Go to Villagebet.com.au for free horse racing tips - Click here now
Forum Home Forum Home > Horse Racing - Public Forums > Racing Forum
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Neptunes Choice
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Thoroughbred Village Home Page. For village news, follow @TBVillage on Twitter. For horseracing tips, follow @Villagebet on Twitter. To contact the Mayor by email: Click Here.

Neptunes Choice
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Neptunes Choice
    Posted: 19 Dec 2019 at 11:21am
NEPTUNE'S CHOICE (AUS)Bay colt 2016 
Kingman
Bay 2011		Invincible Spirit
Bay 1997		Green Desert
Bay 1983		Danzig
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom		1961
1968		2-d
7-a
Foreign Courier
Bay 1979		Sir Ivor
Courtly Dee		1965
1968		8-g
A4
Rafha
Bay 1987		Kris
Chestnut 1976		Sharpen Up
Doubly Sure		1969
1971		5-i
2-o
Eljazzi
Bay 1981		Artaius
Border Bounty		1974
1965		14-c
7-a
Zenda
Bay 1999		Zamindar
Bay 1994		Gone West
Bay 1984		Mr Prospector
Secrettame		1970
1978		13-c
2-f
Zaizafon
Chestnut 1982		The Minstrel
Mofida		1974
1974		8-f
9-e
Hope
Bay 1991		Dancing Brave
Bay 1983		Lyphard
Navajo Princess		1969
1974		17-b
3-d
Bahamian
Chestnut 1985		Mill Reef
Sorbus		1968
1975		22-d
19>
Aiden Sea
Bay 2010		Danehill Dancer
Bay 1993		Danehill
Bay 1986		Danzig
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom		1961
1968		2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981		His Majesty
Spring Adieu		1968
1974		4-d
2-d
Mira Adonde
Bay or brown 1986		Sharpen Up
Chestnut 1969		Atan
Rocchetta		1961
1961		2-f
5-i
Lettre d'Amour
Grey 1979		Caro
Lianga		1967
1971		3-o
22-b
Airline
Bay or brown 1997		Woodman
Chestnut 1983		Mr Prospector
Bay 1970		Raise a Native
Gold Digger		1961
1962		8-f
13-c
Playmate
Chestnut 1975		Buckpasser
Intriguing		1963
1964		1-s
1-s
Action Francaise
Bay or brown 1985		Nureyev
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Special		1961
1969		2-d
5-h
Allez France
Bay 1970		Sea-Bird
Priceless Gem		1962
1963		2-n
1-s
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m,5m Danzig4m x 4m Sharpen Up5m x 4f 
  Mr Prospector5m x 4m
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Dec 2019 at 11:22am
Queensland Derby winner.
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
Lord Hybrow View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jul 2015
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 6667 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lord Hybrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Dec 2019 at 11:39am
He’s in good hands with Brian Smith.   I don’t follow Brisbane racing that closely but will keep an eye on how this colt progresses.
Back to Top
robbo View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 1573 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote robbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Dec 2019 at 12:52pm
Cracking restaurant.
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 11:41pm
Why the kiss did they drop him back to 1400m ?

Seriously, Our horses are about 20 lengths superior to their trainers.
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
Lord Hybrow View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jul 2015
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 6667 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lord Hybrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jan 2020 at 9:03am
Scratched from Thursday at Doomben & from Caloundra yesterday.

But he has accepted for a 1600m Class 1 event at Caloundra tomorrow. I think I’ll recoup my losses from last start & have a go at him again.
Back to Top
Shrunk in the Wash View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 25 Mar 2016
Status: Offline
Points: 9890 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shrunk in the Wash Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jan 2020 at 10:23am
I see the name Neptune and my thoughts always turn to the first horse I ever backed with cash.

Randwick, early 70s. Neptune’s Kingdom 💖
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 4:29pm
A little bit of support for him but I can not help but think he will be running on at the end looking for 2000m+.

He was looking for 2000m before his last start 1400m contest,
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 4:35pm
The way he is being backed, If he sprints like a gazelle at the end of this trip I can only assume he was dead last start. 
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 4:41pm
Confused 

Did Brian Smith have Balmerino his whole career ? 
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
Second Chance View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Status: Online
Points: 45739 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Second Chance Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 4:48pm
Likely inscription on djebel's tombstone: "IT WAS THE TRAINER'S FAULT"  Tongue
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 4:50pm
LOL
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 4:52pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Likely inscription on djebel's tombstone: "IT WAS THE TRAINER'S FAULT"  Tongue

Everybody blames the horses and or the jockeys. Our modern day trainer is deplorable. They are head scratches. It has got me kissed what they are seeing and doing with these horses.
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
Carioca View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 13 Nov 2015
Status: Online
Points: 21822 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carioca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 8:52pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Likely inscription on djebel's tombstone: "IT WAS THE TRAINER'S FAULT"  Tongue


Everybody blames the horses and or the jockeys. Our modern day trainer is deplorable. They are head scratches. It has got me kissed what they are seeing and doing with these horses.



Why don't you start up a Trainer's Academy , but first you must know how to put a bridle on.
Back to Top
Sister Dot View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 25 Nov 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 4958 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Sister Dot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 2020 at 8:46am
Carioca, funny as that was 😁, there is very little written data on how to train a racehorse. I searched a few years ago and came up with very little. An American book about training off track and a great newish scientific based 2 yr old program, which apparently was very successful, but disappeared from print. Some Tesio stuff. It’s very much a game where you have to learn on the job, starting at the bottom or be born into it and follow in the old mans footsteps?
A long hard grind, to be sure, but quite difficult for up and comers to get their hands on the secrets of success, not only for winning but for the welfare and longevity of the horse as well?
It’s an industry where people want to keep their expertise close to their chest, and newbies need to operate to an extent on trial and error?
Trainers hold both human and horses lives in their hands, they really need to have a very solid grounding, a thirst for more knowledge, and be open to positive change and sourcing of the latest data regarding their craft. And in that regard Djebel is spot on, some are a lot more astute than others .
It’s a very long and winding road, starting with the mare and stallion match, rearing of the progeny, choosing a trainer, and hoping it all culminates in being first to arrive at our longed for destination.
One thing we are not, and that’s pessimists 😂
“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
Back to Top
Carioca View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 13 Nov 2015
Status: Online
Points: 21822 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carioca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 2020 at 11:13am
Nice reply Sister Dot and you have covered a fair bit of ground , but I can only talk from my experience from my very start, you have to roll your sleeves up and get your hands dirty , keep your eyes and ears open and absorb what's around you hard for a teenager I know ( been there lol) but if your fair dinkum and committed in what you have in mind your a chance, the inescapable fact about racing is your dealing with livestock, you might have them one day and due to circumstances beyond your control their " gone o/ night, there is only one way , the practical way , not theoretically, in all walks of life some strive to be the best , some succeed , and there's the " also rans", i'll leave you with something that was said by the man who broke Tommy Smiths stranglehold on the trainers prem. with the help of some very wealthy patrons , "The biggest mistake I made in racing was I only ever worked for one trainer, and learnt nothing" he was referring to Jack Denham, luckily he had a background with quart/ horses in Queensland, did the bloke walk round with his eyes shut? I think he said that when the fire in the belly went out a number of years later, work, discipline, an eye for a horse , knowing how to feed , a good client and common sense your two thirds on your way , ps. marry a horse women too , as they understand the crap you have to put up with , and work for a Good trainer.
Back to Top
Sister Dot View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 25 Nov 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 4958 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sister Dot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 2020 at 12:02pm
Brian Mayfield-Smith?
“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
Back to Top
Carioca View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 13 Nov 2015
Status: Online
Points: 21822 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carioca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 2020 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by Sister Dot Sister Dot wrote:

Brian Mayfield-Smith?

Yep.
Back to Top
Lord Hybrow View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jul 2015
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 6667 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lord Hybrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 6:27pm
Probably erred by dropping him back to 1400m then going back to 1600m.

There’s a perfect 1800m C1 at Caloundra on Sunday that would have been perfect for him. But hopefully Brian Smith finds a suitable race for him next time.
Back to Top
Carioca View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 13 Nov 2015
Status: Online
Points: 21822 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carioca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 7:34pm
This horse had 5 trials for Waller and was pathetic, to my way of thinking if they have that many before having their first start there's a whale in the bay, 1 race start for Waller at new castle , last in a field of 12, for Brian Smith to win a maiden in town with this horse imo he's a genius , he's a smart cookie been round a long time and Yes he did train Balmerino, he'll get the best out of him but ability wise , it's not far in.
Back to Top
Lord Hybrow View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jul 2015
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 6667 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lord Hybrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2020 at 8:14pm
Jumps a few grades but he’s up to 1800m at Eagle Farm on Saturday.

Worth a nibble at 15/1
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2020 at 9:12pm
Nearly a month between runs up in distance. 👏👍
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 2020 at 4:08pm
I am giving up on him.

He'll be gelded and never heard of again.
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2020 at 3:40pm
Been a little bit of money for him this arvo.
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2020 at 3:51pm
He is not putting in. 
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
Carioca View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 13 Nov 2015
Status: Online
Points: 21822 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carioca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2020 at 4:36pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

He is not putting in. 

Coulda told you that.
Back to Top
Second Chance View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Status: Online
Points: 45739 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Second Chance Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2020 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

He is not putting in. 

Coulda told you that.

And he'll never ever be putting it in.
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2020 at 11:22pm
Up to 2240m tomorrow

Maybe that is the answer £
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
Lord Hybrow View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jul 2015
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 6667 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lord Hybrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2020 at 12:44am
I’ve managed to avoid him at his last 2 starts. So I might jump back on tomorrow at the 2240m trip.
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 53960 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2020 at 1:47am
2/1, I just can not go near that price Cry
reductio ad absurdum
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.05
Copyright ©2001-2022 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.172 seconds.