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    Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 5:35pm
This colt won the Up and Coming Stakes by panels today and is probably early favorite for the Golden Rose.  By Brazen Beau from the unraced Up In Lights by O'Reilly.  Nice enough female family but hardly outstanding.

When he was offered for sale the dam had three progeny of racing age, for just one placegetter which remains a maiden.  The other two haven't won either.  Those three brought $47,500, P/I and $65,000 as yearlings.  

And what do you know, the colt is knocked down for $800,000!  He must certainly have been a truly magnificent type given what's described above.


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I remember watching that sale, Melb Premier. He was about Lot 5 and the little ex jockey bloke from Orbis just kept bidding. Dunno who the underbidder was. The Orbis bloke and many others said it was the standout, an absolute cracker.

Brazen Beau throws some crackers of yearlings. This one even better on the track than in the salering. He is going well Brazen Beau. Branders Rule was a top run in the Vain Stakes too.
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NORTH PACIFIC (AUS)Brown colt 2017 
Brazen Beau
Brown 2011
I Am Invincible
Bay 2004
Invincible Spirit
Bay 1997
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Foreign Courier
1977
1979
7-a
A4
Rafha
Bay 1987
Kris
Eljazzi
1976
1981
2-o
7-a
Cannarelle
Bay 1998
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass
1970
1975
7-a
14>
Countess Pedrille
Bay 1994
Zoffany
Sister Pedrille
1980
1980
1-n
1-n
Sansadee
Black 2000
Snaadee
Bay or brown 1987
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Somfas
Bay or brown 1978
What a Pleasure
Ciboulette
1965
1961
5-f
4-g
Sansapa
Black 1988
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Nearctic Answer
Bay or brown 1973
Nearctic
Prize Answer
1954
1965
14-c
4-g
Up in Lights
Bay 2009
O'Reilly
Brown 1993
Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983
Try My Best
Bay 1975
Northern Dancer
Sex Appeal
1961
1970
2-d
8-f
Mill Princess
Bay 1977
Mill Reef
Irish Lass
1968
1962
22-d
8-c
Courtza
Bay 1986
Pompeii Court
Bay 1977
Tell
Port Damascus
1966
1971
2-f
1-p
Hunza
Brown 1970
Pakistan
Chatty Lady
1958
1961
6-d
13-b
Love the Limelight
Brown 2000
Octagonal
Brown 1992
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Lady Giselle
1971
1982
6-e
16-c
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Klairessa
1963
1969
3-o
9-c
Jacqwin
Brown 1993
Bluebird
Bay 1984
Storm Bird
Ivory Dawn
1978
1978
4-j
9-b
Nuwirah
Brown 1987
Pleasant Colony
Secretarial Queen
1978
1977
5-a
6-f
 Ancestor duplications:Danzig5m,4m x Bletchingly5m,4f x Northern Dancer5m x 5m




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Brown filly 1987 
Pleasant Colony
Bay or brown 1978
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Bay 1952
Tenerani
Bay 1944
Bellini
Tofanella
1937
1931
2-d
6-d
Romanella
Chestnut 1943
El Greco
Barbara Burrini
1934
1937
14-a
4-l
Flower Bowl
Bay 1952
Alibhai
Chestnut 1938
Hyperion
Teresina
1930
1920
6-e
6-d
Flower Bed
Bay 1946
Beau Pere
Boudoir
1927
1938
3-e
4-d
Sun Colony
Bay 1968
Sunrise Flight
Bay or brown 1959
Double Jay
Brown 1944
Balladier
Broomshot
1932
1926
3-j
14-a
Misty Morn
Bay 1952
Princequillo
Grey Flight
1940
1945
1-b
5-f
Colonia
Bay 1959
Cockrullah
Brown 1951
Nasrullah
Summerleaze
1940
1945
9-c
2-f
Nalga
Bay 1952
Guatan
Nagoya
1941
1941
20>
5-a
Secretarial Queen
Bay or brown 1977
Secretariat
Chestnut 1970
Bold Ruler
Bay 1954
Nasrullah
Bay 1940
Nearco
Mumtaz Begum
1935
1932
4-r
9-c
Miss Disco
Bay 1944
Discovery
Outdone
1931
1936
23-b
8-d
Somethingroyal
Bay 1952
Princequillo
Bay 1940
Prince Rose
Cosquilla
1928
1933
10-c
1-b
Imperatrice
Bay 1938
Caruso
Cinquepace
1927
1934
2-o
2-s
Nicoma
Bay or brown 1964
Nashua
Bay 1952
Nasrullah
Bay 1940
Nearco
Mumtaz Begum
1935
1932
4-r
9-c
Segula
Bay or brown 1942
Johnstown
Sekhmet
1936
1929
17-b
3-m
Hasty Flirt
Brown 1958
Hasty Road
Bay 1951
Roman
Traffic Court
1937
1938
20-a
3-n
Chantress
Chestnut 1939
Hyperion
Surbine
1930
1924
6-e
6-f
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Did not look like $800,000 worth today
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Is H Field taking the piss with today's press release( It Is April 1) re North Pacific
$22K for a very average mudder.
Measure him not by who beat him but by who he beat. That is quite a pedestrian group

The current crop of early 3YO retirees are certainly a mob of suspect cream puffs. Sale companies & some studs should be ashamed of themseves. Especially in the future when they attempt to extoll the virtues of such a disparate mob of future stallions

Take note of the major studs who aren't indulging in the current overhyped retirement marketting
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They can be ashamed of themselves but it is the stupid broodmare owners who are the fools. 




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Originally posted by Glencoe Glencoe wrote:

Is H Field taking the piss with today's press release( It Is April 1) re North Pacific
$22K for a very average mudder.
Measure him not by who beat him but by who he beat. That is quite a pedestrian group

The current crop of early 3YO retirees are certainly a mob of suspect cream puffs. Sale companies & some studs should be ashamed of themseves. Especially in the future when they attempt to extoll the virtues of such a disparate mob of future stallions

Take note of the major studs who aren't indulging in the current overhyped retirement marketting


I am a Newgate fan but the whole media release/video/announcement felt forced. Like Orbis had set the fee and then demanded that Newgate do the marketing to justify. If you need to parade him at the Easter sales to justify the $20K on type, then you're already in trouble.

He is a belter of a type but as was rightly pointed out by SC at the time he sold, it's scarcely a stallions pedigree. That coupled with BB being patchy and this three year old crop being decidedly dodgy, he does look overpriced.
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You got it in one Robbo.
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Robbo I also felt that the agenda may not have been set by Newgate
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Begs the question then as to who sets the financial agenda
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Originally posted by robbo robbo wrote:

 
He is a belter of a type but as was rightly pointed out by SC at the time he sold, it's scarcely a stallions pedigree. That coupled with BB being patchy and this three year old crop being decidedly dodgy, he does look overpriced.

He's a belter of a type but he's not got a stallions pedigree. I mean, he's by Iglesia and he only won the Todman beating a small field and he never won another race after that..... 
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The difference being that Written Tycoon kicked off his career at $6,600 and noms were being given away for free to give him a chance. I’m not begrudging North Pacific having his chance at stud, I’m quibbling with the fee.
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C'mon Byron for somebody who makes a living out of horse pedigrees surely your not going to overlook what W. T's. female lines brought to the table that suited so many Oz mares

Even allowing for the success of O'reilly not sure that N.P's. female antecedents will be as complementary
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Not saying he won't sire winners.
His physique & marketing will give him a good start but the duration of time will how where he fits
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Glencoe to be fair to North Pacific, he's from the female family of Keeper.  While that one wasn't a Centaine or Zabeel, he was a solid, useful sire of quality runners.  Kind of like the Al Maher or Artie Schiller of the central Waikato.  It's good to see that kind of stallion production in a family.

Between his dam line, the comments I made previously about Invincible Spirit line in NZ, and the fact that his wins/best runs were on bog tracks, I still think he'd be better off standing in NZ.
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Originally posted by Kimberley Mine Kimberley Mine wrote:

Glencoe to be fair to North Pacific, he's from the female family of Keeper.  While that one wasn't a Centaine or Zabeel, he was a solid, useful sire of quality runners.  Kind of like the Al Maher or Artie Schiller of the central Waikato.  It's good to see that kind of stallion production in a family.

Between his dam line, the comments I made previously about Invincible Spirit line in NZ, and the fact that his wins/best runs were on bog tracks, I still think he'd be better off standing in NZ.

Also, the family of Amarelinha....
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