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    Posted: 14 May 2020 at 2:11pm
Just might be the best So You Think so far.

PELTZER (AUS)Bay colt 2017 
So You Think
Bay 2006
High Chaparral
Bay 1999
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Kasora
Brown 1993
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Delsy
1975
1972
1-l
13-c
Kozana
Brown 1982
Kris
Koblenza
1976
1966
2-o
1-n
Triassic
Bay 1990
Tights
Bay 1981
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Dancealot
Bay 1971
Round Table
Music Please
1954
1963
2-f
16-g
Astral Row
Brown 1979
Long Row
Brown 1970
Linacre
Front Row
1960
1965
15-a
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Pak Bun Bay
Bay 1970
Matinee Idol
Philipolo
1956
1960
13-e
13-a
Miss Otto
Chestnut 2009
Elusive Quality
Bay 1993
Gone West
Bay 1984
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Secrettame
Chestnut 1978
Secretariat
Tamerett
1970
1962
2-s
2-f
Touch of Greatness
Bay 1986
Hero's Honor
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
Glowing Tribute
1961
1973
2-d
1-s
Ivory Wand
Bay 1973
Sir Ivor
Natashka
1965
1963
8-g
13-c
Sizzie 'Em
Bay 1999
Flying Spur
Bay 1992
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Rolls
Chestnut 1984
Mr Prospector
Grand Luxe
1970
1974
13-c
4-g
Shanama
Bay 1984
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Milan Mill
1960
1962
19-b
22-d
Safiah
Bay 1969
St Paddy
Flaming Heart
1957
1963
14-c
22-d
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,5m x 5m Mr Prospectorx 4m,5f




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Interestingly his4yo 3/4 sister by High Chaparral is absolutely legless.
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Sacked from the McEvoy yard.

Who are the trainers she has had since ?

She is still a valuable breeding proposition.

Too many nicely bred mares in Australia end up in the wrong hands. 




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when it constantly gets beaten by 10 length I doub5 the trainer is the issue. Especially when it’s had 3
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Clearly no patience was shown by Adelaide's premier trainer.






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Another impressive win today.

So You Think has two good rising 3yo colts to go into battle for him next season.  




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He's had a good season just making it to 100 winners.  Did you see he had a daughter pick up a LR in France over 2800m this week.
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Also Peltzer is from the old Mill Reef/Pipe of Peace family so you'd think eventually he'd go out over a trip.
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You can't blame High Chaparral.  None of the first three filly foals ran well.  THe More than Ready is up in Darwin finishing last.  But you also can't blame the breeder they are putting her to good stallions.  It really makes you wonder how this boy made $260,000 as a yearling with the poor showings from the first few foals.  He's obviously got all the good genes but there must of been plenty of bad ones for the others to be such failures.  Either that or this is a colt family with the fillies only worth anything at stud.
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I always like to see that Never Bend / Bold Reason mix also.  But that would have been in the High Chaparral filly.  It's worked here that is for sure.
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

He's had a good season just making it to 100 winners.  Did you see he had a daughter pick up a LR in France over 2800m this week.<div id="UMS_TOOLTIP" style=": ; cursor: pointer; : 2147483647; : transparent; top: -100000px; left: -100000px;">


What was the name of the winner, the date and the name of the race? I assume it was a handicap? I ask these questions because I keep a list of all of So You Thinks stakes/black tyoe (Group/Listed) wins as a sire.

Any help is appreciated.
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Hi Jamal,

The SYT winner in France last week was a 4yo mare called Think of Me.

The race was 2800m Listed at Deauville called the Prix Gold River. Named after Gold River who won the 1981 Arc De Triopmphe when ridden by Aussie born jockey Gary Moore.
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Lord Hybrow - thanks very much for your help.

So You Think's Stakes (Group/Listed) Winners


http://www.thoroughbredinternet.com/stakes.php?fromdate=0&Day=&Month=&Year=&Name=&Track=&Status=&Surface=&County=&Country=&Hemi=&Horse=&HorseSuffix=&Sire=so+you+think&Dam=&BSire=&Breeder=&BreederSuffix=&Winners=Win&Jumps=No&Submit=Search

SW = Set Weights

HCP = Handicap

QLTY = Quality

WFA = Weight For Age

SWP = Set Weights Plus Penalties



2016 (4)

27th of February: Gold Rush: Group 2 Breeders Stakes (1200m SW at Matamata, New Zealand)

17th of September: La Diosa: Listed Canterbury Belle Stakes (1200m SW at Riccarton, New Zealand)

15th of October: La Diosia: Listed John Griggs Stakes (1400m SW at Ashburton, New Zealand)

12th of November: La Diosia: Group 1 NZ 1,000 Guineas (1600m SW at Riccarton, New Zealand)

2017 (5)

22nd of January: Northwest Passage: Listed Hobart Guineas: (2100m SW at Hobart, Australia)

3rd of February: Northwest Passage: Listed Tasmanian Darby (2200m SW at Hobart, Australia)

17th of February: Northwest Passage: Listed Torney Night Cup (2500m HCP at Mooney Valley, Australia)

25th February: La Diosa: Group 2 Surround Stakes (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia)

4th of March: Inference: Group 1 Randwick Guineas: (1600m SW at Randwick, Australia)

2018 (10)

17th of February: Global Thinking: Listed Southlake Guineas (1600m SW at Invercargill, New Zealand)

23rd of March: Think Bleue: Group 3 Alexandra Stakes (1600m HCP at Moonee Valley, Australia)

24th of March: D'Argento: Group 1 Rosehill Guineas (2000m SW at Rosehill, Australia)

24th of March: The Pinnacle: Group 3 Epona Stakes (1900m HCP at Rosehill, Australia)

11th of April: Mr Marathon Man: Listed Prix Jacques Laffitte (1800m HCP at Longchamp, France)

21st of April: Higher Ground: Group 3 Frank Packer Plate (2000m SW at Randwick, Australia)

21st of April: Sopressa: Group 3 Auraria Stakes (1800m SW at Morphetville, Australia)

5th of May: Sopressa: Group 1 Australasian Oaks (2000m SW at Morphetville, Australia)

26th of May: Heavenly Thought: Group 3 Grand Prix Stakes (2200m SW at Eagle Farm, Australia)

26th December: So Si Bon: Listed Lord Stakes (1700m HCP at Caulfield, Australia)

2019 (12)

16th of February: Nakeeta Jane: Group 2 Light Fingers Stakes (1200m SW at Randwick, Australia)

2nd of March: Nakeeta Jane: Group 1 Surround Stakes (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia)

13th of April: Fasika: Listed South Pacific Classic (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia)

20th of April: Quick Thinker: Listed Champagne Stakes (1600m SW at Auckland, New Zealand)

11th of May: So We Are: Listed Adelaide Guineas (1600m SW at Morphetville, Australia)

1st of June: Coachwhip: Group 3 Arlington Matron Stakes (1800m HCP at Churchill Downs, America)

10th of August: So Si Bon: Group 3 Auries Star Handicap (1200m HCP at Flemington, Australia)

31st of August: Quick Thinker: Group 3 Ming Dynasty Quality (1400m HCP at Rosehill)

14th of September: Just Thinkin: Listed Dulcify Stakes (1500m SWP at Rosehill)

19th of October: Thought Of That: Group 3 Ladbrokes Classic (2000m SW at Caulfield)

23rd of October: Long Jack: Listed Geelong Classic (2200m SW at Geelong, Australia)

7th of December: Beautiful Mind: Listed Jungle Dawn Classic (1400m SW at Ascot, Australia)


2020 (6)

8th of February: Miss Siska: Group 3 Carlyon Cup (1600m SWP at Caulfield, Australia)

22nd of February: Miss Siska: Group 2 Peter Young Stakes (1800m WFA at Caulfield, Australia)

7th of March: Fasika: Group 3 Winona Girl Quality (1200m HCP at Randwick, Australia)

28th of March: Quick Thinker: Group 2 Tulloch Stakes (2000m SW at Rosehill, Australia)

4th of April: Quick Thinker: Group 1 ATC Derby (2400m SW at Randwick, Australia)

21st of May: Think Of Me: Listed Prix Gold River - Fonds Europeen de l'Elevage (2800m HCP at Deauville, France)

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Sorry i forgot Realms Of Flowers from the 1 6th of May




So You Think's Stakes (Group/Listed) Winners


http://www.thoroughbredinternet.com/stakes.php?fromdate=0&Day=&Month=&Year=&Name=&Track=&Status=&Surface=&County=&Country=&Hemi=&Horse=&HorseSuffix=&Sire=so+you+think&Dam=&BSire=&Breeder=&BreederSuffix=&Winners=Win&Jumps=No&Submit=Search

SW = Set Weights

HCP = Handicap

QLTY = Quality

WFA = Weight For Age

SWP = Set Weights Plus Penalties



2016 (4)

27th of February: Gold Rush: Group 2 Breeders Stakes (1200m SW at Matamata, New Zealand)

17th of September: La Diosa: Listed Canterbury Belle Stakes (1200m SW at Riccarton, New Zealand)

15th of October: La Diosia: Listed John Griggs Stakes (1400m SW at Ashburton, New Zealand)

12th of November: La Diosia: Group 1 NZ 1,000 Guineas (1600m SW at Riccarton, New Zealand)

2017 (5)

22nd of January: Northwest Passage: Listed Hobart Guineas: (2100m SW at Hobart, Australia)

3rd of February: Northwest Passage: Listed Tasmanian Darby (2200m SW at Hobart, Australia)

17th of February: Northwest Passage: Listed Torney Night Cup (2500m HCP at Mooney Valley, Australia)

25th February: La Diosa: Group 2 Surround Stakes (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia)

4th of March: Inference: Group 1 Randwick Guineas: (1600m SW at Randwick, Australia)

2018 (10)

17th of February: Global Thinking: Listed Southlake Guineas (1600m SW at Invercargill, New Zealand)

23rd of March: Think Bleue: Group 3 Alexandra Stakes (1600m HCP at Moonee Valley, Australia)

24th of March: D'Argento: Group 1 Rosehill Guineas (2000m SW at Rosehill, Australia)

24th of March: The Pinnacle: Group 3 Epona Stakes (1900m HCP at Rosehill, Australia)

11th of April: Mr Marathon Man: Listed Prix Jacques Laffitte (1800m HCP at Longchamp, France)

21st of April: Higher Ground: Group 3 Frank Packer Plate (2000m SW at Randwick, Australia)

21st of April: Sopressa: Group 3 Auraria Stakes (1800m SW at Morphetville, Australia)

5th of May: Sopressa: Group 1 Australasian Oaks (2000m SW at Morphetville, Australia)

26th of May: Heavenly Thought: Group 3 Grand Prix Stakes (2200m SW at Eagle Farm, Australia)

26th December: So Si Bon: Listed Lord Stakes (1700m HCP at Caulfield, Australia)

2019 (12)

16th of February: Nakeeta Jane: Group 2 Light Fingers Stakes (1200m SW at Randwick, Australia)

2nd of March: Nakeeta Jane: Group 1 Surround Stakes (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia)

13th of April: Fasika: Listed South Pacific Classic (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia)

20th of April: Quick Thinker: Listed Champagne Stakes (1600m SW at Auckland, New Zealand)

11th of May: So We Are: Listed Adelaide Guineas (1600m SW at Morphetville, Australia)

1st of June: Coachwhip: Group 3 Arlington Matron Stakes (1800m HCP at Churchill Downs, America)

10th of August: So Si Bon: Group 3 Auries Star Handicap (1200m HCP at Flemington, Australia)

31st of August: Quick Thinker: Group 3 Ming Dynasty Quality (1400m HCP at Rosehill)

14th of September: Just Thinkin: Listed Dulcify Stakes (1500m SWP at Rosehill)

19th of October: Thought Of That: Group 3 Ladbrokes Classic (2000m SW at Caulfield)

23rd of October: Long Jack: Listed Geelong Classic (2200m SW at Geelong, Australia)

7th of December: Beautiful Mind: Listed Jungle Dawn Classic (1400m SW at Ascot, Australia)


2020 (7)

8th of February: Miss Siska: Group 3 Carlyon Cup (1600m SWP at Caulfield, Australia)

22nd of February: Miss Siska: Group 2 Peter Young Stakes (1800m WFA at Caulfield, Australia)

7th of March: Fasika: Group 3 Winona Girl Quality (1200m HCP at Randwick, Australia)

28th of March: Quick Thinker: Group 2 Tulloch Stakes (2000m SW at Rosehill, Australia)

4th of April: Quick Thinker: Group 1 ATC Derby (2400m SW at Randwick, Australia)

16th of May: Realm Of Flowers: Group 3 South Australian Fillies Classic (2500m SW at Morphetville, Australia)

21st of May: Think Of Me: Listed Prix Gold River - Fonds Europeen de l'Elevage (2800m HCP at Deauville, France)




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I hope they haven not blown a 2yo group 1 win for this fella by not going to Brisbane ?

Of course we will never know but gee it looks a lost opportunity. 




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