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Hamas followed the blueprint with shocking precision. The document called for a barrage of rockets at the outset of the attack, drones to knock out the security cameras and automated machine guns along the border, and gunmen to pour into Israel en masse in paragliders, on motorcycles and on foot — all of which happened on Oct. 7.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Israeli officials obtained Hamas’s battle plan for the Oct. 7 terrorist attack more than a year before it happened, documents, emails and interviews show. But Israeli military and intelligence officials dismissed the plan as aspirational, considering it too difficult for Hamas to carry out.

The approximately 40-page document, which the Israeli authorities code-named “Jericho Wall,” outlined, point by point, exactly the kind of devastating invasion that led to the deaths of about 1,200 people.

The translated document, which was reviewed by The New York Times, did not set a date for the attack, but described a methodical assault designed to overwhelm the fortifications around the Gaza Strip, take over Israeli cities and storm key military bases, including a division headquarters.


Riiiiiiiiiight so its Israel's fault they were attacked. Confused

So what, they should have stood at the borders lined up waiting at attention for the attacks for. year or more ?

A plan to attack is nothing without a date..


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Bombing has resumed. Bad luck for the remaining 130 hostages and their families.
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Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.

Israeli officials obtained Hamas’s battle plan for the Oct. 7 terrorist attack more than a year before it happened, documents, emails and interviews show. But Israeli military and intelligence officials dismissed the plan as aspirational, considering it too difficult for Hamas to carry out.

The approximately 40-page document, which the Israeli authorities code-named “Jericho Wall,” outlined, point by point, exactly the kind of devastating invasion that led to the deaths of about 1,200 people.

The translated document, which was reviewed by The New York Times, did not set a date for the attack, but described a methodical assault designed to overwhelm the fortifications around the Gaza Strip, take over Israeli cities and storm key military bases, including a division headquarters.

Hamas followed the blueprint with shocking precision. The document called for a barrage of rockets at the outset of the attack, drones to knock out the security cameras and automated machine guns along the border, and gunmen to pour into Israel en masse in paragliders, on motorcycles and on foot — all of which happened on Oct. 7.

The plan also included details about the location and size of Israeli military forces, communication hubs and other sensitive information, raising questions about how Hamas gathered its intelligence and whether there were leaks inside the Israeli security establishment.

The document circulated widely among Israeli military and intelligence leaders, but experts determined that an attack of that scale and ambition was beyond Hamas’s capabilities, according to documents and officials. It is unclear whether Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu or other top political leaders saw the document, as well. more...

 


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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

So? What’s your point?
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When you get the detailed battle plan of your enemy/partner, best not to ignore it.LOL F#cking dumb questions. What do you think the point is?LOL
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Just more dumb finger pointing deflection from you.

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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

When you get the detailed battle plan of your enemy/partner, best not to ignore it.LOL F#cking dumb questions. What do you think the point is?LOL


Especially if you are making exactly the kind of provocations you know are guaranteed to elicit a response.

Netanyahu Ignored All the Warnings and Looming Threats. He's Primarily Responsible for the Calamity

Instead of dealing with the clear warnings he was given, the Israeli prime minister focused on crushing democracy, establishing his status as the supreme ruler and transferring resources to the ultra-Orthodox and the settlements

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-22/ty-article/.premium/netanyahu-ignored-all-the-warnings-and-pushed-the-palestinians-into-confrontation/0000018b-f398-d117-abcf-f7ffdb040000


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Yes he’s responsible, he raped and murdered alll those people on 7/10

Keep justifying it
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What's with your obsession with Mr Yahoo, Tlaz? It's getting PT- level weird. The bloke is just one small momentary part of a hugely complex problem going back centuries.
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How many Hamas terrorists have been killed so far in these bombings?

That is Netanyahu's objective isn't it?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

How many Hamas terrorists have been killed so far in these bombings?

That is Netanyahu's objective isn't it?

I’m sure you have the answer stashed somewhere 

I read that the Hamas force is some 40,000 +. I wonder where they are “stationed” in Garza.
Do they  have barracks ala Holsworthy Lamp
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

What's with your obsession with Mr Yahoo, Tlaz? It's getting PT- level weird. The bloke is just one small momentary part of a hugely complex problem going back centuries.

It is very odd. Hundreds of years of fight, 7/10 and its all yahoos faultLOL
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I have no idea how many have been killed, nor does anyone. Do you just keep bombing till you reckon you have killed enough people to satisfy the extremists?
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"It is very odd."

It's very odd that you think it's very odd. Clearly you aren't reading my posts.Wink
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Oh I’ve read the litany of posts blaming Netanyahu and sweet FA the other way.
That’s cool, just own it 

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Hama's are a terrorist Salafist group fighting a guerilla war, committed to the destruction of Israel and, like their partner Bibi, violently opposed to a two state solution. What more do you need to know?Confused
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Hama's are a terrorist Salafist group fighting a guerilla war, committed to the destruction of Israel

And that's all you need to know. 

Its the Palestinians who are being stubborn and want war, otherwise they would have been smart and moved into a two state solution long ago. If they don't know by now, keep doing what they doing and nothing changes, then that's not very smart is it ? It's not saying let's make peace and do everything we can for our children is it ? 

Keep doing the same thing over and over again and moan about deaths, I mean its the definition of madness/stupidity.



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