Newgate Deep Field & Stallion Roster 2025

What introductory price people?

Bullgelati 

Piussance de Lune is standing for $11,000 but proved himself sound enough to have 25+ starts over a few seasons at a very good level.

I'm with the hare on this one.

djebel wrote: Piussance de Lune is standing for $11,000 but proved himself sound enough to have 25+ starts over a few seasons at a very good level. Deep Field by comparison is no better than cheap speed with no real prospect of being a classic sire and was obviously unsound. Whilst he is bound to be around a similar price as PDL he should be a quarter the price.

I don't know of any Group 2 winners standing at Stud for 2.5k

Aurelius wrote: djebel wrote: Piussance de Lune is standing for $11,000 but proved himself sound enough to have 25+ starts over a few seasons at a very good level. Deep Field by comparison is no better than cheap speed with no real prospect of being a classic sire and was obviously unsound. Whilst he is bound to be around a similar price as PDL he should be a quarter the price. I don't know of any Group 2 winners standing at Stud for 2.5k

Clanga

whitt0 wrote: Red Hare wrote: Grp 2 Hcp winner, not sighted until the 11th hour of his 3yo year... I don't know what the market rate for that is, but I would give him a bonuses for  - being a full brother to the Guineas winner, - the short supply of Northern Meteor stallions, - the Eight Carat family In 2004, Lonhro hit the arket at $60k. A year later, Niello launched at $16,500. That being the case, I'd like to think Deep Field is priced at no more than 30% of STW, who has the $77k of Pierro, $66k of All Too Hard and $44k of Zoustar as recent benchmarks.... of which he is below IMO. That would, to my fair reasoning, put him in the $13,750 range that Eurozone launched at. I agree - but it is $20k

He's a breed to sell prospect.  The unfounded hype looks like transferring to his stud fee.  No doubt that hype will also be flowing when his first crop hit the sale ring.  

BB will be 44.

Same surname as the farm owner, half brothers?

cheers biggles. 

2nd chance... if he wont be commercial early on he never will be...

Second Chance wrote: He may well succeed, but simply can't see him being overly commercial early on.   Depending on the quality of his mares he might get 4 or 5 into Easter, maybe 10 at Melb Prem and 15 at MM which are the only sales where you stand a chance of turning a regular profit above costs of about $40k to get there.   Which means there'll be 80-100 or so in each of the first three years that'll either be sold at a loss or retained to race at breeder's risk.   However good luck and good fortune to those who consider him the real deal.

THE SCAM

The top 10 yearlings will be bought by a stallion owner, that's called "marketing". They will be shared among "dummy" clients, who don't know what's going on. Those top 10 yearlings will be either owned by the stud who stands the stallion (that's called a loyalty bonus) OR they are foal shares with the stallion owner. Free publicity with 7 times more convincing power than a paid "Ad", all for the price of "half commission" at the sales. Works every time, dummys keep jumping off the cliff.

200 mares covered, maximum 50 sell at a profit. Dumb breeder races the rest, and loses $1000s or sells and loses $1000s