of anyone living where they can afford to buy a house and still live.  Although today I don't think that is even possible out here.  A house of a friend went for over $900,000 and one across the road went for over $1 million.

They would of still split up if married I guess but maybe she wouldn't of been in the mess she was.  She's back on her feet now due to a good job and good friends.  And yes she back out west!
Back to Top
Baghdad Bob View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 13981
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 12:07pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I'm not surprised politicians have high divorce rates, they are in a "theatrical" profession, and the partner would be hard pressed to detect where the acting stopped, and the "real" person began.

 If you log onto YouTube you will see many "theatrical performances" by one Paul J Keating in parliamentary Question Time and he nicely fits into the category of the former leaders of the ALP I  mentioned in my initial post.
Back to Top
Tlazolteotl View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 02 Oct 2012
Location: Elephant Butte
Status: Online
Points: 38928
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tlazolteotl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 12:12pm
Very interesting woman Rebekah Giles. She's had more than 100 operations to fix injuries she sustained in the tsunami.

Manners are of more importance than laws

Edmund Burke
Back to Top
max manewer View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 32947
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote max manewer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 12:25pm
It's the 95% of lawyers that give the rest a bad name, unfortunately.
Back to Top
Baghdad Bob View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 13981
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 12:35pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

It's the 95% of lawyers that give the rest a bad name, unfortunately.

I will tell my wife that Wink
Back to Top
max manewer View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 32947
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote max manewer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 12:46pm
I would have taken short odds you would bite, BB. Hopefully your wife can laugh at that little joke.
Back to Top
Red Hare View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 12 Jan 2015
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 4233
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Red Hare Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 12:46pm
Politics, like mining, is a single's game.
Back to Top
max manewer View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 32947
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote max manewer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 12:47pm
Way out west where the rain don't fall ?
Back to Top
Baghdad Bob View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 13981
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I would have taken short odds you would bite, BB. Hopefully your wife can laugh at that little joke.

Yes she will appreciate that joke...not. As long as you do not take short odds , like the $1.24  Redemption did yesterday when she suggested for a lazy $4,000 she could pick up just under $1,000 in two hours.....

"Forum

GWS v St.Kilda, total points, under 156.5, odds $1.24

LOL

Thank you

They will struggle to even get to 100 today.
$4000 x $1.24.  basically a grand profit in 2 hours."

Redemption has not posted since.

Back to Top
max manewer View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 32947
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote max manewer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 12:59pm
I doubt auntie red placed that bet, BB, but if she did, is probably under sedation.
Back to Top
jujuno View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 25 Jan 2010
Location: Coasting
Status: Offline
Points: 47065
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jujuno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 5:59pm
Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

PT, as marriages are " on the nose " it follows there will be less divorces. I believe "try before you buy" has gained in popularity over the past 20 years or so, meaning no marriage or divorce is officially recorded.  

 my mother once said she would have loved to be young in these times, with 'try before you buy'...

 of course, if she had, none of my six brothers and sisters...or me...would have been born.

 Wink

 
Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes...
Back to Top
jujuno View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 25 Jan 2010
Location: Coasting
Status: Offline
Points: 47065
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jujuno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2021 at 6:03pm
Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

My OH ,  ( second time for both of us and have over 25 years together now ), always says weddings are a waste of a Saturday afternoon.  Good for nothing but interfereing with the racing. LOLI tend to agree with him.


 I'm on board with that...

 Maybe the French have it right. Marry for life but have countless mistresses/ lovers on the side...

 Confused
Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes...
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.05
Copyright ©2001-2022 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.103 seconds.