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Carioca
Champion Joined: 13 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 21830 |
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What an out of character run, perhaps all is not well, some deep thinking needed on what appeared a promising spring campaign.
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Bonfield
Champion Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Status: Offline Points: 10291 |
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I read/heard that he had a blood irregularity and a temperature before scratching recently. May not have recovered from a virus?
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Shawy38
Champion Joined: 13 Jun 2015 Status: Offline Points: 17413 |
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G Begg mentioned pre race he had a high white blood count
Recovered fairly quickly but was concerned re race fitness going into yesterday Said he would be better for the run
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Carioca
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Interesting to see to see how this horse performs today after minor hiccup, I'm sure he wouldn't be running if he wasn't pleasing his trainer, rail out 10 mts, drawn to box seat with some old warriors to beat and the Princess, top 3 I'll be happy, bonus if he lobs.
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Shawy38
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Gee that was a good win
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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Nice win.
Frustrating to hear the trainer say he might drop him back to the mile.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Lopartega
Yearling Joined: 31 Dec 2015 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 215 |
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He was getting stronger the further that race went. You'd think 12f would be ideal
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Jamal
Champion Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8684 |
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Not even nominated for the Caulfield Cup
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Carioca
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A rather emotional response from the trainer today, methinks there has been some behind the scenes " finger pointing" it happens and their out there the knockers, this is the best way to answer them, I agree with all , it was a nice win and the 2nd horse was primed right up today, I'm sure wherever he's placed it will be to give him the best chance.
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Shawy38
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would’ve had Buckley’s on Saturday anyway, smart decision to not pay the final declaration fee
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Carioca
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I'm pretty sure the pen went through that idea after the poor 2nd up run a month ago Jamal, along with poor blood report, well documented , a 96 rater all had to fall into place , didn't happen.
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TJMitchell
Champion Joined: 29 Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 16917 |
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And that sucks cause it literally just fell into place
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Time is a flat circle
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Jamal
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Yeah I'm not sure who the last 96 rated horse (handicap rating) was to win the Caulfield Cup
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Gay3
Moderator Group Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Miners Rest Status: Offline Points: 52012 |
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Begg said he'll freshen & head for the mile Cantala, hinting at longer races next prep as still very immature.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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TJMitchell
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Boom Time was 102 when he won. Nonconformist would've been 100 with today's win but with the interrupted prep you can understand why he was pulled out prior.
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Time is a flat circle
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Jamal
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Ok, interesting. Thanks for that info re: handicap ratings. Whilst Timeform ratings are different (method wise) to Australian handicap ratings, Boom Time was rated 115 heading into the Caulfield Cup. He was then rated 117 (Timeform) for winning the Caulfield Cup.
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Carioca
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Hope he can run home nicely today , trial was passable , Best of Days is well fancied , if there's a blowout , Miss Siska .
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Carioca
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Not quite the horse I thought he would make , haven't thrown the bath water out yet .
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TJMitchell
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Did you put that Tri on C?
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Time is a flat circle
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Carioca
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Tj I'm a twice a year better mate , just love to keep my eye in , but no .
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TJMitchell
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Nice work either way
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Time is a flat circle
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Lord Hybrow
Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6683 |
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He’s a nice horse who will win races, but not at G1 level.
Drop him back to something like an G3 Easter Cup next month would be more suitable.
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Carioca
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Encouraging run today and over a journey is his forte imo. a weak handicap or bush cup could be suitabl , looks a nice horse the winner .
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45811 |
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Our valued German member Ticino will be very pleased to see that the winner is by Maxios, a son of the great German sire Monsun (Melbourne Cup winners Almandin, Fiorente and Protectionist etc).
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Magnolian Khan
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He’s on his way this horse.
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Bonjour
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Great ride by young Childs, eased out at the 700 and didn't go until he had to. I'm pretty sure his old man rode his first winner in Oz for us, this young bloke is as good as the old block at the same age.
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Lord Hybrow
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Really honest performer this guy. Can he win a Caulfield Cup?
I’m not sure he can. Others thoughts on this?
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Shawy38
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Gotta be in it, to win it. And this is the year to do it.
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Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing
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Second Chance
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Correct on both counts Shawy, however whilst above average believe he needs to improve.
Have Incentivise, Colette, Hungry Heart and Tralee Rose ahead of him FWIW.
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Shawy38
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Wowzers.
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Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing
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