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Tlazolteotl
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What's the story? Something about a man behind a wall it says in the paper. Was he behind a glory hole and didn't see the bloke's face at all?
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Tlazolteotl
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“Bit hard to put the full story into words but I was broke and doing
some modelling, then I got talked into doing a porno. Unknown to me but
it turned out they put a bloke on the other side of the wall."
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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max manewer
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I don't think I want to read the detail.
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acacia alba
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Not need to know information
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animals before people.
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Passing Through
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Jarryd Hayne case sent to retrial in March after the Crown decided to pursue a prosecution.
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Tlazolteotl
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Must have been plenty of jurors who found him guilty and DPP thinks they are on a winner. Although DPP's judgement is often screwy. What about that Quinn woman on a murder charge thrown out last week? What a joke. I wonder which DPP knucklehead thought that was a goer.
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djebel
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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Judge Noman’s directions came after the summing up of both parties in the case, during which Mr de Belin’s barrister David Campbell SC said the woman was seen on CCTV footage “laughing her head off” and “enjoying herself” as she walked with the pair after the alleged incident.
‘Trauma may affect people differently’: Jury retires to consider de Belin verdictTrauma may affect people differently, a judge has warned a jury who have retired to assess the evidence of a woman who claims she was raped by footballers Jack de Belin and Callan Sinclair. NSW District Court judge Nicole Noman told the jury that if the woman did not act in a way they would expect a person to behave after being sexually assaulted, then that did not necessarily mean she was unreliable. “People may not remember all the details of an allegation, or may not describe an allegation of a sexual offense in the same way each time,” Judge Noman said in providing legal directions at the end of the two-and-a-half week retrial of the pair at the Downing Centre in Sydney. “Trauma may affect people differently, including affecting how they recall events. Guided by these observations, it is incumbent that you decide whether or not any difference in the complainant’s account is important in assessing her truthfulness and reliability.” Judge Noman’s directions came after the summing up of both parties in the case, during which Mr de Belin’s barrister David Campbell SC said the woman was seen on CCTV footage “laughing her head off” and “enjoying herself” as she walked with the pair after the alleged incident. Mr de Belin, an NRL player with St George Illawarra, and Mr Sinclair, of the Shellharbour Sharks, have pleaded not guilty to five counts each of aggravated sexual assault for the alleged attack on the woman, then aged 19, at a North Wollongong unit in the early hours of December 9, 2018. The pair met her several hours earlier at the Mr Crown nightclub in Wollongong during a Santa-themed pub crawl. Judge Noman urged the jury to review the CCTV to determine for themselves the conduct of the woman at any particular moment: “It is for you, and not witnesses to determine what can be seen on the images.” She also emphasised the woman was the only witness during the trial to give evidence relevant to the acts alleged in the charges against the pair. “The complainant said it happened when she was alone with both accused. Both accused challenged that any sexual act was not consensual,” she said. “You should carefully consider the complainant’s evidence because, unless you are satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the complainant is both an honest and accurate witness, you cannot find the accused guilty.” Crown prosecutor David Scully in his closing arguments on Thursday said Mr de Belin “hoped” and “expected” sex with the woman would occur, and “when the complainant didn’t want it, he didn’t take no for an answer”. He said Mr de Belin was “leading the way on that night and leading the way in that bedroom” and Mr Sinclair “made the wrong choice to join in”. The jury has begun deliberating to consider its verdict. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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Jury has been out for 3 days.
What do we make of that ?
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reductio ad absurdum
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Tlazolteotl
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Most likely 1 recalcitrant.
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jujuno
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there's always one person who thinks it's the girl's fault.
Max M might be on the jury and that's why he's not on here... |
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Tlazolteotl
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Although it would need to be 2 recalcitrants to deadlock a jury in NSW.
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rusty nails
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The jury pool was Wollongong
That’s got to be good for the accused
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Carioca
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acacia alba
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And yeah. The Gong. Stick up for the locals.
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animals before people.
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Passing Through
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Jarryd Hayne to be sentenced at 2:30 today.
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djebel
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Nervous 33 plus minutes for him ahead...
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reductio ad absurdum
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jujuno
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He's damn lucky it wasn't longer...
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jujuno
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His supporters spat at the woman as she left the court. I'd charge them with assault, as well. I once took a guy to court because he spat in my face. (he got six months probation)
Enough is enough. If he hadn't managed to pay off the American victim, perhaps this girl might not have to go through her hell. |
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jujuno
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just to clarify my post...I was waiting at a bus stop when a middle age guy came next to me and lit up a cigarette. I politely asked him to move away, as I am asthmatic and breathing in smoke triggers it. He replied by spitting at me...a very big spit. Unlucky for him, we were near the local police station and two policemen on their lunch-break witnessed the incident. They arrested him and asked if I would press charges...which I did. He not only got the probation, he was hit with a $500 fine. Hope he enjoyed his expensive cigarette...
So tired of people who think they are above the law... |
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oneonesit
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Only gave me 3mths to pay it as well
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Refer ALP Election Promises
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horlicks
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Now maybe spitting at another poster could be a major suspension Edited by horlicks - 06 May 2021 at 9:43pm |
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ExceedAndExcel
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Agree. It’s revolting behaviour. Are we really surprised that his supporters would be grubs though? The guy is a scum bag through and through.
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The jury were unanimous on one count but no indication which way it went.
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The jury has not been able to reach a unanimous verdict despite extra time. The judge says she will now contemplate a majority verdict.
11-1 would only be accepted in this case.
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New note from Jack de Belin's jury. It says each juror is 'firm and resolute' in their verdicts and it is 'not possible' they will reach unanimous decisions on the remaining 5 charges
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