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Posted: 15 Jan 2026 at 8:56pm |
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can I ask peoples thoughts on lot 351. I loved hiyaam and this filly is by Snitzel. Went to Bennett racing for 400000
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Posted: 15 Jan 2026 at 10:15pm |
Not trying to hog the discussion Marble, so i hope ya don't mind my input, which is no better than any others opinions which are valued as well, as everyone has one, As I said to SC, I dont usually do the girl in the catalogues unless we are after a Broodie, but anyway, here's my take on a very nice filly with a heap of scope. Strong sprint and miler influences from Snitzel are balanced
by stamina and class from Hiyaam (by High Chaparral). The dosage profile
favours distances of 1200m to 1600m, with some capacity to stretch to 2000m.
The Pedigree Profile figures reflect a well-rounded athlete, suggesting both speed and
resilience. The index value indicates a bias towards speed, yet not at the
expense of versatility. This filly is well suited to metropolitan and group
company, with genuine black-type potential and a credible chance of progressing
to G1 level, particularly at a mile. Synopsis of Findings Lot 351 presents an appealing mix of speed and stamina,
courtesy of her sire Snitzel and her Group One-winning dam Hiyaam. The Vuillier
Dosage reveals a strong inclination towards sprint and mile distances,
supported by the Pedigree Profile which shows a balance between precocity and
staying power. The index figure of suggests
optimum performance between 1200m and 1600m, with the potential to handle up to
2000m if conditions suit. This filly’s pedigree and analytical profile indicate
suitability for group-level racing, including G1 contests, especially at a
mile. She rates an 8 out of 10 overall, representing a prime opportunity for
buyers seeking a filly with both speed and the class to compete at the highest
levels.
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marble
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 8:21am |
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thanks very much Take2 . She's a classy filly with heaps of scope. If handled patiently I think she could be very good
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 10:25am |
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 11:02am |
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It's not the outside but the inside where the motor comes from. She still made $300,000 so must of walked well or something!
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 3:04pm |
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I'm not good at picking Zoustars anyway but I do like 815 but then I picked Aristia from the 2nd dam and have had some pretty good winners from this female line.
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 4:57pm |
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Anyone got a comment on the Hitotsu yearlings. They do not seem to be selling that well but I think a few look quite good. Or is it simply that buyers think they might take time?
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Second Chance
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 5:20pm |
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Breeder, maybe it's just not the sale for a bloke like him. Though that said I haven't looked up the pedigrees of those offered so far.
However did look up Lot 34, a half to last year's VRC Oaks placegetter After Summer. Perhaps somewhat immature and upright in the pasterns however reckon she was still a very nice buy at $200k.
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 5:44pm |
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I've marked lot 8 to follow out of the Black Swan female line and the dam not a great producer so it's just hoping that the good blood comes through finally. $70K to M Dunn so hopefully will get a chance.
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 5:44pm |
dissapointed that the hitotsu from my mare's sis minamya lot 542 never fronted, i know theres a quiet rap on them from people that have them
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Second Chance
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 5:58pm |
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She went through the ring mate. On the small side and despite her pedigree physically presented more like a sprinter/miler than the staying type you'd expect.
And as Breeder suggested as a generality, $100k was rather less than what you'd expect given the strength of her pedigree.
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Glencoe
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 6:56pm |
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I agree with you Breeder. Probably the wrong sale though?
I did partiularly like Lot 2 Passed In Another stallion that really impressed me with his types IN THE CONGO Also why has the market seemed to drop St Marks Bas
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Second Chance
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 7:01pm |
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Do you mind doing a favour for a mate by providing a summary for Lot 964 please.
Lot 964 rates 7/10.
Sells for $400k.
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 7:18pm |
without running HIM through, on initial figures I had it pegged as you said (sprinter miler) with the dosage, profile and index all saying the same, with a solid closing index, Portelli has got it, knows the fam, as it's 1/2 is Verona Rose, and i dont think she is all that big, His Dam Minamya has much the same dosage and profile (prob through Makfi and Dubawi influence) Mandistana much stouter with enough speed to win @ 2 (late) and competitive group company to 2400m
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 7:37pm |
Good to see you today SC. You got home quick? No more speeding fines? 😇
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 7:46pm |
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Glencoe. Like you I really liked lot 2. If I had the money I would happily pay the reserve and be prepared to be patient.
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 7:49pm |
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Had Cheryl do the driving through the danger zone on the way up. Clear road ahead and she was exceeding the speed limit.
At one point and with prior knowledge suggested that about 15 or so kms ahead there'll almost certainly be a disguised vehicle parked on the right side verge, and indeed there was. So she pulled back from 110 to 100 when with keen long-sight I pointed the vehicle out, she was home free, and gave me a big thumbs up. ![]() PS: still can't find the frigging cruise control.
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Posted: 16 Jan 2026 at 9:02pm |
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usually
where it says, cruise control
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Posted: 17 Jan 2026 at 7:27am |
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Pedigree Analysis and G1
Potential Assessment: 2026 Magic Millions Gold Coast Sale This analysis evaluates the pedigrees of selected
lots from the last Day of 2026 Magic Millions Gold Coast sale, and is my
opinion, based by using Vuillier Dosage, Pedigree profiles, and Pedigree Index
data for each horse, sire, and dam. Each lot is ranked by Group potential,
factoring in optimum race distances and Group potential ratings drawn from the
provided reference tables. The summary table below presents a structured
comparison, followed by key observations on pedigree trends and standouts. This
analysis, ranks each lot by actual pedigree presences in the pedigree
grid, and not always on produce records. Always do the visuals, and get any
associated veterinary information
LOT
OPTIMUM DIST
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Posted: 17 Jan 2026 at 11:57am |
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I’ve added three to my little stable with MRH this morning
Lot 21 Super Seth / Acting Colt to Mick Price/Michael Kent Share cost $129 for 0.01% Lot 314 Stay Inside / Giulia Colt to Bjorn Baker. Share cost $139 for 0.01% Lot 500 Anamoe / Luqyaa Colt to Michael Freedman. Share cost $199 for 0.01%
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Posted: 17 Jan 2026 at 9:26pm |
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Nice additions to ‘shawy’s star stable’ - BOL and keep us updated please
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Posted: 17 Jan 2026 at 9:26pm |
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Posted: 17 Jan 2026 at 10:06pm |
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Nothing says cruise control on ours. You have to find a flat silver button on the side column and flick thru about 10 options to find CC. Or read the on line manual. Only taken me approx 4 years to work it out
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Glencoe
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Posted: 17 Jan 2026 at 11:23pm |
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Hello Take 2
I've only ever had a passing interest in your work or more a cursory glance HOWEVER I've just noticed your very important comment "always do the visuals" For me the "eye-ometer" is the most important tool in yearling selection & a compulsory first step. Granted it takes many years experience to acquire an eye-ometer but mine has never let me down. Another city winning yearling sale purchase today. Systems/statistics/graphs/pedigree analysis or whatever only become useful after "the grain is sorted from the chaff" However in saying all of the above I do appreciate your work & input to this forum. I wish there were more like you. There were some very good contributors on the "Irish Bloodstock Forum" but this site seems to have disappeared. So in conclusion keep up the good work
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 12:26pm |
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rom Glencoe " I've only ever had a passing interest in your
work or more a cursory glance", HOWEVER
I've just noticed your very important comment "always do the
visuals" Thanks for the encouragement Glencoe, what I do is based on the
Aga Khan /JJ Vuillier's, methodology as close as a layman can get i reckon, and
as you say the Visuals, really are the be and end all, one can do. whatever
pedigree analysis methodology one aspires to, is really designed, to whet ones
appetite for more knowledge on the subject in question, as long as the
methodology is sound, the subject usually warrants the close inspection, and
perusal of available veterinary records. This is very obvious in the excellent
Video "A Game of Chess with Nature" put out by aga khan studs, where
Himself and close advisors ( increasingly Mme Germaine Vuillier, who was his
principal advisor till he day she died) like clockwork, inspecting and making
notes on the progress of the stock, from Birth to sale day or the Racetrack,
illustrate that a systematic approach to most tasks usually delivers
desired outcomes. As an aside, it is obvious that when inspecting their foals,
their Farrier is always in attendance, making notes about EVERY Foal, and how
it walks and stands, for further references for later in life, corrective
Farriery is always available to help nature do it's work, especially working
with young supple bones, and as always, everything takes time and patience,
which usually pays off in the end. The Aga Khan studs are renowned for the
quality, and Bone of their stock, which is what we try to emulate |
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 12:28pm |
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not sure what happens with the formatting my end of the deal, it usually is ok , but evcery now and then very untidy formatting LIKE ABOVE...Gaye??
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 1:07pm |
Like your Anamoe Shawy
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 2:42pm |
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These words from Mme Germaine Vuillier, reinforce your comments too Glencoe "Germaine Vuillier, the influential breeding manager for the Aga Khan's stables, formulated a theory that likened the Thoroughbred to a mechanical engine, where specific physical attributes acted as the "motor" and "mechanism":
Vuillier’s approach was rooted in a scientific, genealogical method often referred to as the Vuillier Dosage System. This system aimed to create "dosage" levels of certain foundation sires (primarily Herod) to achieve a perfect balance in both the "motor" and the "mechanism" of the offspring " (google) the following is a wee bit off topic, but maintains the general thrust of the latter part of this thread " Herod is a central figure in modern DNA research and genetic conjecture concerning Thoroughbred breeding, both for his historical influence and for specific recent scientific findings:
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 3:40pm |
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much appreciated information Take 2
Does the very informative still post on any global breeding websites ? Anybody know?
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 3:41pm |
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Pedigree supposedly accounts for approx 37% of a horses racetrack performance
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