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    Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 3:03pm
This on is for Djebel.  I love the pedigree already but only a foal on breednet.  Will it be a miler or a stayer?

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Grunt (NZ)
Bay or brown 2014		O'Reilly
Brown 1993		Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983		Try My Best
Bay 1975		Northern Dancer
Sex Appeal		1961
1970		2-d
8-f
Mill Princess
Bay 1977		Mill Reef
Irish Lass		1968
1962		22-d
8-c
Courtza
Bay 1986		Pompeii Court
Bay 1977		Tell
Port Damascus		1966
1971		2-f
1-p
Hunza
Brown 1970		Pakistan
Chatty Lady		1958
1961		6-d
13-b
Ruqqaya
Bay 2005		Van Nistelrooy
Chestnut 2000		Storm Cat
Bay or brown 1983		Storm Bird
Terlingua		1978
1976		4-j
8-c
Halory
Chestnut 1984		Halo
Cold Reply		1969
1972		2-d
4-g
Sayyida
Bay 2000		Zabeel
Bay 1986		Sir Tristram
Lady Giselle		1971
1982		6-e
16-c
Eastern Princess
Bay 1991		Pompeii Court
Benazir		1977
1984		1-p
13-b
Rise Over Cloud (IRE)
Bay 2015		Raven's Pass
Chestnut 2005		Elusive Quality
Bay 1993		Gone West
Bay 1984		Mr Prospector
Secrettame		1970
1978		13-c
2-f
Touch of Greatness
Bay 1986		Hero's Honor
Ivory Wand		1980
1973		1-s
13-c
Ascutney
Bay or brown 1994		Lord at War
Chestnut 1980		General
Luna de Miel		1974
1974		1-w
19-c
Right Word
Bay 1982		Verbatim
Oratorio		1965
1974		10-d
17-b
Mayenne
Bay or brown 1994		Nureyev
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Bay 1961		Nearctic
Natalma		1954
1957		14-c
2-d
Special
Bay 1969		Forli
Thong		1963
1964		3-b
5-h
Detroit
Bay 1977		Riverman
Bay 1969		Never Bend
River Lady		1960
1963		19-b
10-a
Derna
Bay 1961		Sunny Boy
Miss Barberie		1944
1950		16-a
16-c
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 4m Pompeii Court4f,5f x
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Interesting pedigree. The grand dam is a three quarter sister to lady Giselle the dam of zabeel
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I would say miler.

That said Grunt should have stayed 2000m.

Ravens Pass got 2000m.

Nureyev is pure class.

The family is ultimately 2000 - 2400m.

If he shows speed/class and Waller has him he will be lucky to get to see a mile.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

I would say miler.

That said Grunt should have stayed 2000m.

Ravens Pass got 2000m.

Nureyev is pure class.

The family is ultimately 2000 - 2400m.

If he shows speed/class and Waller has him he will be lucky to get to see a mile.
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Yes Kavg I noticed that at the time I looked at the pedigree.  The dam didn't win so we have to hope the speed Grunt had comes into play but as I said interesting pedigree.  I hope Grunt does well as he also has a very interesting class packed pedigree which should pretty well cover all those Danehill line mares out there.  Just funny that this one doesn't apply to that but it just shows how many different lines he could click with.
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Just noticed something else, the best from sayyida, the grand dam of grunt was Ocean Park. Ocean was from thorn park. Thorn park was from spinning world. Spinning world is by Nureyev over riverman as is Mayenne the grand dam of this foal who also brings in the dam line of zabeel.
There is also a 6x6 cross of secretariat. Overall looks like a fairly well thought out mating.
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Yes I think more than just lets go here.  Someones gone looking for something and Grunt had that something.  Now we just have to hope the right genes came across!  Wouldn't breeding great horses be easy if that was a given to a good pedigree.
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