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HarnessGuru 
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Are you talking to me? What did I say was rubbish?
Edited by horlicks - 22 Mar 2026 at 1:35pm |
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Afros
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 2:15pm |
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All it proves HG is that you're looking for confirmation of your existing opinion rather than facts, that's why the 2% excites you so.
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The worlds oldest fossil was discovered in Australia, they named it Rupert Murdoch.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 2:19pm |
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I don't follow Oz politics much but isn't the rise of One Nation at the expense of the Libs proof that the Libs are no longer seen as a distinct alternative to Labor? It's as simple as that in the end, right?
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 2:24pm |
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HG will be along shortly to explain it to you, he is the Pauline whisperer,
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 2:34pm |
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Well he probably has a more straightforward answer than all the intellectual gymnastics I see on political threads. Just the same rise of populism that the rest of the globe has seen for the last couple of decades, for the same reasons, I'm guessing.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 2:49pm |
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Stayer, a big part of ON rise is stealing from LNP. So that swing is inconsequential to elections.
The posse think thats the ONLY reason though.
Whats also happening is a small move in the needle from Labor or Labor preference voters. At the moment it is probably 2-3% so not enough to change election results but it is moving in the 'right' direction for ON. |
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 2:50pm |
As opposed to you basing your opinion based on facts you completely misread eg Labor/Green swing was 1% not 3%. Its not about exciting me or not. Its about the truth.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 2:52pm |
Hmm 3rd 'edit' in a week or so where I cant even notice what the edit was
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 3:35pm |
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Well worth a read. How refreshing to read a well written and sourced argument. Interesting that most of academia (if the essay is reflective of the true situation) seems to have only been writing about populism for less than 10 years.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01402382.2025.2591874 |
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 4:52pm |
Thanks for the laughs Onesy
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 5:02pm |
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GRONK
Gina Reinhardt's One Nation Klan I like it. |
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 5:08pm |
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Unfortunately more lunatics than gronks atm.
Australian Lunatic Party. + those that are 'greened' out. |
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 6:06pm |
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Liberal Party in SA preferences One Nation in Ngadjuri and thus gifts a seat to ON leading to that Party's first Lower House State seat anywhere other than in Qld.
Preference Labor or some Independent and they arguably retain the seat.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 7:02pm |
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How would that work?
LNP finished 3rd in the count. Preferences to independent void cos indendent finished lower. Preference to Labor and Labor win the seat. Isnt that how it works? Unless claiming people changed their vote because of the preferencing?
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 7:06pm |
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Preference to Labor and Labor win the seat. Isnt that how it works? No.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 7:44pm |
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I dare say the average punter thinks that "populism" is another way of saying "popularism". Which is kinda the opposite.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 8:27pm |
LNP were 3rd. After 4th-7th (or how many ever in the seat) got knocked out LNP were still 3rd. Therefore they got knocked out and wherever LNP preferences went would have won the seat. Rather than a one worder please explain how LNP could have won the seat as we'll either find out its incorrect and I can carry on with my understanding of preferences or I'll learn something
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