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Can someone tell me, why this guy didn't sell? Were his xrays or scope off? 
He is a half to Artorius...
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Not an athletic type for mine, though as you suggest almost certainly scope or X-Ray alerts.
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Has he a club foot on front offside? 
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i hope people dont misconstrue what i highlighted above about conformational faults. All I was doing is illustrating that a lot of faults self correct or the body compensates to accommodate, not by a long stretch saying i would accept as such.
re the prices, in the 4 or 5 years i have been doing this, the better selections have been the cheaper ones, under if not well under 100k
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i write my stuff out on word and then cut and paste, whats going on when the formatting ends up different on here than on word?
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 I give up  try and write something here and get timed out, write it on word get formatting wrong, cut and paste off google, which is better than making a dick of oneself when if something wrong just blame google lol , formatting wrong                                                                                                                            Day 3 Lot No. Optimum Distance G1/Group Potential Comments / Synopsis
Lot 592 1600–2000m G1Potential High                                                                                 Dam dosage just above ideal but strong sire and balanced triad; index suggests classic distance. Good overall G1 prospects.
644 1400–1800m  G1Potential High                                                                                               Horse and dam dosage both within ideal range, triad indicates speed and stamina. G1 potential is strong.
549 1600m   G1 Potential   High                                                                                               All dosage values well below thresholds, exceptional dam dosage, balanced triad; suited for G1 mile races.
561 1600–2000m   G1Potential Very High                                                                                       Horse and dam dosage both desirable; triad profile supports versatility. Strong G1 credentials.
470 1400m G1 Potential  High                                                                                               Dam dosage slightly over ideal, but horse and sire dosage strong; triad supports speed. Good G1 chance.
663 1600–1800m G1Potential High                                                                                       Dam dosage slightly high, but horse is versatile and triad supports stamina. G1 potential solid.
655 1800m  G1Potential Good                                                                                                       Dosage values are competitive, triad balanced. Slightly higher dam dosage reduces rating.
500 1800–2000m G1 Potential Good                                                                                       Dosage values above optimal but triad and index indicate classic distance aptitude. Moderate G1 hopes.
626 2000m G1Potential  Good                                                                                             Horse dosage high, dam above threshold, but triad versatile. Possible G1 potential at longer trips.



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Originally posted by Take2 Take2 wrote:

i hope people dont misconstrue what i highlighted above about conformational faults. All I was doing is illustrating that a lot of faults self correct or the body compensates to accommodate, not by a long stretch saying i would accept as such.


I found it fascinating, T2! There’s a lot of stuff there I didn’t know about or had forgotten.
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Your defects/mechanics points were especially interesting!

I could read/listen to experts talk conformation all day - I’m such a nerd Embarrassed
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People forget heaps of stuff BP, like, Tulloch, who wasnt a real pinup boy either , and seattle slew                    Seattle Slew
  • Turned-Out Hoof: Seattle Slew was known for being splay-footed, specifically on his right front leg.
  • Gait: This caused a notable "paddled" or turned-out look from the knee down, which contributed to him being dismissed by many buyers as an "ugly" yearling.
  • Legacy: Despite this, the fault did not affect his athleticism or fluidity, as he became the first undefeated Triple Crown winner in history. 

Tulloch

  • Sway Back: Tulloch’s most famous physical defect was a pronounced sway back (also called a "swamp back").
  • Other Faults: He was also described as having imperfect hocks, heavy shoulders, and a generally "weedy" or "plain" appearance as a yearling.
  • Legacy: Similar to Seattle Slew, these visual flaws were disregarded by legendary trainer T.J. Smith, and Tulloch went on to become one of the greatest Australian racehorses of the 20th century.
                                                    



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yes if I were in the position to purchase it would be worthy info for selection.
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Anyone see the lot,,about 442 or close abouts, entered by Sledmere, by Pinatubo ( cant spell it ? ).
What was wrong with it ?   
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Thought Lot 198 (Toronado - Crystal Rock) was a top purchase at just $90k.  


Lovely SC, great looking filly
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Anyone see the lot,,about 442 or close abouts, entered by Sledmere, by Pinatubo ( cant spell it ? ).
What was wrong with it ?   

must be a different lot number AA, 442 sold for $550,000, but didn't excite me.
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Originally posted by QuizAbout QuizAbout wrote:

Can someone tell me, why this guy didn't sell? Were his xrays or scope off? 
He is a half to Artorius...


Agree with SC, steep shoulder and short upper arm too, he uses his hind end well in the walk all the same. plain type didn't see a club foot there Sister, but Xrays etc might tell the story
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Originally posted by GAJ GAJ wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Anyone see the lot,,about 442 or close abouts, entered by Sledmere, by Pinatubo ( cant spell it ? ).
What was wrong with it ?   

must be a different lot number AA, 442 sold for $550,000, but didn't excite me.

Yeah, not sure about the lot number.  Was in the pub and trying with not much luck to watch,  But somewhere in the 440s .  
Should go look shouldnt I.  
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443
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No don’t look just have another beer 🍺 😊
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For acacia - Lindsay Park bought that filly (443) and already syndicating her:


Probably not much wrong with her, just the sire is not 'hot' right now.
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Thanks VSP.  I thought she was nice but geez she was a big girl Smile

412 is going to Bjorn Baker .
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MM day 4                                                                                                             Lot No.   Optimum Distance (m)                G1/Group Potential (10)         Comments / Synopsis

974       1200–1400      9.5        Outstanding pedigree balance: Vuillier dosage  is well within G1-optimised thresholds, suggesting explosive speed and early maturity. Pedigree profile shows closing speed and versatility, and Pedigree Index supports sprint/mile distances. . Highly recommended for elite Group racing.

                                               

966       1400–1600      9             Dosage and profile values indicate a strong stamina/speed blend, with a dam dosage below optimum maximising G1 strike rate. Pedigree Index leans towards classic mile races. Sire line known for consistent G1 performers.

                                               

951       1200–1600      8.8        Pedigree features a sire with exceptional Group-winning record, and Pedigree profile  numbers suggest adaptability. Dosage profile supports both sprint and middle-distance potential. Dam dosage slightly above ideal but compensated by strong family speed.

                                               

                                               

936       1600–2000      8.7        Classic distance pedigree with dosage and Pedigree profile values favouring stamina. Pedigree Index points to late-season G1 targets. Dam line consistently produces black-type runners.

                                               

921       1200–1400      8.5        Dosage values indicate precocity and speed, Pedigree profile  balanced for sprinting. Sire and dam both have G1-winning progeny. Pedigree Index confirms optimum for fast-run Group races.

                                               

910       1400–1600      8.3        Horse and dam dosage both in G1-favourable range. Pedigree profile numbers suggest strong closing ability. Pedigree Index matches with G1 mile races. Sire line offers proven class.

                                               

896       1600–2000      8.2        Dosage leans to stamina, ideal for classic distances. Dam dosage 520, supporting G1 potential. Pedigree profile indicates versatility and resilience.

                                               

                                               

897       1400–1600      8.1        Sire and dam both bring speed and stamina. Dosage and

Pedigree profile values balanced, though dam dosage slightly above optimum. Pedigree Index supports middle-distance G1 ambitions.

                                               

880       1200–1400      8             Dosage profile ideal for sprinting, Pedigree profile numbers show early speed. Sire has produced G1-winning sprinters. Pedigree Index confirms best at fast-run races.

                                               

881       1200–1600      7.8        Dam dosage below 550, horse dosage slightly above optimal but strong speed pedigree. Pedigree profile shows adaptability. Pedigree Index supports both sprint and mile.

                                               

872       1400–1600      7.7        Dosage and Pedigree profile balanced for Group racing, with stamina edge. Dam line known for toughness, Pedigree Index confirms best at mile.

                                               

878       1400–1800      7.6        Dosage and Pedigree profile slightly favours stamina. Dam’s pedigree brings resilience, Pedigree Index best for middle distances.

                                               

814       1200–1400      7.5        Dosage profile in sprint range, Pedigree profile  numbers show early speed. Dam dosage a touch high but family produces fast types.

                                               

807       1600–2000      7.3        Stamina-focused dosage and profile, with dam line producing multiple black-type winners. Pedigree Index supports classic distances.

                                               

799       1400–1600      7.2        Dosage and Profile balanced for versatility. Sire and dam lines consistent at Group level. Pedigree Index supports mile races.

                                               

787       1200–1400      7             Dosage values ideal for sprinting, Pedigree profile shows precocity. Sire line proven for G1 sprint success.                                            

786       1400–1600      6.9        Dam dosage slightly above optimal, but dosage and Pedigree profile indicate speed. Pedigree Index supports sprint/mile races.

785       1600–2000      6.8        Stamina-focused dosage and profile, dam line offers resilience. Pedigree Index favours classic distance



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Take2 do you mind doing a favour for a mate by providing a summary for Lot 964 please.  Smile
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I never did any fillies, apart from ones of interest
but just for yo SC i will do my best
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I wish they would put Odeum to The Autumn Sun!   I keep finding mares I like but not sure they went to the stallion which would be their best mate.  Still I guess I Am Invincible is getting on and they wanted to visit him.
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Actually Odeum to Anamoe would be interesting also.
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Breeding for the market you'd think.

At least Extreme Choice like TAS brings in Redoute's.
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Take2 do you mind doing a favour for a mate by providing a summary for Lot 964 please.  Smile

Lot 964 rates 7/10

 

Lot 964

1200m – 1400m

Moderate

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  Balanced dosage and Pedigree profile suggest  versatility; index indicates strong sprinting bias, with potential for quality metropolitan class but G1 capability not assured.


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Lot 964 combines strong sprinting genetics from Wandabaa and Wandjina with the added versatility and proven class from Tagaloa. Dosage and pedigree profiles present a well-balanced pedigree, favouring sprint distances between 1000m and 1400m but with enough stamina influence to attempt middle distance races. The index analysis highlights a pronounced speed bias, particularly from the dam line, and points towards metropolitan and group-level potential, though G1 capability is not guaranteed based solely on these metrics. Overall, the mating rates a solid 7 out of 10 for producing a competitive filly with commercial appeal and prospects for black-type performances, especially over sprint trips. Recommended for buyers seeking precocity and speed with a touch of versatility.
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Thanks young fella, and very close to my own thinking particularly distance probability.
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I wish they would put Odeum to The Autumn Sun!   I keep finding mares I like but not sure they went to the stallion which would be their best mate.  Still I guess I Am Invincible is getting on and they wanted to visit him.
Good call on TAS for odeum, he and Anamoe, both with Odeum with me look like the same distance aptitudes, with TAS having more speed, especially closing speed, not by much, but enuff to make a difference
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hangin out to see what 689 brings, if hes still in
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Yes I often find a horse I like because of the dam and regret the sire!  And i love I am Invincible but they are pure speed.  One went through the sales by Home Affairs out of the Emancipation line and my immediate thought was gee the best are milers but HA is pure speed.  Wonder if the mare line can get the foal to go further!

That said who would of thought an Extreme Choice would win the Melbourne Cup.  So things happen sometimes.
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