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Bloke Who Says We Need To Listen To Murris About Back Burning Also Says Get Over The Invasion

Some say it’s because Sunrise has decided to focus their energy on the $100M sports grants that Senator McKenzie decided to bribe marginal seats with leading into the 2019 federal election

It may also be because January 26th is taking place on a Sunday this year, so the public holiday is taking place on the 27th, meaning that no one really know which day is the one they should be talking about.

Or it could be the fact that the culture wars have been hijacked by our government’s staunch inaction on climate change in the face of one billion dead native animals a growing human death toll from this year’s bushfire season.

For the Murdoch media and similarly minded government bootlickers, the fires were not caused by the fact that Australia just experienced hottest and driest year on record, but because of a fictional collection of made-up greens councillors and non-existent state MPs who have worked tirelessly at stopping our wildly underfunded firefighters and parks rangers from engaging in Aboriginal land management practices.

One of these climate change deniers is Betoota Heights watersports retailer, Ike Cack (53) – who reckons these bloody greenies and virtue signalling snowflakes need to listen to the blackfellas about how to manage the land and that global warming is a socialist conspiracy aimed at creating money for big wind farm.

Like many voters around the country who are looking for ways to quash their deep-seated anxieties that the scientists who spend their lives studying climatic trends might actual be correct in their predictions, Ike has been vocal in pushing this ‘greenies caused this bushfires’ conspiracy online and at the dinner table.

However, Ike’s newfound love for listening to blackfellas now clashes with his historic political view that blackfellas are whingers and they have too much say over how our country is run.

“No” says a noticeably exhausted Ike.

“Listen to them when it comes to bushfires, but not when it comes to Australia Day.”

“They have a long history in managing fires in this country, and the lefties won’t listen to them. But I’m also sick of these lefties giving them too much air time on January 26!”

“They need to get over the Invasion. We are here now. But yeah, I still think we should listen to what the Murris have to say when it comes to how white people treat the bush. But yeah, I’m sick of hearing about how white people treat Murris”

Dr E wrote: Making sense ... Bloke Who Says We Need To Listen To Murris About Back Burning Also Says Get Over The Invasion CLANCY OVERELL | Editor As debates rage over what caused this summer’s unprecedented 4-month bushfire season, the annual tensions over Australia Day seem to be lost in the news cycle. Some say it’s because Sunrise has decided to focus their energy on the $100M sports grants that Senator McKenzie decided to bribe marginal seats with leading into the 2019 federal election It may also be because January 26th is taking place on a Sunday this year, so the public holiday is taking place on the 27th, meaning that no one really know which day is the one they should be talking about. Or it could be the fact that the culture wars have been hijacked by our government’s staunch inaction on climate change in the face of one billion dead native animals a growing human death toll from this year’s bushfire season. For the Murdoch media and similarly minded government bootlickers, the fires were not caused by the fact that Australia just experienced hottest and driest year on record, but because of a fictional collection of made-up greens councillors and non-existent state MPs who have worked tirelessly at stopping our wildly underfunded firefighters and parks rangers from engaging in Aboriginal land management practices. One of these climate change deniers is Betoota Heights watersports retailer, Ike Cack (53) – who reckons these bloody greenies and virtue signalling snowflakes need to listen to the blackfellas about how to manage the land and that global warming is a socialist conspiracy aimed at creating money for big wind farm. Like many voters around the country who are looking for ways to quash their deep-seated anxieties that the scientists who spend their lives studying climatic trends might actual be correct in their predictions, Ike has been vocal in pushing this ‘greenies caused this bushfires’ conspiracy online and at the dinner table. However, Ike’s newfound love for listening to blackfellas now clashes with his historic political view that blackfellas are whingers and they have too much say over how our country is run. “No” says a noticeably exhausted Ike. “Listen to them when it comes to bushfires, but not when it comes to Australia Day.” “They have a long history in managing fires in this country, and the lefties won’t listen to them. But I’m also sick of these lefties giving them too much air time on January 26!” “They need to get over the Invasion. We are here now. But yeah, I still think we should listen to what the Murris have to say when it comes to how white people treat the bush. But yeah, I’m sick of hearing about how white people treat Murris”

I'm not sure what I've denied, other than that increased CO2 isn't going to lead to increased yields unless other requirements are met. It is amusing how your back tracking after making a fool of yourself again.

I like how you now claim to have been 'playing me along' I mean you've proven yourself to be clueless on many subjects so far, what is so different here?

Frankly you have no idea about the subject and are just parroting sources and information that back up your right wing climate sceptic point of view. But here you are running around like a retarded monkey proclaiming yourself the champion after proving yourself a clueless fool again, stick to the falafel van, hopefully (for your customer) that is something you know about.

Still haven't figured out plants need more than just CO2 to perform photosynthesis hey dummy?

Scientists were wrong in 1970 when they predicted all sorts of places would be under the sea in 50 years ...

   I shook my head last week when one of our Medical Scientists / Professor

Dies aged 51.....

Dr E wrote: Dr E wrote: Afros wrote: If you had any experience with crops on a large scale shouty, hint large scale doesn't include the tomato plant on your back patio or the miniature lemon and lime you got at bunnings, you would be aware that prolonged heat is as detrimental to producing a good crop as prolonged cold. If climate change occurs as predicted large tracts of cropping lands will at least see reduced viability as farming land. There you go! You embarrass yourself again, pretending to know something relevant ... deary me. ... have you ever heard of the "Greenhouse Effect"??? Do you understand that the temperature has risen 0.9 degrees in 140 years ... crop yields have increased FIVE FOLD since 1940 ... due to a combination of slight warming and increased CO2 - PLANT FOOD DUMMY!  Scientist maintain that we are at less than half the CO2 levels that are required to produce optimum conditions for crop growth and yields ... if we can get there, that would help feed the planet, eh! Those are the facts, anything else is fantasy. go away, learn something, return and try to contribute. You have gone so far off the track trying to vindicate your ignorance it is just a load of crap now. Let's get back to the conversation   As I have told you consistently, and you choose to ignore with deflection and conflation, there are literally thousands of "controlled" scientific experiments and they ALL confirm the enormous improvement in crop yields under higher CO2 atmospheric levels - no schit ... and no variance in anything other than CO2 levels! Since you either refuse, or are incapable of research and choose to go off on irrelevant tangents with Bull Schit references, here are a couple to start with ... some pictures and graphs with bright colours may help ... enjoy - I can't help you with this any further, so please stop asking ... thanks! https://bmcplantbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12870-018-1243-3 https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/21/co2-and-crops-nas-vs-science/

Shouty, I have not once said that increased CO2 levels alone are bad for plants. Anyone who listened in science class in school should understand that.

As I have maintained, if climate change follows predictions and the climate in certain areas becomes hotter and drier then farming in these area's will become harder, as heat increases so does a plants H2O requirements so obviously increased heat and decreased water availabity would make farming harder, how do we increase yields if plants wilt and die, shouty?

I threw in the question asking if Nitrogen, Potassium and Phosphorus were unavailable to the plants would increased CO2 levels still result in increased yields, just to see if you had any idea about plant biology or if it was as I suspected, that you had no idea and were just doggedly sticking to your guns because it fits in with your climate change skepticism, turned out I suspected correctly.

It has been amusing how you have refused to let this go while simply posting the same post over and over again, like an old drunk in a pub somewhere who has spent the last 3 hours arguing some unimportant point with a bloke he's never met, telling everyone that he 'told him' because the other bloke got tired of it and went home.

Well this has reinforced something I had already learnt, you are incapable of looking at anything from outside the prism of your political opinions.   

hahaha,

So you didn't look at the scientific data because you are a biased, indoctrinated, screaming "denier" who only consumes what Waleed decides to lie about ... that's ok, as I said, I actually read what you post ... one of us will become more informed ...

This is a ridiculous discussion. Increasing CO2 levels will increasecrop yields (all other things being equal). A squillion references say as much. Full stop.

Second Chance wrote: Drowned on a Pacific atoll apparently.

       That's funny actually...    I only just got to read it SC.



Edited by horlicks - 08 Feb 2020 at 6:10pm

Dr E wrote: ... are you sure oneone??? It wasn't a squillion rightard conspiracies designed to make Afros look like a brain dead troll and surreptitiously planted in reputable scientific reference material ... was it???

Settle down shouty, all I said was the guy who wrote your second link wrote it subjectively, if he couldn't shape data to fit his opinion I doubt he bothers trying to write that, at least the first article was written objectively.

I'm not sure why your suggesting I am saying increased CO2 levels will be bad for plants, I've not said that. I have consistently said that if traditional farming areas become hotter and drier as climate scientists suggest then it will make it harder to produce crops.

NSW Bushfires are over. Time to shut this thread down. We have cyclones & flash flooding to go to 

Second Chance wrote: Hope people weren't upset about my "Drowned on a Pacific atoll apparently" comment. Clearly the scientist didn't.  Mine was just a risible comment underscoring global warming and rising sea levels.

   It was perfectly placed & should draw attention to the failure of the so called "Science " of Climate change predicting .

   They have failed on every call for 50 years.